2 Mice Carrying Plague Disappear From New Jersey Lab

[carla]

They seem to think this is nothing to worry about .

FOXNews.com - 2 Mice Carrying Plague Disappear From New Jersey Lab, FBI Says No Public Health Risk - Health News | Current Health News | Medical News

[Kritters]

Carls....
I started reading that and had to stop before my brain blew a gasket. How could the FBI determine it is nothing to worry about? When did the FBI get a degree in parasitology or infectious diseases? Well...anyone knows mice are...meek! LOL....And it isn't the first time disease ridden mice have escaped from the New Jersey lab. Oooohhhh....that makes me feel better. It took the UMDMJ 7 weeks to report the missing bag. Why are they experimenting with the plague anyway? So in 2005 three blind...I mean live mice were missing from their cages, BUT...officials said they believed the mice had died. I guess they had a mice seance that night to conjure Minni and Mickey. Do people actuall read these articles and yawn and turn the page, believing THEY know what they're doing and we don't have to worry?

Unbelievable. Where is the outrage? Where is the questioning? People are just too compacent passing the buck.

Kritts

[carla]

I hope you have a spare gasket Kritters .

Exposure to accumulations of a potential irritant known as trichloramine likely caused eye and breathing problems reported by hundreds of visitors to an indoor Ohio water park, according to a federal report released Thursday.Insufficient air movement and distribution likely led airborne trichloramine to collect at the park at Great Wolf Lodge near Cincinnati, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported in its Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report. The park had 665 complaints of eye and respiratory irritation by visitors and lifeguards in 2007.Chloramines are created from the reaction between chlorine in the water and nitrogen-containing sweat and urine from swimmers. The report says trichloramine is the main chloramine found above chlorinated water surfaces and has been suspected as the cause of outbreaks of eye and respiratory irritation."It was basically what we thought, and once they made their changes to the ventilation system, the problem went away," Collins said.

Went away where? It will just be effecting people slower so they won't be able to connect their illness to the park.

Chemical likely cause of Ohio water park illnesses - MSNBC Wire Services - msnbc.com

[carla]

Say goodbye to your gaskets,Guys .Check out the Anthrax info . Exactly what Leornard Horowitz said happened.

He revealed in the New York Times that the Anthrax was coming from a Government Lab.
After weeks of Anthrax scares in the Media it completely stopped after the NYT s story.
This researcher who took the blame was literally hounded to death.

The F.B.I. has released evidence of Dr. Ivins’s mental problems and of a genetic link between the mailed anthrax and a supply of the bacteria in his laboratory. But many of Dr. Ivins’s former colleagues at the Army institute have said they are not convinced that he mailed the letters.

Wakey Wakey !!!!

That lawsuit, filed in 2003 and delayed by the government’s unsuccessful efforts to have it dismissed

WASHINGTON — Army officials have suspended most research involving dangerous germs at the biodefense laboratory at Fort Detrick, Md., which the F.B.I. has linked to the anthrax attacks of 2001, after discovering that some pathogens stored there were not listed in a laboratory database.
The suspension, which began Friday and could last three months, is intended to allow a complete inventory of hazardous bacteria, viruses and toxins stored in refrigerators, freezers and cabinets in the facility, the Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases.
The inventory was ordered by the institute’s commander, Col. John P. Skvorak, after officials found that the database of specimens was incomplete. In a memorandum to employees last week, Colonel Skvorak said there was a high probability that some germs and toxins in storage were not in the database.
Rules for keeping track of pathogens were tightened after the 2001 anthrax letters, which killed five people. But pressure to improve recordkeeping and security at the Army institute intensified six months ago after the suicide of Bruce E. Ivins, a veteran anthrax researcher, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s announcement that prosecutors had been preparing to charge Dr. Ivins with making the deadly anthrax powder in his laboratory there.
A spokesman for the institute, Caree Vander Linden, said an earlier review had located all the germ samples listed in the database. But she said some “historical samples” in institute freezers were not in the database, and the new inventory was intended to identify them so they could be recorded and preserved, or destroyed if they no longer had scientific value.
One scientist, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to comment, said samples from completed projects were not always destroyed, and departing scientists sometimes left behind vials whose contents were unknown to colleagues. He said the Army’s recordkeeping and security were imperfect but better than procedures at most universities, where research on biological pathogens has expanded rapidly since 2001.
The suspension will interrupt dozens of research projects at the institute, whose task is to develop vaccines, drugs and other measures to protect American troops from germ attacks and disease outbreaks. Ms. Vander Linden said some critical experiments involving animals — often used to test vaccines and drugs — would not be halted.
News of the suspension, first reported Monday by the Science magazine blog ScienceInsider, comes as the Justice Department has been interviewing scientists at the Army institute to prepare the government’s legal defense against a lawsuit filed by the family of Robert Stevens, the Florida tabloid photography editor who was the first to die in the 2001 letter attacks.
That lawsuit, filed in 2003 and delayed by the government’s unsuccessful efforts to have it dismissed, accuses officials of failing to assure that anthrax bacteria at Fort Detrick and other government laboratories were securely stored. Dr. Ivins was not suspected in the attacks at that time, but the F.B.I.’s conclusion last year added new weight to the lawsuit’s claims.
+The F.B.I. has asked the National Academy of Sciences to convene a panel of experts to review its scientific work on the case, and the bureau and academy are completing a contract for the review, said an academy spokesman, William Kearney.
The anthrax case has underscored the threat of biological attack by biodefense insiders like Dr. Ivins, who have access to pathogens and the expertise to work with them.
The number of such researchers has grown rapidly since 2001, when the anthrax letters set off a spending boom on biodefense that led to a rapid addition of laboratories working on potential bioweapons, notably anthrax.
Before 2001, only a few dozen such facilities worked with anthrax. Today, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has registered 219 laboratories to do so, said an agency spokesman, Von Roebuck. He said 10,474 people had been cleared to work with dangerous pathogens and toxins nationwide after background checks by the Justice Department.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/10/wa...ms.html?ref=us

[Sadsack]

Just how is it that dead and frozen mice "escape", anyway? That plague-chit must be pretty good stuff!!!
Whenever the FBI gets involved, I always feel so much safer after their proclamations that there is nothing to worry about. I need an FBI teddy bear to sleep with.
Did anyone read the article about the 40 Al-Qaida terrorists died in one of their camps after messing with plague? About a month ago, I think.
SS

[tcmgpt13]

Just in case others (besides me) missed this article about Al-Qaeda and the plague (UK paper which first reported this story):

Al-Qaeda terrorists killed by Black Death after the killer bug also known as the plague sweeps through a training camp | The Sun |News

Sounds like when it hit they scurried out of those caves and headed for the hills and beyond. I wonder if the civilians near this camp will become sick?

"The extremists supporting madman Osama bin Laden went to Bejaia and Jijel provinces — hoping the plague did not go with them."

This really could backfire on the organization and those supporting them by spreading a serious disease among their own population. Perhaps they will think twice about doing this any time soon. That is if there is a next time. I am praying absolute fear has quelled this particular foray into bio-terrorism for a long, long time.

A US version of the same story:

Washington Times - Al Qaeda bungles arms experiment

[carla]

LOL Who do you think the Extremist are TC? Donald Rumsfield maybe?

[carla]

I only ask because he provided Sadam with his.
U.S. And Iraq Go Way Back, Report: Documents Show Cozy Relationship During Iran-Iraq War - CBS News

[tcmgpt13]

Isn't that kind of old news? The changing tides of US involvement with various folks in the Middle East seems rather old hat. World affairs and loyalties which shift from friend to foe and back again are like an extended chess game. Always have been. For centuries. Too bad the Americans have never been as good at it as the English. It seems many see the West, especially the US and England, as countries which qualify as terrorist organizations. Well, since England has such a high percentage of Muslims from one country or another, then I guess at least some will not mind if these men of "peace" practice making bio-weapons in the areas where no English person dares to enter for fear of great bodily harm. Nothing in life is perfect and much is not right, all over the world. People can choose to try to change what they do not like or become excessively angry and take that out on others. Personally I like to do what I can and leave the rest to God.

[carla]

It isn't old news. It is proof that they lie and set things up.
I'm not being disrespectful to your Government. We are already a one world government. They all work together to con us all.
They have destroyed our economies with bailouts and Freedom of speech.
Not to mention Health care and the food we eat.
Anyone who is brave enough to face up to it can see it is blindingly obvious.