Help! How to order Eco-Vie

[veryscared]

I read kbubb's post from back in Sept. 29, 2006 about Eco-Vie and found the website, but the internet will let me view the page, but then will not let me continue to the ordering page. I then called the phone number on the website and it says disconnected! I sent an email to the email on the site and it came back as undeliverable. I hope that this place has not gone out of business or something! I read the testimonials and although no one was saying the word "morgellons" they WERE saying fibers, black specks and worms etc. and raving about how this stuff was working for them.....So, I really want to try it but HOW?? Is this stuff still on the market that kbubb wrote about and who is selling it?? Please Help! THanks

[Pollyringworm]

Originally Posted by veryscared

I read kbubb's post from back in Sept. 29, 2006 about Eco-Vie and found the website, but the internet will let me view the page, but then will not let me continue to the ordering page. I then called the phone number on the website and it says disconnected! I sent an email to the email on the site and it came back as undeliverable. I hope that this place has not gone out of business or something! I read the testimonials and although no one was saying the word "morgellons" they WERE saying fibers, black specks and worms etc. and raving about how this stuff was working for them.....So, I really want to try it but HOW?? Is this stuff still on the market that kbubb wrote about and who is selling it?? Please Help! THanks

One big piece of advice most of us can give you is DON'T order everything everyone days works. You'll go broke and still be sick.

I know you're freaking out. We all do. But these things you're ordering are not solutions. I have children with this too. My youngest only four. Stop ordering and delve into the forums and read. A lot of the posts you read about this working or that working may be temporary solutions at best.

If you really want to order enzymes, consider bug arrest. It's the same thing but cheaper. Also, don't spray the crap out of your house. Neem oil works on body not sprayed. You may find the enzymes to be the same.

Find people on here that have gotten better and match your symptoms then ask them how they did it. Ask them at this point in time, not a previous post from years ago. Things have changed, I guarantee it.

DON'T go ordering things. Seriously, you'll be broke and sick. This is so far beyond what you can order online.

In the meantime, bathe in salt. Be careful with the kids. Watch how much salt you put in their baths, it causes the heart to race if you put too much in. From my experience, anyway.

If you have hair issues, nizoral shampoo works. Buy at local drugstore. For the crawling, I've sprayed with martins nylar and it helped. There is varying opinions on this. The good thing about it is it lasts six months.

All these things helped me and were inexpensive.

[veryscared]

Thank you so much Polly for the advice. I will try to slow down with all the ordering and concentrate on just baths and laundry and of course my Nutrasilver which I have already spent the money on .....I think it might be helping but I am not 100% sold and yet get scared of running out and not reordering since we are doing some better and if it is helping I don't want to run out of it. Thanks again for replying to my postings!

[Pollyringworm]

Originally Posted by veryscared

Thank you so much Polly for the advice. I will try to slow down with all the ordering and concentrate on just baths and laundry and of course my Nutrasilver which I have already spent the money on .....I think it might be helping but I am not 100% sold and yet get scared of running out and not reordering since we are doing some better and if it is helping I don't want to run out of it. Thanks again for replying to my postings!

You're welcome. And I think you'll find the nutrasilver not a cure. If it was, we'd all be well.

[Baraka Obam]

I used quite alot of this and still have about 4 or more bottles left. I used it but it only did one thing, it gave me relief on my eye problems.

I unlike polly would use as much salt as you can possibly get to dissolve in the water, do it and do some more, the ocean holds

Now listen to this, there is 1/4 of a pound of salt in every gallon of sea water, in every single gallon, I do not know about you but my heart NEVER races when I get in sea water, I even got in it today, nope no racing and I have never heard of such a thing happening to anyone else.

Dear new friend, you have to watch who you listen at all to here as every NEWBIE becomes a expert instantly, they read a little while they decide what they like and don't like, they form an opinion and can never break free of the very first idea.

The simple fact is, there is NO NO NO scientific evidence that parasites or bugs are related to our disease, there is absolutely no proof of this.

If there was we would know about it, and I am sorry to say we do not know about a issue with bugs or parasites that we ALL have in common.

When people are telling you this and that, go and look for that fact, most of them are being made up.

I myself have found a A LIVING MOVING PARASITE, now do not get a LIVING MOVING PARASITE mixed up with visions of parasites, visions of parasites abound BUT, THERE ARE NO PICTURES OF THEM, I have a video, it was not easy to find this parasite, no it was not.


I had to use a microscope for over a year every day until on day at 250X magnification I happened upon one that was in my urine.

A simple course of IVERMECTIN took care of THAT parasite very easily, not weeks and months and years of poison, 12 days of IVERMECTIN, that was it.

I have a funny feeling that most of the people relate bugs to itching here, MOST I say because there is a outside chance they do have bugs.

Focus on what you know, that is, there are no bugs on you or coming out of your skin, do not imagine something you see, black dots, white dots, whatever are bugs, you should not imagine things, PROVE THEM.

If you have parasites or bugs you will have hundreds if not hundreds of thousands, not one or two or ten, get a microscope that takes pictures and show that baby moving in a video.

Then remember, the newest hokey pokey spew that others are offering as facts or the best treatments since the beginning of time to gobble down can possible kill you, so beware, some people here do not think at all, the question for you to ask should be what if, such as WHAT IF THIS DRUG DESTROYS MY KIDNEYS, WHAT IF IT DAMAGES MY HEART, you get it.

They will say, oh don't worry, gobble it down, be a good girl and smart girl, man, boy, do not worry, because I do not worry. BEWARE

DO NOT take anything that has no time limit on it, that is one dangerous idea, there are NO safe drugs on the planet, overuse of anything can and most likely will show up later as severe or possibly deadly.

Some people here will contact you right away when you join to get you to do their what they call PROTOCOL, BEWARE they may IMAGINE they are the savior coming for the second time.

They are not, well I can not say that, how about most likely they are not the savior.

The way you can tell for sure, they try to force stuff down your throat.

Pay attention NEWBIES, there are certain things most people have had excellent results with, like sun, salt water, baking soda, some vitamins, some herbs, some drugs, exercise and EATING GOOD FRESH FOOD.

Do not blame them for their exuberance, even if what they say will kill you deader than a doornail, they do not mean to harm you, they do not want to harm you, they just want everyone to be well.

The problem is, most of the fanatics are by people that are new to this themselves and they CAN NOT UNDERSTAND, the people that have come before them are not stupid, but there is just not a magic bullet to destroy whatever this is.

They imagine that the people that came before them have dropped the ball, its the same with all youngsters.

[scabdraggr]

Your lips are moving BO,stop confusing good people with this jargon that helps no one but you.You are in my opinion doing harm once again and it's only to make your little man syndrome feel better.None of what you said will help anyone.Give it up guy,no one is listening to that any more.

[veryscared]

Yes, nutrasilver has helped my eyes some. Only put it in there a couple of times and it clearedr the haze. BUT, I am not endorsing it OR selling it for crying out loud! If anything I would have to be a salt salesperson.
All I can say is what I see under a $15 microscope bought at radio shack.........black threads, sometimes red and white in the "bites". Some weird things that I have saved in a bag that came out of my teeth (which had been hurting and although I never have cavities but I thought I had some......dentist said none and told me I might have a facial nerve disorder) and after they came out mouth felt better. I don't know what this is and I wonder if anyone does.....sometimes I think those at the cdc do know but for a very unethical reason will not say. I don't care if it is bugs, fungus, parasites, bacteria, viruses, space dust, chemtrails, pesticides or what it is, I just want it to go away. Please don't get "hung up" on my use of the word "bug". I simply choose that word because to me they act like bugs when they swarmed me once and the "bites" itch like a mosquito bite.
Yes Polly I have heart palpitations when I make water really salty (I think it was Polly who said this). I have heart palpitations on and off anyway, but I have noticed that there is this side effect and have backed off some with the salt from what I was hearing on the internet when I first started to do this like barak some were pouring a pool bag in there or something! I've never done that much but I dumped in a whole bag of epsoms once. I've heard to watch out for ivermectin that it is poison and yet some say to get rid of it you need to poison yourself alittle in order to poison the "bugs". I get very scared of this though! The derm told me absolutely not to use permethrin on my kids, she said it was toxic....so I think this might be poison too. I know it had them running for the only spot on me that I did not put it, so that is a good thing, but I am scared to death of it now but did not throw it away. I've thought about putting it in my car somehow since I crawl/itch even more when I am in there but I don't know how I would use it in there since it is a cream. I sprayed the car with white vinegar instead. Feels some better, but still not gone. I don't know this is the weirdest thing and so very scary. The guy in Germany thinks that many morgellons people also have lyme. I looked at lyme symptoms and sure enough I have lots of them. Of course the black fibers etc. are not part of lyme so??? I had a bunch of black specks come out the first times I did the salt baths and it was such a relief that now even when itching less than I was I have continued with the salt and it really really does help and I can't see how anyone could accuse me of selling SALT! ha ha! I have no stake or shares in a salt company or something either! I guess that eco vie is an enzyme.....I don't know what it is I just read kbubb's thing and it sounded like they used it for everything, but she did say to use white vinegar if you can't get it. I have some cream coming from Germany the dsp stuff. Again, I will try it and see what I think that is all I can do is read and try stuff and try not to poison myself and the kids along the way. I'm much more conservative with the kids and what I do with them since I know that the dose for me would be way less for them. Called the nutrasilver guy and he said only 10 and 7 drops for the kids.
Was giving it to them 3x per day but have backed off to once a day. Some people swear by it though. I have been thinking that if I work on the inside with good food and getting ph balanced and eating cleansing food and if I clean the environment and clothes etc. and then do something for the skin that hopefully all three together will at least make it be manageable. The guy in Germany's site says this too. His site has been very informative to me and he has tried to help.
Anyway, I think what works for one might not for another because I have read that this can take on 4-5 different "forms" with similar symptoms. Maybe I have lymes too. I don't know, but I am going to look into that too. When this first started we tore this house apart looking for bed bugs because I had heard this was a problem that was growing. Could find nothing, but mattresses are now encased in zippered covers! Anyway, so much I could say. Should probably just read!

[tcmgpt13]

I do not know if the company is still open, but ordering from Canada is probably very expensive due to shipping costs for a heavy item. Personally I felt this product worked to help my skin during long soaks. I found it was much more effective than is Bug Arrest. I think this product's enzymes would be effected by being shipped in cold freezing weather. It is possible (though I do not know) that they close down for the winter. You could try calling during the week to see if they are there as posted website hours are for weekdays only. Also you would need to pay attention to the time zones if you call.

Gene's Natural Products in Oregon used to carry this product but he stopped back when this company ran into some problems fermenting their enzymes. The product became unavailable for some months. I know everyone talks about using live enzymes found in kefir, yogurt and raw foods for good internal health. I think this product lived up to that description only it was for external use, but like yeast it is a delicate process to ferment properly. During this process like all live fermenting enzymes it was subject to developing bad molds. That said, if it were readily available to purchase I would still buy it for the occasional bath. It was expensive and it also had a potent odor many did not like. It was not a cure though it relieved many of my worst skin symptoms (along with the internal TCM herbs I was using) when I was first sick.

quote=veryscared;89144]I read kbubb's post from back in Sept. 29, 2006 about Eco-Vie and found the website, but the internet will let me view the page, but then will not let me continue to the ordering page. I then called the phone number on the website and it says disconnected! I sent an email to the email on the site and it came back as undeliverable. I hope that this place has not gone out of business or something! I read the testimonials and although no one was saying the word "morgellons" they WERE saying fibers, black specks and worms etc. and raving about how this stuff was working for them.....So, I really want to try it but HOW?? Is this stuff still on the market that kbubb wrote about and who is selling it?? Please Help! THanks[/quote]