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Old January 30th, 2011, 02:21 AM
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If anyone knows of any way to help this to improve or go away, please let me know.

My feet (& toes) and my lower legs, are like packed. With different sizes of bugs. The longer I stand or walk, the worse my feet and legs feel.

Here is one of the more weird stories, but it is true. Somehow, the bugs seem to be coming out of the bottom of my feet. Like where my arch is. Like most of my morgellons illness, I can feel them and see their outlines, but they are under my skin.

The "bugs" try to move up my leg to my knee area. Soon they will be all packed together and none can move. My next problem is that my legs and feet and toes hurt and feel like they might burst!

Any ideas? Or where I might look to help me with this problem? I could go on and on, but hopefully yall get the drift.

Thanks, hellalone
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Old January 30th, 2011, 05:55 PM
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Have you been taking the hot salt baths? Do you take an antiparasitic? Even if they are not "bugs" (mine are) they will come out with something like Paragone. You can buy it over the counter. I'm not a medical person (was once a nurse but didn't come across M) but this worked for me and they have a hotline if you need to ask questions.
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Old January 30th, 2011, 06:53 PM
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I would go to tractor supply or any seed and feed store and acquire the equine dewormer paste with praziquantel14% with 1.78% ivermectin.It is in an applicator that allows one to squirt it into the back of the mouth.They will also have the same dewormer with 14% ivermectin that can be used alternately on a daily basis for 3 days and then wait one week and use it againj.The praziquantel tube has 4 doses for a person and the iver tube has the same amount of doses.So far everyone that ha done this has had great results,especially the ones with a total infestation like what you are describing.Oxy clean and pinesol cleaner will also help to prevent reinfestation and lesion spread.The pine sol is a must for cleaning ones clothes which is a source of things that reinfest us.I use it in my bath water and also wipe the walls and wood or tile floors with it.I t seems that essential oils attatch to the fibers and stop their spread.Have you seen them floating in the air inside your residence?The PS will stop this.I have observed the clustering of the things under and on the skin.How large is the area where this is happening on your legs?
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Old January 30th, 2011, 07:07 PM
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Well, here's something for a laugh, one of my experiences which touches on toes (mine). Although WTH does not say anything on this thread about it, evidently my post left her laughing for quite some time. It was a running joke between us in posts for a couple years. Sadly we no longer hear from some of our members. WTH, if you are reading now, you are missed:

Anyone feel the critters may exert direct influence on their behavior? (permalink 15)

Anyway, I do think the feet are affected by this illness. In TCM there is one spleen point near the arch of the foot and this area has been a problem for me off and on too. I have seen the worm-like critters there and I also get bad cramps in that area at times. Spleen 4 is the one I think could have been very affected in my own case as I had an onset which appeared to be food poisoning:

SP 4 Acupuncture Point - Gong Sun - Spleen Meridian | Yin Yang House
  • Actions & Effects:
  • Excess pathologies of the ST and Intestines - severe abdominal a/or epigastric pain, dysentery, food poisoning.
  • Gynecological and Abdominal issues due to stagnation of Qi and Blood - masses, fibroids, cysts, irregular menstruation.
  • With PC 6 for chest and heart pain, shen disorders, sighing, anxiety, insomnia, nervousness.
Here's one page which shows the points of the spleen meridian and also discusses what this channel governs:

(SP) Spleen Meridian - Graphic | Yin Yang House

BTW others have mentioned getting cramps in their feet as well.
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Old January 31st, 2011, 12:38 AM
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If I experienced this, I would try to soak my feet in very warm water with apple cider vinegar. I used to use this as a way to remove dead skin, as an exfoliation at home. But am thinking it will also help the body move out gunk from the feet and lower limbs that the body pushes down away from the vital organs. I don't have these symptoms that you describe, but that might help.

If you are curious as I am.... over the past months I thought I had observed a few bugs under skin (mine and others). When these objects finally surfaced they would rise to the surface of the skin then pierce through (that does hurt a lot) and then come out. They would still look like tiny bugs but under 10-30x magnification they were not, they are knotted filaments. The source is still mysterious. All I have examined turned out to be a knotted mass of bug shaped filaments. I just call them M objects now since there's no name for those yet. I hate having M gunk come out from my skin, as it hurts, causes swelling and inflammation...but the idea that any of those might clog up a vital organ instead is a more frightening thought.


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If anyone knows of any way to help this to improve or go away, please let me know.

My feet (& toes) and my lower legs, are like packed. With different sizes of bugs. The longer I stand or walk, the worse my feet and legs feel.

Here is one of the more weird stories, but it is true. Somehow, the bugs seem to be coming out of the bottom of my feet. Like where my arch is. Like most of my morgellons illness, I can feel them and see their outlines, but they are under my skin.

The "bugs" try to move up my leg to my knee area. Soon they will be all packed together and none can move. My next problem is that my legs and feet and toes hurt and feel like they might burst!

Any ideas? Or where I might look to help me with this problem? I could go on and on, but hopefully yall get the drift.

Thanks, hellalone
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Old January 31st, 2011, 02:49 AM
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Thanks for all the help and ideas that you guys have sent me. I will defenitely try them.

Belle - I have not taken any salt baths, but will try it. Do you put like 1 whole round salt container? Our Walmart might have the paragone.

scabdraggr - I do not get to clean much. Clean clothes, dishes and vacuum some. There are lots of short white hair which bind together. And lots of black dots. When all this gets together, it can move a lot - like they have a purpose. That is one of the first thing I pick up. We have a Tractor Supply that might have the ivermectin. I have heard about this from others. Just chicken to buy and to use. I have been using Enzymes for our windows. But Pine Sol might be better or cheaper. I have most of the bugs from my knees all packed, down to and including my toes.

tcmgpt13 - Thanks for the links. It is nice to listen to other people and what they are doing. Is there anyway to test my spleen?

jeanlong - Apple cider vinegar is another bath soak I have not tried. I will have to have a week of diff. bath soaks. I have the bad feeling that my larger parasites might get into my heart, spleen, and around my neck. I have never thought of them stopping up blood vessels.

Thanks to all of you. hellalone
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Old January 31st, 2011, 05:59 PM
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HA you could apply some acupressure along the spleen meridian to see what happens. Also here's a blog I found which discusses messaging spleen 3 and 4 which are used to improve digestive health:

More Acupressure Points on the Feet, Spleen Meridian - massage and bodywork professionals

I think many of us do have weak spleen function (deficiency) so anything you can do to move blocked chi in this area may help the digestion. And it's something you can do yourself. Very low cost. One way to test to see if anything is blocked is to push the points themselves, especially spleen 4 (I know that this point was used a lot along with spleen point 6 by the TCM practitioner in the clinic where I used to observe his treatments). If you are at all blocked in the channel at that point it will be somewhat tender and sore, sometimes very tender and sore. Voila, your spleen function and digestive "test". LOL

Here's a good site which discusses how to help raise your own immunity using acupressure. How to apply acupressure is discussed at the bottom of this page and there are also photos to illustrate technique:

Acupressure Points for Boosting the Immune System

I haven't done this in some time now, but when I was a couple of years into Morgellons I used what is called a foot detox machine. There are several companies which make them. Anyway I used to have a lot of stuff emerge from my feet when I used it about twice a week, mainly the white worm like things (they did not exactly move but surely looked like very small worms). I also had something which looked like a very tine jelly fish come out as well. I think perhaps somehow the body might produce artifacts that look like parasites or perhaps this particular parasite just did not survive once it emerged into the bath. I have seen some rather frightening things since getting Morgellons. Some parasites did move, especially at the beginning. Even the black specks would come out in large clumps, once from my hand. When I threw that lump away in the toilet it broke apart into what looked like millions of tiny black specks, each of the specks whirling away in a different direction, at the same time also moving in a clock wise circle. It could not have been merely surface tension of the water which caused this, but what they were I do not know. I have also seen the specks crawl on my skin, but not recently.

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If anyone knows of any way to help this to improve or go away, please let me know.

My feet (& toes) and my lower legs, are like packed. With different sizes of bugs. The longer I stand or walk, the worse my feet and legs feel.

Here is one of the more weird stories, but it is true. Somehow, the bugs seem to be coming out of the bottom of my feet. Like where my arch is. Like most of my morgellons illness, I can feel them and see their outlines, but they are under my skin.

The "bugs" try to move up my leg to my knee area. Soon they will be all packed together and none can move. My next problem is that my legs and feet and toes hurt and feel like they might burst!

Any ideas? Or where I might look to help me with this problem? I could go on and on, but hopefully yall get the drift.

Thanks, hellalone
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If anyone knows of any way to help this to improve or go away, please let me know.

My feet (& toes) and my lower legs, are like packed. With different sizes of bugs. The longer I stand or walk, the worse my feet and legs feel.

Here is one of the more weird stories, but it is true. Somehow, the bugs seem to be coming out of the bottom of my feet. Like where my arch is. Like most of my morgellons illness can feel them and see their outlines, but they are under my skin.

The "bugs" try to move up my leg to my knee area. Soon they will be all packed together and none can move. My next problem is that my legs and feet and toes hurt and feel like they might burst!

Any ideas? Or where I might look to help me with this problem? I could go on and on, but hopefully yall get the drif

Thanks, hellalone
I personally rid myself of the bugs by applying atopical dose of Revolution. This topically applid medication is intended for cats and dogs. I applied 1 dose for a 120lb dog onto my back. In 24 hours the fun started. Mites were leaping off my body. It continud for another 24 hrs and by the fith day all the bugs were gone. What attracted the bugs to me? I believe it is a fungus that I have been carring for years.. Tinea. I think that is what attracted the bugs as I was able to pull bugs right out of the sores On my skin.
I am now using lamisil, loprox and dettol to combat the fungus.
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Ii belie3ve that my morgellans started as a fungual infection I picked up as a child. For 30 years I was told thatt I had acne, and was given many potent drugs that did not work. S the year went on I had been exposed. To many pets that carried mites. Mites love to eat fungus as do nematodes. I had my yard sprayed with nematodes to combat grubs. When the nematodes ran out oofb grubs and fungus in thelawnthey came intomy home and started to eat the mold and mildew in my house and the fungus on my body. I think that the fungus is Tinea...aka ringworm.. rid myself of the bugs with a topical vet med called reveloution. Combating fungus with internal colloidal silver, topical Lorprx,lamisil and dettol.
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Old February 2nd, 2011, 03:10 AM
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hollynadine - I think at one time or another, my dog and/or cat took revolution. I am just too afraid to use that, because I would freak out when lots of bugs and worms came out of me. I know that I have tons of parasites inside me, but they are on the other side of my skin (in me). I know that is really stupid to think that way, but... Having a salt bath with parasites coming out of, me into the water, also scares me. But I think I can control that better.
tcmgpt13 - I really like those 2 links. I will print in the am (later). Rest of house is sleeping. I am going to try to do the pressure points (?). I think it will help me. I like your stories - they make me feel less alone and not as much a freak.

Thank you! hellalone
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