Pigeon associated human diseases

[Kritters]

Jonsi,

I originally had birds, cats and dogs but eliminated all three since they interfered with the yes and no stats. You say you have deer all over? Have you tested positive for Lymes? As Michelle said, (I think) you walk on the feces which containes the parasites or eggs and you bring them into the house on the bottom of your feet. When you walk on it, it can bore into the soles of your feet to enter your body.

Let's face it everyone....there are so many ways these pathogens can get to us. The average person is clueless about this and how easily they can become infected with a pathogen by cats, dogs, birds, turtles, whatever. There has to be a reason some people are effected and not others. "they" are saying that because of innoculations, anti-biotics, over-cleanliness we are destroying our bodies ability to develop natural antibodies and because of all the toxins we are being barded with, our immune systems are kept busy just trying to fight that. Now with superbugs in bio-engineered food we are eating, we just don't stand a chance.

What really hits me is this recent information about how Cpn is spread by coughing. This is a very serious pathogen responsible for many known diseases. How on earth are we going to combat this with everything we have going on to fight. Not to mention how many people do not take vitamin supplements. There's no way, esp. with the food being bio-engineered now that we eat, that we can obtain the nutrients we need from our food. By the time the trucks, which are polluting the air in the process, bring the food cross-country to the store shelves, they have lost most of their nutrients already.

I would really like to find out the numbers of every known common disease in the U.S. and U.K. for example. I think people just accept that a certain amount of the population will get sick, but they are just not putting 2 and 2 together.

2 and 2.

Kritts

[niecy]

Kritters, man did you ever just make me put 2 and 2 together. I could not possibly count the amount of deer that my son, and step son have killed, and brougt to my home and cleaned(there are even deer heads mounted and hanging in my sons room, along with a couple of fish)then brought the meat
into my kitchen to clean and package. I never thought about getting lyme disease that way!!!

We also live in the country, and have about 150 acres of timber land, and it is way overpopulated with deer. Someone is ALWAYS hitting one on the roads around here. They don't come up in my yard anymore, because I have a dog that barks if the wind blows....but not if someone pulls up in the driveway, go figure

I have made them stop cleaning them on my property, and I make them take them to a meat house to have them processed and packaged. The problem with that is they make deer jerky, and deer(smoked) sausage at the processing houses, and these kids, and everyone but me actually, eat this stuff. And even though they can't bring them here to clean, they have handled them, and come in my home with the clothes on that they were hunting in. It
drives me insane anymore, my family says that I am OCD about things now. I tell them to let something start eating their flesh and brains, then tell me I am OCD!!

I know that deer carry a disease that is fatal if it gets in your blood stream, it kills mostly taxidermists. I can't remember the name of the disease(it's like mad cow), but there is no cure for it, and whatever it is, it does it's damage in the brain. I just found out they are getting something called blue tongue, and they swell up and can't eat, then they die.(my son called as I was typing)

Kritters, also I don't know if I have mentioned here on the forum, but we have had 6 or 7 hunting dogs, and 4 horses to die. Everyone who would be in the pasture feeding or messing with the horses, came back into the house, yes I obsessed about that too. I got my way agout that though, and we don't have horses anymore!! But the dogs either have to be chained, or in a cage, because if you let them run loose they start running deer, so when they are getting fed, guess what people are walking in their feces too.............ohhhhhhhh what the heck do we do?? Just quit enjoying anything we like, I love the beach in Florida, but I am scared to go back...sorry I have went on for so long, I just needed to say a few things, I guess what you said about deer feces really just opened my eyes to alot of things that ARE going on at my home.

Have a good one Kritters

Niecy

[Jo]

Hey,

We've got deer around here too. A few years ago my Dad had something attached to his chest for a week....then they realised it was a tick , poor fella (my Dad, not the tick).

I cant remember getting bitten but I now know I've got Borrelia.

Jonsi - I think you mentioned the other day, getting bitten on your stomach at some point - sounded abit like a bull's eye rash????

And on the pigeon front - I used to work at a nuclear power station in environmental protection....there were big troubles with radioactive pigeon poop on the reactors. As if it wasnt lethal enough already!! I had to get to poop shipped out. How's that for a weird job??

Joey xxx

[Jo]

Oh - forgot to say,

ummm....I've been getting a thought in my head, again and again which says

"This is a marathon, not a sprint"

Thought I'd mention it.

xxx

[MELISSAJ]

I've been laying low, but I have to add to this thread. It is such a tangled web, but I grew up on a petting zoo, my dad's house/barn is in the middle of rural SW NY and there were dead deer, field mice and tons of barn cats that we shared the '06/'07 winter holidays with....

The deceased neighbors next door had birds!! She went blind and crazy. He fell off a ladder and broke his neck and died. They had moved away when the units went condo and purchased a few cities south. She didn't reach 50.

The current neighbors walk their dogs outside our unit and the boys play out there. All the dogs have hot spots and rub their bottoms on the ground to scratch their itches. My dad's dogs did the same. I patrol as good as I can, but you can only do so much. I cannot walk from the unit due to the R.E. market.

I love pets and nature. This is sad that the things we love are taken away from us. I no longer volunteer at the boys' school right now. I believe that I have CPN (or had) and I don't want others to get sick. I'm taking things day by day.

On another note, we spontaneously went to the beach this past Saturday. My 7y/o went in the ocean with 2 friends. My son and one other boys was ripped up with bites....more than 100. It was horrendous for him for 2 days. It looked like fire ant bites, but I'm not sure if it was sea lice or salt water causing a reaction to Morgellons. This happened to both of the boys last summer right around their bathing suit elastic!! Am I kidding myself about sea lice? Last summer no other children had bites that day. It was specific to the areas that were close to the skin.

I think I can go crazy trying to figure this out while the powers that be argue over this....I don't want what happened to Carla and her kids to happen to me. I immediately knew that this was not normal stuff and was very cautious because I didn't want to appear as crazy as this was making me.

Some days, I close my eyes and dream that it was just my imagination.

I love you guys for sharing what we cannot share with others. You make me not feel so weird. Okay, I'm crying. I don't want to feel sorry for myself. I have to go now.

Love,
M

[MELISSAJ]

One more things. Dr. H is convinced that borrelia is transmitted other ways besides tick bites. Obviously if the pathogen gets into the deers' blood, it gets into the feces and urine.

Also, what is the thing that we always protect ourselves from more than anything??? Bathroom germs!! So, if our world is becoming a giant toilet bowl, what will happen over time? We will get sick from these pathogens.

Remember the first red tide occurred from pig poop!!

M

[Jo]

Hang in there buddy, you're doing just great

Good point about borrelia. I think there are lots of ways too. My bro whose a doc mentioned that too. And there's different strains of borrelia. I just know my bloods got spirochetes in it. I'm even thinking they could be inside the fibres...(or one of the bacterias inside of the morgellon parasites).

xxx

[MELISSAJ]

I keep praying for the children!! They don't deserve this mess.

Also, I remember the informercials asking for money for the third world countries who have contaminated water, but what is happening to ours? our air? our food? We're so busy working and then getting sick and trying to get better and back to work. Something is wrong with the big picture.

And the band played on....

M

[Jo]

Absolutely. I think thats why we're all here isnt it....for the children.

Yes - must remain faithful in prayer, for their sake, indeed.

xxx

[Kritters]

Amen to all the above.
xo
Kritts