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[Kritters]

Keavy,

I'm a-lovin' your knowledge of all of this.

Kritts

[Keavy]

Yeah Well......

I'm borderline OCD, and I have a ludicrous energy level, and I can read fast, really fast, and remember almost everything. So i get attached to a subject, it consunes me, and I can study it and all for a couple months before I get bored with it, I sleep about 3 or 4 hours a night.
It's a blessing and curse, I know more stuff about nothing useful than anyone I know.

I looked in search for a thread on pine sol or pine oil, but oil is too common, and I didn't see what I was going to add, so here it is.

Have you ever tried Pine sol Topically? I use it to give my dogs flea baths, and in a steam cleaner yo kill them in the carpet. It works great, and the more pine oil it has, the better it works, but Pine Sol kills fleas in a few minutes.
It has decent skin penetration, because you can taste it if you get enough on you. You could also mix it down with a carrier oil.

Grapeseed oil works really well and it's not real costly. Sweet Bay and Walmart have it here. It is really light and is readily absorbed by the skin.
It's not like DSMO or anything, but it is a good carrier oil.

[Kritters]

I envy you, Keavy. I need at least 8 hours per night and now I usually have to supplement with a short nap. I'd love to only need 3-4 hours of sleep.

I've been interested in the pine tree for a long time. And the birch tree. I think an awesome supplement called picnogenol (sp?) comes from one of them. The pine tree has outstanding medicinal qualities. I believe I read it is used in a cancer treatment (of course big pharma took the tree bark and combined with something else to get a patent on it.

My Great Aunt Kay used to use Pinesol for all cleaning and I use it as well. She also gave me cod liver oil, told me to eat the skin of all fruits and veggies, gave me ENEMAS
:-(, and somehow knew so much of what we progressives are just now learning today.

Anyway, (back to topic) I never knew it also could be used topically. Hey, I wonder if people can incorporate with their shampoo to get rid of scalp lesions. Or alone.

Thanks for the info.

Kritts

[Keavy]

Originally Posted by Kritters

My Great Aunt Kay used to use Pinesol for all cleaning and I use it as well. She also gave me cod liver oil, told me to eat the skin of all fruits and veggies, gave me ENEMAS
:-(, and somehow knew so much of what we progressives are just now learning today.
Anyway, (back to topic) I never knew it also could be used topically. Hey, I wonder if people can incorporate with their shampoo to get rid of scalp lesions. Or alone.

Thanks for the info.

Kritts

Your Great Aunt Kay sounds like my grandmother.
I found out Pine Oil is used in Scabies Ointments and pesticides, as an aromatherapy agent. Scotch Pine seems to be the best type by opinion, but I am often at odds with popular opinion.

I really need to make a nice still. I have Pine, Grapefruit, Eucalyptus, Aloe and Oak readily handy, and could make essence oils, ethanol, and extracts.
(I wonder if Neem Trees will grow here?)

My silver making apparatus power supply gave out on me yesterday... sigh...
Anyone have a 10000 volt transformer laying around?
So my 100 ppm mild silver protein will have to wait.

Oh well, I hope everyone had a good weekend.

I will have a page set up soon where you can request samples and see what I have. I have been on Chemtrails all weekend..... wow....just wow.


Peace,
Keavs

[Kritters]

Keavy,

I'm telling my family and friends that if they see the chemtrail cross-pattern in the sky to take cover for at least a day if they can. I am beginning to feel like Chicken Little.

Kritts

[tcmgpt13]

I am posting this in case folks are thinking of trying Keavy's suggestions (not mine nor would I suggest using Pine Sol on the skin--it can be an irritant, there is no way to know all the ingredients which are not revealed to consumers, just the ones the manufacturer is required to divulge. plus many people have allergies to pine oil and lastly, it was made for cleaning not for using on the skin in large quantities):

Household Products Database - Health and Safety Information on Household Products

Product Information
Product Name: Pine Sol Brand Cleaner
Form: liquid
Product Category: Inside the Home » Bathroom & Kitchen » multipurpose cleaner
Inside the Home » Cleaner » multipurpose
Customer Service: 800-292-2200
Date Entered: 1997-12-04
Related Items: Products with similar usage in this database

Manufacturer
Manufacturer: Clorox Company, The
Address: 1221 Broadway
City: Oakland
State: CA
Zip Code: 94612
Telephone Number: 510-271-7000
Fax Number: 510-832-1463
Date Info Verified: 2009-03-06
Related Items: Products by this manufacturer
The following information (Health Effects, Handling/Disposal, and Ingredients) is taken from the product label and/or the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) prepared by the manufacturer. The National Library of Medicine does not test products nor does it evaluate information from the product label or the MSDS. (What is an MSDS?)

Health Effects
Enter text or highlight term...
Warnings: Eye and skin irritant. Harmful, if swallowed. Do not get in eyes. Avoid prolonged or repeated skin contact. For sensitive skin or prolonged use, wear gloves. Avoid contact with food. Eyes: Immediately rinse with water for 15 minutes. If irritation persists, call a physician. If swallowed: Do not induce vomiting. Drink a glassful of water. Immediately call a physician. Skin: Rinse with water. Keep out of reach of children. Do not use or mix with other household cleaners. Keep away from heat, sparks and open flame.
Acute Health Effects: From MSDS
May cause eye irritation. Do not get in eyes. Repeated or prolonged skin contact may cause irritation. For sensitive skin or prolonged use, wear gloves. Possible aspiration hazard if swallowed. Avoid contact with food.
There are no known medical conditions aggravated by exposure to this product.
Chronic Health Effects: From MSDS
None given
Carcinogenicity: From MSDS
The ingredients in this product are not identified as carcinogens or potential carcinogens by NTP, IARC and OSHA.
Health Rating: N
Flammability Rating: N
Reactivity Rating: N
HMIS Rating Scale: 0 = Minimal; 1 = Slight; 2 = Moderate; 3 = Serious; 4 = Severe;
N = No information provided by manufacturer; * = Chronic Health Hazard
MSDS Date: 1993-08-01

Handling/Disposal
Handling: From MSDS
Do not get in eyes. For sensitive skin or prolonged skin contact, wear gloves.
Disposal: From MSDS
Reclaim if possible; otherwise dispose in accordance with all applicable federal, state, and local regulations.

Ingredients from MSDS/Label
Chemical CAS No / Unique ID Percent
Surfactant(s) 000000-46-0 <10
Isopropanol 000067-63-0 <10
Pine oil 008002-09-3 19.9
Note: Brand names are trademarks of their respective holders.
Information is extracted from Consumer Product Information Database ©2001-2009 by DeLima Associates.

Originally Posted by Keavy

Yeah Well......

I'm borderline OCD, and I have a ludicrous energy level, and I can read fast, really fast, and remember almost everything. So i get attached to a subject, it consunes me, and I can study it and all for a couple months before I get bored with it, I sleep about 3 or 4 hours a night.
It's a blessing and curse, I know more stuff about nothing useful than anyone I know.

I looked in search for a thread on pine sol or pine oil, but oil is too common, and I didn't see what I was going to add, so here it is.

Have you ever tried Pine sol Topically? I use it to give my dogs flea baths, and in a steam cleaner yo kill them in the carpet. It works great, and the more pine oil it has, the better it works, but Pine Sol kills fleas in a few minutes.
It has decent skin penetration, because you can taste it if you get enough on you. You could also mix it down with a carrier oil.

Grapeseed oil works really well and it's not real costly. Sweet Bay and Walmart have it here. It is really light and is readily absorbed by the skin.
It's not like DSMO or anything, but it is a good carrier oil.

[Keavy]

Yes I should have said Pine Oil... (I do have a 14 yo dog that literally gets drenched in Pine sol once a week though). The vet says he's fine, but also advises against it.

They make it up to 80% for medical treatment for scabies, and you can find pine essence oils all over the place.

On that note, I wouldn't sell pine sol, it was a suggestion. I would use pine oil as an ingredient. It's not overly expensive, and I'm sure it goes a long way.
There are literally dozens of posts on here of people trying things that are plainly labeled for uses other than what they use them for.
GSE and H2O2 straight are 2 examples. Chlorine Dioxide (MMS) is a powerful bleaching agent for industrial water systems, but people drink it in high concentrations and apply it to skin. DMSO is not for human use. SOme people here megadose way above recommendations. I wouldn't suggest 1/2 of the self - treatments used here. I can post all the msds stuff on that and there are a lot of contradictions.

I mentioned at the meeting in Tampa.... that whatever this stuff is, it aint gonna die or give up easy. If they find a cure I'll bet you dollar to donuts it will be toxic to humans. Like Cancer or TB.... you basically have to poison the host to kill the parasite. I wish they would find a 100% natural product that would work, but I really think this stuff is geared for survival and propagation, and it's gonna be hard to kill. The medical research community has to get involved.

[tcmgpt13]

I agree Keavy, there are lots of suggestions here which have made me look askance and shake my head with horror. Having a lot of problems with drugs (even the ones I use now quite reluctantly in small doses) I back away from chemical use of all kinds. Chemicals are not kind to the body, but sometimes they are needed. Still I prefer those which have at least been tested on humans at some point (as long as I am not the guinea pig as is happening with the current swine flu shots, another head shaker since they are suggesting two shot for kids and I heard on the radio this am that they even have a spray version for the nose...something I would never use myself even IF tested on humans is the nasal version and quite frankly the additives to regular flu shots themselves scare me silly). Anyway, I have posted warnings about other products besides pine sol. I, myself, am allergic to pine oil as once I used an Edgar Cayce shampoo with that added to it and had a very itchy scalp to show for it for days. I also cannot have pine trees in the house at Christmas as I feel like I have a constant cold (I figured that out AFTER I reacted to the shampoo).

I think most of us have already concluded that whatever this is will not be easy to cure, having tried so many things or heard about people who have tried things which some of us would not try. So far, nothing has stopped this, perhaps because something in the environment and to which we are genetically susceptible is re-exposing us unceasingly. Food changes are major suspects as well as all the additional toxins found absolutely everywhere. I also lean towards some genetic quirk being behind all this and certainly some hormonal deficiency. This makes it all very hard to figure out, since there are so many variables to the disease itself and adding in more only raises the complexity. And yes, of course, we do need more medical research, but given the current climate in the world and in the US this will most likely be a long time coming. After all if you can get a few people off the planet more quickly why try to cure diseases or find new ways to tackle the ever growing "resistant to medications" parasites to which people are being exposed? Meanwhile make sure some of the harsher but perhaps more effective wormers and bug spray controls remain off the market so that more people will get sick (not just with morgellons but with malaria, sleeping sickness, chagas, leishmaniasis etc) and die more quickly. Nice neat package and it does not even require a war to produce the desired eugenics movement effect (and btw I am not a conspiracy theorist, but my views about some things do coincide with those who are). Anyway. Sorry to be cynicial, but as we wait for nearly two years for any results of the paltry and limited morgellons "study" which was farmed out by the CDC to Kaiser Permanente and AFIP...Don't think I need to say more to show the disgust I think most of us feel at this time.

[Sadsack]

Funny you should bring up eugenics, TCM - I just started a thread about the Malthusian dilemma:

World's Growing Population Poses a Malthusian Dilemma

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[Baraka Obam]

I used to have three dogs and they all lost their flees due to regular old dish soap, Simply it stops them from breathing RIGHT NOW!!! It like putting a spoonful of oil on water containing mosquito, they can not get air, when they come up to get a bit the little orfice is plugged with oil. WALA 10,000,000 mosquito do not live to bite you. I imagine that anything that will leave a slick on the top of water will work!!