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Old December 30th, 2008, 08:34 AM
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hi, how do you know its brain worm symptoms?
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The symptoms of worms in the brain are similar to a stroke, affecting the functioning of the part of the brain in which the worms have taken residence.

The research that I did a pretty long time ago cited cases with more than one worm in the brain. Not all people who ingest them end up with them in the brain. It is not totally understood how they land in the brain, due to the blood brain barrier being so hard to pass through and the larger the substance is, the less likely that this will happen. The body gets bacteria which do not end up in the brain, so something as large as a worm egg?

Anyway, the thought is that the ear is the access mode. The worm lays the eggs in the ear and the tiny eggs hatch and the creatures enter the brain. People might think of using a vibrator to keep them away from the ears if they suspect this might be the case until and if they can find a doctor to treat them.

The articles said they were considered inoperable (most people have more than one and those will lay eggs in the brain - eggs can lie dormant for years) because doctors end up chopping through the brain to get all of them.

The treatment that has cured only a third of the cases is albendazole, but fenbendazole also passes through the blood brain barrier and is a newer upgrade of albendazole.
Fenbendazole, daily, taken at one-fifth the dog dose. If anyone takes worm med, it would be a good idea to take a liver protectant, like milk thistle. Fenbendazole kills the eggs of many worms, and though I trust my memory which may be faulty, it peaks in the body in about 4 hours and leaves the body soon afterwards, so it can be taken daily. It also, over time, will incapacitate other worms. Taking it regularly will often leave a person with only the adult worms active and no hatching eggs or cysts. The adults will either die off on their own or be weakened, over time, by the drug.

Prazaquantal is typically used for tape worms, but I don't think it crosses the blood brain barrier to attack them in the brain.

If one has a worm that dies near the surface of the skin it can be biopsied, but usually nothing is found. THe worm dies in the duct leading from the blemish, so the blemish is just a reaction to the rotting substance and normal biopsies only get this.

Doctors and techs not experienced with constant work on worms will usually not detect them. The eggs can be smaller than a grain of sand. Others can be grouped in cysts.

People have taken fenbendazole for years at one fifth the dog dose(a 200 pound person would take the dose for a 40 pound dog, OR the equivilant, which is the horse dose for your body weight.

Fenbendazole, I have read, has been used on people in other countries. It is only sold for animals here and not available through a doctor. It is thought to be superior to albendazole, which is what doctors can prescribe here.

The albendazole that I have seen as treating these brain worms was prescribed for three months, taking a week off in between each month for liver recuperation.

Fenbendazole, taken daily, in the people I know, has not affected liver tests, with or without liver protecting herbs, like milk thistle.
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Old February 24th, 2010, 01:30 AM
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How would I be able to find a Doctor that will prescribe this medicine to me.. I have been looking for a Doctor that would prescribe me that medicine.
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Old February 24th, 2010, 01:43 AM
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Hi Lynne,

I know there are lists of doctors ppl here may be able to give you. But for what it is worth i have found that if I:

1. Go to a "bad" area of town - I live in LA so we have some pretty bad areas - at an Urgent Care clinic, and just present myself well, exactly describe the symptoms, and if it is something unusual like the worms I might bring them some printed research journal articles, or at least something to show them that I am legit, tehn I will get what I ask for.

2. go to high end, upscale - like Beverly Hills type - doctors. They will also give you whatever you ask.

It's sad it has to be like that. But since we are not able to get valid and accurate help we are forced in trying to figure this out alone.

On the other hand tho, if you can find a doctor - maybe from South America, holistic, etc who will take your symptoms seriously you will be MUCH SAFER! So many things can mimic the worms it is hard to knwo if that is what is causing this. If you are desperate tho, I certainly would think it is worth a try. But if you get a good doctor who will see this through, that IMO is the ideal. I would not mention the M word tho...
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Old February 24th, 2010, 01:57 AM
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How would I be able to find a Doctor that will prescribe this medicine to me.. I have been looking for a Doctor that would prescribe me that medicine.

Google Fenbendazole and find out symptoms which might require that treatment, then flutter your eyelashes at the doctor and tell him symptoms and a friend of yours had same and used Fenben....

It's prolly just that easy. BTW...it's an anti-fungal. Candida albicans is the fungus of notoriety, as far as I'm concerned.

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Old March 7th, 2010, 12:05 AM
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gives 'belly button lint' a whole new meaning, lol.. im not making fun, al this time we thought it was harmless..turns out it BUGS! next little kid that comes anywhere near me after sticking his fingers into his belly button, im running!! little kids are gross. glad mine is 23
well, i think ive come to the conclution that bugs will take over the world. one belly button at a time..hahaha..just kidding.. seriously though, im not even a 'germ a phobe' and im tripping..
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Old April 10th, 2010, 09:53 PM
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Hello goldengrain,I am interested in your post and was wondering if you still have the url's for the research or papers you got your info at? I have just been diagnosed with this and have read on Medline or med quest that some of human worm parasites can lay 1000.00's of eggs and guess what they look like blk and wht. triangle spec's... They can also cause the scabies TYPE ITCHING AND CRAWLING SENSATIONS, LESIONS, BACTERIA, FUNGAL INFECTIONS ect... Every symptom I have had. And as I have had many lesions on ear I am worried about them being in brain too. Here is one paper on them and I apologize for the length but people need to know this stuff. I wonder now if this hasn't been what it was all along With fungal infection to cover???? I appreciate any help you can give on those url's
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Do tapeworms affect human health?
Tapeworms are flat, segmented worms belonging to the class Cestoda. The life cycle of this type of parasite involves two hosts. The definitive host carries the adult form of the worm in their intestines. This adult holds itself in place, within the intestines of its host by suckers and/or hooks present on its head or scolex. An intermediate host carries the larval form, which lodges in various tissues of the body including muscle and brain. Secondary hosts are infected with the larval form by accident but do not pass on the larval form to the definitive host and are therefore a dead end for the parasite's life cycle. The definitive host normally acquires the infection by ingestion of meat from an infected intermediate host.

The smallest of the tapeworms using man as its definitive host is the dwarf tapeworm Hymenolepis species. Two species of Hymenolepis infect man H. nana and H. diminuta. These both use beetles as their intermediate host and man becomes infected by ingesting food or water contaminated by infected beetles. Rats also act as definitive hosts to H. species and beetles become infected by ingesting rat feces. H. nana is unusual in that, in addition to using beetles as an intermediate host, it can complete its life cycle within man without using an intermediate host.

Many cases of H. species infection are asymptomatic. A patient who develops symptoms may experience loss of appetite, nausea, diarrhea, weakness and abdominal pain.

Taenia saginata or the beef tapeworm uses cattle as intermediate hosts. Man becomes infected with T. saginata by eating raw or undercooked beef from an infected animal. Adult T. saginata worms grow to between 12 and 25 feet in length. As with the dwarf tapeworm asymptomatic infections with T. saginata are common. Symptomatic cases of beef tapeworm infection show a similar picture to Hymenolepis infections. In addition, the patient sometimes shows evidence of malnutrition and malabsorption.

The other Taenia species tapeworm that infects man is T. solium or the pork tapeworm. Spread by the ingesting of undercooked infected pork the adult worm grows from three to six feet in length. Symptoms of T. solium infection are similar to those of T. saginata. Asymptomatic cases are also common with T. solium.

In addition to infecting humans with the adult worm T. solium larvae also infect man. Infection with the larval form of T. solium occurs if a human ingests the eggs from a source contaminated by human feces. The larval form burrows

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Old April 10th, 2010, 11:45 PM
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You know, Marsha, the tragedy of our illness is that most doctors will not try to find out what parasite(s) are involved. Almost no one will look at our specimens and try to find out what exactly we have. Bee is especially interested in the tape worm aspect which could be a part of thiis and currently is using albendazole. I think her plans are to use it for some time, not just the five days that my doctor prescribed for me. Hopefully she will add her thoughts on the tape worm aspect she thinks is involved. I know I am convinced in my own case that I see parasites. Some of the parasites I have seen I am pretty sure were not tapeworms. Still I did have the black specks. Whatever those were they could move. They appeared alive and some crawled under the skin. I ate an undercooked fish which also had the toxin ciguatera. Well, fish have tape worms too, so...I also have seen what I am pretty sure are round worms. And other parasites I cannot identify. Others on the forum are describing parasites too. I think this will at some point be the real scandal about morgellons, that we have been left out here with inadequate studies. I feel at least some parasites could have been identified if anyone really looked and took this seriously (besides Dr. Harvey who did identify some of them--why has everyone else ignored this aspect for the most part?). Parasites may not be the whole picture of Morgellons, but it would be a good place to start treatment. I agree with you that the thought some parasites could be in the brain is not a pleasant thought.
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Old April 11th, 2010, 01:25 AM
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I remember years ago reading that a doctor had found cat tapeworm in the scalp of a Morgellons woman. I doubt I could find it now. But thought I would mention it. I have wondered about tapeworm in the past or other parasite but it could be so many things. I think when we go to the doctor we should not even mention the name Morgellons. Sad but until it is a recognized illness we are automatically going to get the raised eyebrow unless we are fortunate to find a opened minded doctor willing to actually live up to the Hippocratic oath!
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Old April 11th, 2010, 08:08 AM
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I would go back to Hulda Clarkes parasite cleanse for worms,,,the Black walnut did it for me,,using fresh B-w,,and CANDIDA CLEAR from NOW products,,,,killed two birds with one stone with the C-C..
Its still too early for fresh B-W,,but this early fall I will have plenty for anyone who wants some...just ask....

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Black Walnut Hulls (from the black walnut tree - juglans nigra)
was used by the Indians of America as an anti-parasite, anti-bacterial, anti-viral and anti-fungal remedy. Its active ingredients are juglone, tannin and iodine

Wormwood (from the Artemisia shrub - artemisia absinthum)
Its known for its vermicidal properties and helps those with a weak and under-active digestion. It increases the acidity of the stomach and the production of bile. It reduced bloatiness and

Common Cloves (from the clove tree - eugenia caryophyllata)
has anti-parasitical, anti-fungal, antiviral and anti-inflammatory properties. It also removes pain

These three herbs must be used together. Black walnut hull and wormwood kill adults and developmental stages of at least 100 parasites. Cloves kill the eggs. Only if you use them together will you rid yourself of parasites. If you kill only the adults, the tiny stages and eggs will soon grow into new adults. If you kill only the eggs, the million stages already loose in your body will soon grow into adults and make more eggs. They must be used together as a single treatment.


I only took the B-w,,seeing I hit it with the mms2,,,I think that finished the other off,,along with the oxyclean bodywashes,,which I still do....
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Old April 11th, 2010, 08:11 AM
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Forgot to say,,,I believe I had worms in my liver,,,giving me pain all the time,,but not now,,thank goodness...hurtin"s not hurtin anymore....
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