"I don't think it matters what it is" -Carla

[Nickthebuilder]

So, I state a very in depth opinion on my take of Clifford Carnicoms new work, and my opinion on why crazy fictional talk isn't doing anyone here any good, and I get a reply from a MODERATOR that says "I don't think it matters what it is .It is obviously an attack on our immune systems and the Government is keeping it covered up."

And what did that have anything to do with my complex post? You might as well have told me what you had for dinner?!?!?!?

I simply reflected on what Mark said by agreeing that YES, going off topic and in this case, killing hope of any scientific reasoning, in this situation by a MODERATOR, is useless!

So your moderator can bash me, justly, but when your moderator kills a post after telling everyone that what I just said doesn't matter, but when I ask her to post on another topic if all she wants to do is be negative and off topic, I get my topic locked? And she even has the guts to say "But I 've read your post at Lymebusters and you are a nasty peice of work." Well, I've posted at lymebusters about 3 dozen times and the reason I was banned is because of the same reason my topic was locked. Because everyone here wants to talk fiction, and the half of you would rather sit around and giggle while I'm trying to use my brain. Go read my posts and you will see that I was the one attacked for debate, even threatened by uneducated members for slander, for debating what they didn't want to debate, which is just flat out childish.

Do me a favor, kill my account because I'm done using my brain on any board where a moderator replies to my in depth analysis with "I don't think it matters what it is". Afford her respect you say? "She asked that you give Carnicom a chance to get back to you, so how about affording her the same courtesy" She gave me diddly doo. If I was here looking information or treatment, your "Moderator" would have just sent me to a deep state of depression with nothing but a bad attitude.

Thanks Carla, thanks for proving to me that this is a worthless waste of brainpower, because clearly, it doesn't matter what it involved and scientific minded people have no place here. Go giggle yourselves to wherever it is that you are trying to go.

[gigi22]

Hi Nick -

All I have to say is THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are symptom-free, and yet you didn't have to post anything to help any of us, but you did.

Your advice and reasoning has made the most sense to me thus far and your treatment is giving me my life back. You helped me realize what I need to be fighting here.. before all of this.. I had no idea what I was fighting and what my goal should be. I've done over 20 barley treatments so far and I cannot believe the improvement in my skin. There is now more of my REAL skin on my arms than fungus now. I am just so thrilled I could cry. As my skin improves, the activity and purging of stuff on my skin is also reducing.. and I'm spending more time on myself and not cleaning the environment as much.

I'm sorry for the way things are going here... I don't understand what is going on... we are all in this together and want answers.. we need to stick together.....


PS. Regarding Zinc Oxide in your "slowing growth" post on Lymebusters: I found that Desitin Maximum strength in the baby aisle of the pharmacy contains 40% zinc oxide!

[Kritters]

Gigi~

"....PS. Regarding Zinc Oxide in your "slowing growth" post on Lymebusters: I found that Desitin Maximum strength in the baby aisle of the pharmacy contains 40% zinc oxide!..."

Did you know that Desitin is actually an anti-fungal? I don't even think the PEDIATRICIANS know that!!! I posted a while back that my grandbaby had a horrific diaper rash which is actually candida overgrowth (the ped denied it was until it got so bad he had to admit it) After researching I found out about Desitin being an antifungal. It's so amazing they can't see the fungus through the Candida.

Kritts

[gigi22]

Kritts -

I wasn't sure.... my gyn did recommend it for yeast infection on the skin though..
so .. makes sense... !!!! thanks!!!

[carla]

What I originally put in my post was I don't think it matters what 'Nick the builder' thinks but I thought that was a bit rude.
I've was warned about you by two people who I can trust.
So I made a simple comment and you freaked.
Your reply proved to me they were right
If you had half the intelligence or wisdom Clifford Carmicon has you would have just ignored me or told me why it did matter.
.

[Tootsie]

you know Nick I really think its great youve tried to help people here and you had good intentions but when you throw insults out at people its pretty much what you will get back.

Carlas a great person who helps people all the time , its too bad you didnt see that .

[jonsi]

I was going to ask Nickthebuilder why he was dogging CC... maybe cuz cc is too busy to get back to Nick right away. I'm not interested in any of nick's responses, so I'm not asking any questions.

Nick, go on and leave us alone. Find another board where everyone agrees with you.

You are a stranger to me and bring havoc here.

Our moderator does good work. She is entitled to her opinions.

Nick a big bueno Adios to you, I'm going to ignore you from now on.
~jonsi

nickthebuilder wrote "thanks for proving to me that this is a worthless waste of brainpower, because clearly, it doesn't matter what it involved and scientific minded people have no place here. Go giggle yourselves to wherever it is that you are trying to go."

[carla]

Can anyone see the way this thread has been titled is to make it look like I am bad?
He forgot to say that I said it is getting well again that matters.
I have a nose for a rat and I think this Forum has a heavy infestation.

When someone cures themselves of a terrible disease they become loving and forgiving.
They know that anything is possible and develope an open mind.

Can you imagine being totally free of this nightmare tomorrow .
No fibers,no sores and no worry for your family.
The joy in your heart would be unbelieveable.
Would you waste another second of your life attacking anyone?
Especially other sick people who were still trapped in the nightmare.

I think what we are seeing is Morgellons Watch here .
Whats the point of Morgellons watch when no one goes there anymore.

[Jo]

Can you imagine being totally free of this nightmare tomorrow .
No fibers,no sores and no worry for your family.
The joy in your heart would be unbelieveable.
Would you waste another second of your life attacking anyone?
Especially other sick people who were still trapped in the nightmare.

True words, well said Carls

Jo xxxxxx

[Nickthebuilder]

Carla, if you feel that I was trying to attack you, then let me say I'm sorry if it came across that way, that was not my intent at all. I wasn't looking at your post as a moderator post and treating it with superiority, I was looking at it as the post of another individual who obviously didn't care what I had to say, and therefor did exactly what Mark had said, and degraded the logic of a hypothesis I was trying to get out there. Such a reply is an insult to legitimate research and yes, after you locked my thread, I was trying to point out that you didn't do anything but kill legitimate scientific theory. If you wanted me to debate it with you, you should have brought more to the table than blank negativity. I was here for fair scientific debate, not to repeat myself to individuals whose intent showed nothing more than despair and negativity.

I didn't do anything here to cause havok, that's a blunt lie. As gigi said, I didn't have to share the information I discovered, but I did, and it's more a matter of people not being able to grasp the scientific aspect of my theory and treatment rather than engaging in a legitimate debate. If I say that UFO fiction and nano fiction has no place here, it's because I understand the scientific process involved in identification of a pathogen and there is no proof whatsoever to justify those claims. If there was, I would be open to it, but nobody has offered any proof whatsoever and this only hurt the attempt for research that we all claim to be here for. My claims have legitimate backing, most of which is imaged on Carnicoms page, others which I have tested in my own lab, otherwise I wouldn't mention them because there is no room for nonsense here.

Jonsi, go ahead and ignore me, my information has reached all those who care to give it any credit and try the treatment, and I won't post anymore relevant scientific theory on any board from this point on. As for your other comments, you are the one fabricating lies and this is a fact. How interesting that you correspond with others from the other board, who also think I'm crazy. As far as I know, they never helped anyone with their undebated psuedoscience yet I have gotten several emails thanking me for the information I provided and informing me of how helpful it has been in treatment. Also, I never "dogged" Carnicom. If you actually took the time to read and understand what I wrote, you would see that I was being objective to his research, and clearly stated that even though I saw reason to be objective due to the sheer insanity of RBC's forming from mouth extractions (which carnicom even states himself several times, is "beyond current understanding") that I was nevertheless giving him the benefit of the doubt and therefor forming my theory based on this information in his recent study. That means, in simple terms (since you keep trying to lie and put words into my mouth) that I justified far more reasons that would back his personal interest in the truth rather than misinformation. You know, misinformation is a large part of why this "morgellons" pathogen is getting nowhere, so being objective is within the lines of any work done. I'm 100% sure that Carnicom would fully agree with that statement, and I'm willing to bet he is not the type of person who would want everyone to read his information without making sense of it first.

So, no more need to lie about what I did and didn't say, you clearly aren't reiterating what I wrote in full, but what you wanted to selectively pull out of it. As for Carnicom not speaking with me, I offered information to him out of my own will, he stated to me that it was very important that we talk about it further and that he would contact me if I couldn't reach him. I made an attempt, but the fact remains that I informed him in my writings of 100% of what my research revealed, so he can do what he will with that information, speaking to him would have been a nice gesture but otherwise just a formality.

Thanks again Gigi, you actually asked me questions through our conversations, and debated your doubts rather than just taking useless jabs at how horrible of a person I am. I'm very happy that I could have at least helped the few open minded individuals that I have met on these boards. To me, that really means that I did do all that I could, the others are just lost and aggressive in their actions and lack the ability to fair scientific debate. I never once took a shot at anyone who didn't deserve it, not here or on lymebusters, but I will not stand to waste my time proving very well detailed research only to be countered with empty attacks on my personal intentions. If you want to question me, and not my research, then I will move right on to calling out what you really are, because you never had interest in any form of research in the first place. Everyone had the chance to be civil, but instead many chose to question me rather than to debate and if that is all that those of you whom are guilty of such are here for, then this is nothing more than a fight board filled with random psuedoscience mixed in with the occasional bit of actual research. Either way, anyone here for logical information is in the middle of a big unorganized fight for nothing.

-Nick