Look at what's happening

[Kritters]

I saw it, I felt it, I participated to some degree....something is happening here. I think you will all agree that there is a very bad force taking place here on this forum and it is turning sister and brother against sister and brother. Mostly sister, from the % of who are contributors here.

It's really an ugly force and it's infiltrated amongst the best and kindest and most loving there is.

Please see this for what it is, and don't let it win.

One for all and all for one.

Kritts

[mmarsha]

Originally Posted by Kritters

I saw it, I felt it, I participated to some degree....something is happening here. I think you will all agree that there is a very bad force taking place here on this forum and it is turning sister and brother against sister and brother. Mostly sister, from the % of who are contributors here.

It's really an ugly force and it's infiltrated amongst the best and kindest and most loving there is.

Please see this for what it is, and don't let it win.

One for all and all for one.

Kritts

Hi Kritt's, I totally agree, as an old quote in the Holy Bible states a house divided will fall... End of quote, There is to much energy being used up on all our disagreements and yes I have participated too. If we do not come together as one on this site, and be a team, we are all lost, because we are the only hope we have. We are smart people and if everyone will just stop and think about your fellow sufferer and consider that we all are suffering and angry but not at each other . I will say it again turn the anger toward this disease and finding out who is responsible.... I for one want to find a cure as I know we all do. And I also want compensation for the hell I have been through and am still going through.
mm

[Kritters]

Thank you MMarsha!

So what do you say, folks? Are we a team? Can we forgive each other's words? It's not easy (believe me, I KNOW ) but we have to make a pact that if we have a problem we will try to find a nice way to say something about it, hopefully through pm. It's like any relationship....if you let things simmer, they are more apt to turn into a boil given more flaming...right? I'm going to try. If I can do it....ANYONE CAN!!!

p.s.....one suggestion is not to post anything POLITICAL.....we have to focus on this disease.

love to all,
Kritts

[carla]

Kritts ,I haven't noticed anything but I know people show up and distrupt the flow whenever we seem to be getting anywhere.
What we need to do is not let anyone s comments bother us.
Feel sorry for them instead of angry.

[Venetia]

Hi Kritters and all,

Interesting topic- and I would say as did Mmarsha- that it goes with the territory.

Going back to the days of the 'old board' and every board since, there are those with certain set ideas as to the 'cause' of the condition that will become very agressive (read: ugly) if you post something that does not fit into their theory.

I guess you would say that I'm used to the friction. I'm even used to the Hackers.
That is a very interesting story for another day....

This condition could cause major problems if all that is known is exposed. I would guess that is why all these boards are monitored so closely.

As to compensation- I wouldn't be counting on that- at all. We will be lucky to come out of this- at all, IMO. I would be happy to be wrong on that issue.

And yes, I agree that we should quit the Sabre-rattling and work together.

If we apply Dr Schallers' statement- that there are numerous causes of this condition- 8 - 20+ is what he stated, then we can find those various pathogens or sources and trace them and find protocols.

IOW- we can ALL be right- and find a potential pathogen that causes the condition
and a vector of same.

Since I can remember- the thought pattern created by the forums is that there is ONE pathogen and ONE Vector (ergo: 1 CURE). I think we are realizing that is not true and Schaller is correct.

Schaller's clues are in the books and papers he has penned. Lyme and it's various co-infections, Mold and more.

Check out his link- blood smears- Bartonella:

25 BOOKS 27 JOURNAL PUBLICATIONS CANADA LYME BABESIA FATIGUE CARE Alberta British Columbia Manitoba CANLYME MOLD Author of Babesia Text Offers Bartonella Images Connecticut Rhode Island New York Texas California

Of course Agrobacterium Ti is involved. It is in the seeds/food as well as in the water/air/soil- by means of remediation products for MTBE and other VOCs- such as the PM 1.

We can write emails and do something positive re: the MTBE- but first it would be smart to learn where the various remediation products are used and what type. I believe we would all be shocked and amazed at what is going on in that area and how it impacts us and this condition. It bears repeating that the PM 1 contains the
Agrobacterium ti. PM 1 is a product (bacterial) that remediates (breaks down) MTBE and other compounds.

As to insects- I would say ANY insect that bites or stings would be on the list of VECTORS.

And IMO, Radiation and Ionizing radiation factor into this condition in a big way as well.

-V-

[Kritters]

V~ Thanks so much for your input. You always have something positive to say and credible information to share!
Kritters

[Venetia]

Thanks Kritters! You are kind!

-V-

[Kritters]

Originally Posted by Venetia

Thanks Kritters! You are kind!

-V-

SOMETIMES, maybe And I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants to point that out.
xoKritts

[checha]

You may have heard the expression

IF YOU ALWAYS DO WHAT YOU'VE ALWAYS DONE

YOU'LL ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU'VE ALWAYS GOT.

We've got to step out of this box of posting volumes of unrelated scientific balderdash.

And having a microscope doesn't cure disease.

Think outside the box. Remember, imagination is greater than knowledge.

Let's use our heads. We do have one. I think some chit has been shaken up lately and I'm glad for it. People show their true colors under stress. There's some petty chit here...see it and rise above it.

I don't have all the time in the world here - I'm still suffering and I really would like this forum to be a collaborative effort and not just the meanderings of a few and their defensive buddies.

Take the perspective of this newbie if you dare.

Fire your leaders.

checha

[checha]

Venetia, I haven't been on this forum long enough to post a specific reply to you, but I have to say...I am very intelligent and educated and find your posts very hard to follow.

Can't you summarize what you're trying to say? Then present your citations and so on. I don't get the drift and I'm not daft.

What's the point of all the postings on Ralstonia, for example? It's a disease of potatoes, tomatoes, and related families. Could you just say in plain English for those of us who are more limited (I guess myself) - what does Ralstonia have to do with Morgellons?

And we're not trying to heal every disease known to mankind here. I know there are lots of diseases out there and ill-health caused by environmental toxins and GMO's, etc. That doesn't fix us.

checha