Cryptostrongylus Pulmoni - A new kind of Nematode

[Jo]

Hi guys,

I wanna pick up this thread again about Cryptostrongylus Pulmoni - a new kind of roundworm, that we were discussing in this locked thread:
http://www.morgellons-disease-resear...19660#msg19660

Recap!
Cryptostrongylus Pulmoni is a nematode, or roundworm, that is very small and not visible to the naked eye.
The bright red male measures only 200 to 350 microns in length, while the female is a little less than one millimeter long and 'maybe' blue in appearance, according to:

http://www.toxicworm.com/page5.html

Here's the site main page: http://www.toxicworm.com/page1.html

I have emailed Jules, the owner of toxicworm.com as he has been considering a link with Morgellons and Cryptostrongylus Pulmoni for some time now.

His view, that the female has blue pigment or ink in it, is a view not shared with Dr Klapow who has been researching this worm with Harvard University - and believes that the female is transparent.

http://www.members.tripod.com/lak123/

Jules posted his story on Morgellons Watch in 2006. He'd had problems with CFS and a fungal infection and then cultured some samples that showed Cryptostrongylus Pulmoni

I'm particularly interested in this, because I've found out today that my doctor (in the Harvey camp) believes this sucker to be the culprit.

I'd appreciate any thoughts or challenges on this subject, to help work through its validity as a morgellons theory.

Cheers

Jo xxxx

[tcmgpt13]

Well, Jo, I could see Cryptostrongylus Pulmoni as the background to the chronic fatigue most are experiencing, but I feel that this will not be the single cause of morgellons. I think the picture of this disease is far more complex and may vary from individual to individual. I know there is research saying that patients with chronic fatigue are often infected with this worm, but this is just one symptom of morgellons. Probably there is no easy answer to the cause of morgellons and my belief is that this worm will not describe all the parasites being associated with morgellons. I know that I have seen others too, and this would correlate with what researchers on Harvey's team seem to be reporting as well. More than one parasite seems to be involved and they are not the same from patient to patient.

As heavy metals permeate the environment and make everyone more susceptible to diseases of all sorts, I sometimes believe it is the polluted environment in which we live that is the guilty party in so far that these allow opportunistic infections to invade our immunodeficient bodies. Some of the pollution comes with the food we eat which often has no resemblance to anything man has ever eaten, including processed foods and gmo foods. The oxygen level of the air is lower than it used to be. So there are many contributing factors to morgellons which are not even the parasites themselves. In addition there are the possible mycoplasma infections I feel many may have as well as the possible link to chlamydia pneumonia and lymes, not to mention genetic factors which may also be involved, such as the inability of the body to eliminate mold. I read just recently that as many as 25% of the population may have this problem to a greater or lesser extent. Mold seems to be a co-factor for most as well. Probably the morgellons issue has some key issue holding it together, and maybe it is this worm, but then again, with so many other issues involved, maybe it is not.

[Jo]

Yours are the words of a Hero member. Thank you TCM. Permission to use your words in discussions with others in times to come???

How I wish we understood it.....bear with me

Environmental toxins weaken our immune systems - PCBs, Heavy Metals, free radicals ....many organisms are a sink for chemicals that accumulate inside.....including us, either directly or through the fact that humans are at the top of many food chains.

Genetically, we and all other organisms have genes that are changing shape and form - probably because of a number of factors, including environmental toxins!!

Infections with organisms - we 'adopt' bacterias, viruses, yeasts and molds, mites, nematodes that are dormant or active in our bodies throughout our lives...herpes complex, C. Pneumonia, etc....

What I don't get is the commonality in our 'morgellon type' symptoms - I cant help thinking that a specific organism/s are implicated....

Inflamation of the whites of the eye and white stringy deposits
Glitter specs with microscopic multi-coloured balls
Fibres - white, black, red, blue
Black specs from the skin that love window sealant
Infected follicles and white granules that appear when scratched from hair follicles and pores
Electro-magnetic hairs and raised hives that appear on the skin when touched by wet hair
Bloated intestines
Pretend moles, nasty spots and legions that dont heal easy
Association with evolved, opportunistic organisms that decide to jump on board for the ride...

....its details like these that astound me and made me join this forum. All very sneaky and slowly chronic.

On a specific note regarding the red and blue nematode theory - if the red male measures only 200 to 350 microns in length, while the female is a little less than one millimeter, then how come we can see these fibres with the naked eye?...they are much longer than this....so how could they be the nematodes shedded skins?

Sorry to ramble on

Jo xxx

[Bad_Boy]

What I don't get is the commonality in our 'morgellon type' symptoms - I cant help thinking that a specific organism/s are implicated....

Yes, Jo! Or possibly a common genetic background as you've mentioned. Why is one member of the family spared while all others are affected? Toxins or other environmental conditions, as I've been learning, can have a compounded affect as it manipulates genetic information to the detriment of future generations down the line. Did you guys get a gander at the info posted on this thread? Poor little guy.

I can't help think that perhaps those with a weakened factor along a particular chromosome may find themselves more susceptible to environmental toxins as well. Interesting stuff, you guys. Thanks!

BB

[Jo]

Hi peeps,

Thanks. The moon was riding high last night, and I was sweating

So a combination of different predisposing factors are in the background. Then there is a trigger/or triggers that infect us, become systemic and through multi processes, produces the symptoms that we see.

I guess, I'm starting to realise just how big this is. More complex than I'd thought.

Joey xxx

[Jo]

Hi,

I have only found one scientific paper anywhere on Cryptostrongylus pulmoni, by Klapow below:
http://www.anapsid.org/cnd/diffdx/klapow.html

And related piece by Dr Klapow on Cryptostrongylus pulmoni and multisystemic illness. He suffers from it:
http://www.anapsid.org/cnd/diffdx/klapow2.html


Dr. Hildegard Staninger spoke at a conference in 2006 about Cryptostrongylus pulmoni and CFS, that Tara posted

http://www.morgellons-disease-resear...18291#msg18291

Wonder if Dr Staninger has considered it at all as a cause for morgellon type red and blue fibers? Who would know?? ??

Saccharomyces boulardii
In Klapow's article he mentions the benefits of taking Saccharomyces boulardii, which is similar to brewers yeast, but different.

S. boulardii has been shown to maintain and restore the natural flora in the large and small intestine; it is classified as a probiotic. It has shown to be effective against Acute Diarrhea, Recurrent Clostridium difficile Infection, Irritable Bowel Syndrome, Inflammatory Bowel Disease, Travelers' Diarrhea and Antibiotic-Associated Diarrhea

S. boulardii has been shown to be non-pathogenic, non-systemic (remains in the gastrointestinal tract), and grows at the unusually high temperature of 37°C. It induces the secretion of IgA provides protection against invading microbes in the gastrointestinal and respiratory tracts. Also has Anti-Inflammatory Effects, Antitoxin Effects, Antimicrobial Effects and Trophic Effects on Enterocytes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saccharomyces_boulardii

There's gonna be a number of uk morgies tested for c. pulmoni markers. Will be interesting to see what happens....

cheers

Joey xxx

[Jo]

Hello everyone,

Just a quick update.

I'm aware that one of my docs patients has just tested positive for Cryptostrongylus, using a special live blood screening machine that is used to test for Borrellia. My bloods are booked in today - we will see!! Apparently the results will take 2 weeks.

Through conversations with Jules (Australian researcher on Cryptostrongylus pulmoni, and sufferer), he's mentioned that he wrote to the MRF in 2006, because he thought that there was a link between Cryptostrongylus and morgellons, because of the red and blue fibres and other odd symptoms.

Back pain maybe related to a Cryptostrongylus infection.

So please take the poll on spine pain, especially if you get fibers!

(This is the revised survey)
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?s...yeQoRZMA_3d_3d

cheers

Jo xxx

[Kritters]

Hi Joey,

I have pain in 3 places and could only enter the poll once for one of those places.

xo
Kritts

[Jason]

Jo,

Did your doc find borrellia in your blood? Keep us posted on the Cryptostrongylus results!

[Jo]

THANKS!! for identifying a major wrinkle there Kritts....ok help me out guys, options:

1)choose the most longstanding, frequent pain???

2)take the poll a number of times ??

3)ask a different closed question with 'yes' or 'no' options - do you suffer from back pain??.....do you get a pain in the neck ....etc. running a number of polls on the same topic.

there's limitations whatever way...

brains please..........(we can scrub this bit of the thread after) cheers jo xxx

- the purpose of the poll is to ascertain if morgies get pain in specific area/s