Gel Hand Sanitizers for the White Things

[sojii]

I've heard that these work to bring the white things out of the pores. I've only found one that works for me, connected to a cosmetic line, and of course, they quit making it. It's 65% ethyl alcohol. The regular hand sanitizers don't have any effect at all, but they're 60% ethyl alcohol. Could that 5% make that big a difference? And does anyone use a particular one they'd recommend? I'm almost out and don't know what I'll do when it's gone.
I don't have a bathtub; just a shower (retirement community) and can't do the soaks a lot of you do. This is the easiest and quickest thing I've found.
It also breaks down the biofilm on my skin.

[jonsi]

I don't think rubbing alcohol works on "M". IMHO it aggravates the "M".

Also, those hand sanitizers kill the good bacteria. Be careful!

Try some ground cumin (found in the spice section at your grocery store) and use it as a body scrub. It pulled the white stuff (goo) out of my skin using the cumin powder.

In the white light,
~jonsi

[Jo]

Originally Posted by sojii

I've heard that these work to bring the white things out of the pores. I've only found one that works for me, connected to a cosmetic line, and of course, they quit making it. It's 65% ethyl alcohol. The regular hand sanitizers don't have any effect at all, but they're 60% ethyl alcohol. Could that 5% make that big a difference? And does anyone use a particular one they'd recommend? I'm almost out and don't know what I'll do when it's gone.
I don't have a bathtub; just a shower (retirement community) and can't do the soaks a lot of you do. This is the easiest and quickest thing I've found.
It also breaks down the biofilm on my skin.

Hello Sojii,

Some hand gels work better than others. The alcohol opens up the skin pores and sedates the buggers. Like Jonsi I think hand gel aggravates the morgs if used as a treatment longterm, BUT its a good diagnostic tool. Check out this thread Entice the worm beneath

DMSO will do the same thing. Also mosturisers with Isopropyl myristate high up in ingredients list.

Also - check out the green tea thread. Green tea is another one:
Green tea reduces the itch
As well as Dzana's bentonite clay and olive oil mix:
Breaking Up Bio Film

Rotate afew things maybe. I found the green tea trick was enough to get me back to work (just!).

Jo xxx

[sojii]

I hadn't seen those threads. I will try the green tea and citrus. Drinking and rubbing on. Does it have to be expensive organic or just regular green tea bags?

Jo, do you think orange or lime would be ok instead of lemon? It's not as irritating to the stomach (mine, anyway).

Jonsi, I agree about killing the good bacteria - I've taught Standard Precautions for years in healthcare and always tell people to use it as little as possible - but it was all I'd found that worked! But it really may be making it worse; there are a lot more of the things in the palms of my hands than there used to be. What grosses me out is that my hands are so sticky all the time and I think that means I'm infecting everything I touch even if nothing is coming out at the time.

[hurtin1]

You can still find 91% rubbing alcohol,,and I DID find that using this when I had the face swarming,,,,stopped it pretty fast..
Sorry I forgot to mention that....before...
I had to look around alot to find a place that carried the high percentage..

Sojii,,,would you be able to get your hands on some lye soap,,like grandmas old fashion brand..
They sell it at our hardware store here locally,,,if you need some,,,I can send ya some if need be,,see-in,your so close to me..

The 91% did kill alot of this surface crap on my skin,,when I had this...it did help to fight this ,,so please dont just poo-poo the idea of using it.
If you kill just a little,,(imho),,,is better than not killing any at all..

I however do not trust the sanitizers (gel),,,there is no way of finding out just what EXACTLY is in it,,,,companies do not disclose ALL of thier ingredients,,of their products..,,and thats a fact...
I will stick to the known basics(base products ,,that is),,,in this case,,,,alcohol,,,so,,why get "cut" alcohol?(and cut with ???)
Give me the straight stuff(100%),,,or next best...

[sojii]

What does the lye soap do? All I know about it is that it's very strong, strong enough to do the laundry, and kids used to get their mouths washed out with it for profanity in the first half of the last century. Is it good for getting the stuff out of skin? Where did you find 91% alcohol? (I don't order over the internet.)

I'm about to say to heck with it on my skin and just sit down with a bottle of scotch and drink 'em to death...

[Gator]

Hi Sojii,

Sojii maybe you could make them drunk with the scotch LOL Just fooling. Laugh

I do not drink alcohol but I get pure grain alcohol at the state liquor store. I use it to make herbal tinctures. It is called Everclear. It is expensive to me. If I make my own tinctures, at lest I know what is in them. The dose can be heated to make the alcohol disapate. It really isn't necessary as there is more alcohol in a banana than in a dose of tincture.

AS for the Gel, it is highly toxic and it destroys all bacteria good and bad. I always think about what I put on my skin goes directly into my cels bypassing the digestive system. So, please be careful with it. I also have MCS Multiple Chemical Sensitivity from a chemical injury and I suppose that makes me more aware of products containing chemicals.

The schools here required all the children to use it until those with asthma, lung problems and allergies were getting so sick from the poison gel. If I just smell it, I get very dizzy and sick.

Grandma's Lye Soap from the hardware store is not the old-fashioned soap my mother used to make. It has something other than old- fashioned Red Devil LYe in it and the lard has BHT in it as a preservative. It is a nice soap and is unscented so I use it occasionally. It didn't work for my lesions.

Jonsi's remedy works. There was a person who mixed papaya,oil and a 3rd ingredient that made a purge oil.She was on Morgellons Sanctum which was abruptly closed.

Jonsi, do you remember the purge oil lftipton made. Would you be willing to call Linda/lynn and get the recipe. I know she has it.

Sojii. Somewhere on this site is Chester's post. She posted a diary of what she was doing and how she got well. She doesn't post anymore.

Bubba's protocol is also here. I am not very computer literate, but Carla could find it gfor you.

Gator

[jonsi]

Gator, I will call those ppl and try to get the purge oil recipe! My "recipe" is easy, just ground cumin and water, make a paste and use it as a body scrub.

Most of you know that my daughter & I have been "healthy" going on 3 years now. We got desensitized... long story. Pay attention to the food you eat. Turn off the tv, listen to good music, sit in the sunshine, meditate & tell the Morgellons "You must leave my body NOW".

Again, my daughter & I have ONLY used miracle II soap for the past 3 years as shampoo, soap, and for the bath. It is the only soap we use. I don't use anything else now. I learned about it from Gwen Scott (who works with Clifford Carnicom). Chemtrail Illness/Morgellons Update From Gwen Scott, N.D. & Dr. Mike Castle I am truly blessed to have Gwen & Clifford as neighbors here in New Mexico.

In the white light,
~jonsi

[sojii]

Oh, Jonsi, I keep meaning to send that gal a check and order some and give it a try. But I seem to keep getting distracted! (Even under the best of circumstances, I'm a bit of a ditz. It's a good thing I have an understanding boss when it comes to brain farts.)

This is definitely seasonal for me; I'm starting to have the same symptoms I did this time last year when I became symptomatic. I hadn't seen the fiber cacoons or black specks on me since last winter but they're back. They were in my environment but not on me until the last few weeks. When it was close to 100 or more, I had almost no symptoms. That leads me to believe it's something like an insect. Are parasites seasonal? Anyway, I've got to get a move on. I thought I was doing better; apparently I'm not.

[janedoe]

everclear, i drank that once... just once...lol