try doxepin

[sammy]

Originally Posted by janedoe

that was always my problem with meds, when i was on the mental health ones. they play guinea pig with you until you can find one that has more benifits than side effects,. but for every good, there is a bad, i guess.

I started too take doxepin again and it has stopped all of my symptons for now will stay on this it does make you feel tried and out of it but oh well its worth it. sammy

[jonsi]

Hi sammy!

I feel like I repeat myself over and over again (& I don't doubt that you are feeling better right now). But, I never used a pharmaceutical medicine to treat "M" & I am healthy now. Homeopathic/natural medicine works!

Please believe me in that I had "M" symptoms at their worst.

I don't think any prescribed medicine will make you feel better in the long run, so be very careful. These meds might feed the "M" and make you sicker in the long run. If the docs had a med to cure "M" they would recognize this disease. Don't become a guinnea pig....

Buyer beware... don't run to your MD and ask for a prescription. I have a lot of friends on this site & it seems the more scripts they get they sicker they get in the long run. Look at the side affects our friends have posted here!

sammy, I hope I didn't make you mad. I want you to get better. I am a strong advocate for natural/herbal medicine & this is a good thread to express my opinion (again).

In the white light,
~jonsi

[Dzana]

medcs for mental health do not work they just camouflage the matter --morgs deplete your serotonin therefore chemical imbalance caused by it is treated by antidepressants ----------but not cured just give relief for depression ............no way these medcs can remove morgs from the
tissue.....can they kill biofilm as well??? oh pls u pp u should know better and in fact it makes it worse cos in the meantime morgs keep accumulating while u r in a koo koo land believing everything is fine -------- then come off medcs and end up with more plastic skin and worse symptoms

Jonsi I agree
dzana xx

[sammy]

Jonsi. Thanks for all your advise and I listen too everyone and I love someone who see thinks different. you are a true friend and we are all here for one reason too figure out what works for us too get us out of this pure misery. I started over a year ago and much of the info I have recd here has made me feel better. I take lemon and cloves drink a half glass a day 2 teaspons of cloves and lemon water. I take salt baths loaded up with pool salt thank you very much who every thru that out. much cheaper. tea tree oil in shampoo. the white things have left only thing i see is a few small fly things in my tub water. I can remember at christmas they were itching on my face and in my eyes so bad. so thks too all I cant thank everyone enough sammy

[jonsi]

Hey you guys! Your responses made me smile. Thank you for the "thank yous"!!!

I drink water with lemon juice & cloves every day too! A lot of "M" people don't have the lesions. This disease is systemic and treating our gut is a big help. I use col-san too. Colosan - for oxygenating and cleansing the colon - - Health Products Store

Love to all <3

itwl, ~jonsi

[JimDoe]

Originally Posted by Dzana

medcs for mental health do not work they just camouflage the matter --morgs deplete your serotonin therefore chemical imbalance caused by it is treated by antidepressants ----------but not cured just give relief for depression ............no way these medcs can remove morgs from the
tissue.....can they kill biofilm as well??? oh pls u pp u should know better and in fact it makes it worse cos in the meantime morgs keep accumulating while u r in a koo koo land believing everything is fine -------- then come off medcs and end up with more plastic skin and worse symptoms

Jonsi I agree
dzana xx

To Dzana
KooKoo Land, I love it, Well said! I aslo beleive it.

[JimDoe]

Originally Posted by sammy

Jonsi. Thanks for all your advise and I listen too everyone and I love someone who see thinks different. you are a true friend and we are all here for one reason too figure out what works for us too get us out of this pure misery. I started over a year ago and much of the info I have recd here has made me feel better. I take lemon and cloves drink a half glass a day 2 teaspons of cloves and lemon water. I take salt baths loaded up with pool salt thank you very much who every thru that out. much cheaper. tea tree oil in shampoo. the white things have left only thing i see is a few small fly things in my tub water. I can remember at christmas they were itching on my face and in my eyes so bad. so thks too all I cant thank everyone enough sammy

Hi Sammy, I,m glad you found jonsi as a friend, she makes a lot of sense on the herbal meds that I did not really recongnise at first. She,s tipped me off as well to some herbs that help a lot on my scalp and sores. Like cumin instead of garlic,, less stink and works just as well, maybe better for healing. THe small things you see in water may be Thrips, maybe not, try and see if they might be 4 winged after they dry. If so then its most likely thrips, they are tiny. Do you see tiny flying insects much in your home? Keep up with the pool salt, it does drive out the homies. Try 8 lbs. and a two hour soak. You,ll be amazed.
BTW, jonsi won,t tell you anything wrong. Gotta beleive.

[Dzana]

Originally Posted by JimDoe

To Dzana
KooKoo Land, I love it, Well said! I aslo beleive it.

Jim yes I m talking from my personal experience I have been on antidepressants for years off and on, I keep relapsing all the time ------the moment I stop I get severe intestinal and digestion problems ------- took me a while to figure it out - but now whether I m on or off them it is the same which is the proof that my problem is physical in its roots and that depression is secondary......... there needs to be a major breakthrough in how mental health patients r being treated especially my case ---- I m more than ever convinced that (due to the fact that my depression started with severe digestion problems 20 years ago and that acummulation of morgs over that period of time caused fully blown morgs due to severe infestation 2 years ago on top of being given 8 months of antibiotics course) my immunity is destroyed ---------and antidepressants r now making me worse ------ bloody docs do not want to even look into it ------- seems that my body reached peak and wont take antidepressants any more --------- it is serotonin that is being depleted by morgs......then they say it takes time for antidepressants to start working, longer period of time to be taken --------- so I did ...........and was relapsing over and over again over the period of 20 years ---------- docs r monster they need to understand that there is something that is causing depleted serotonin and that is causing me real physical problems ------but they wont admit it they still keep pushing their own ways ...........ppl who cure GI tract get rid of depression as well........ but now after so many years seems that me adding pharmaceutical medcs to my damaged immune system is making it all worse ---------- they r IN BIG BIG DENIAL........I started throwing up when taking antidepressants ----------- WHY THEY WONT LISTEN TO ME??? WHY THEY R TAKING ME FOR AN IDIOT???..............seems that I know the answer I just hoped for them to openly tell the truth ..... but they wont .........docs r becoming like criminals you gotta have Sherlock H. abilities to figure out their agendas --------I wonder who they r treating then?? why such an attitude>>?? these kinds should leave medical field and work in garages repearing the cars.......yet still noone checks on them .... as long as they backing up each other when one of them is wrong noone can suspect their ablities >??? and of course government loves that.....................

[JimDoe]

Originally Posted by Dzana

Jim yes I m talking from my personal experience I have been on antidepressants for years off and on, I keep relapsing all the time ------the moment I stop I get severe intestinal and digestion problems ------- took me a while to figure it out - but now whether I m on or off them it is the same which is the proof that my problem is physical in its roots and that depression is secondary......... there needs to be a major breakthrough in how mental health patients r being treated especially my case ---- I m more than ever convinced that (due to the fact that my depression started with severe digestion problems 20 years ago and that acummulation of morgs over that period of time caused fully blown morgs due to severe infestation 2 years ago on top of being given 8 months of antibiotics course) my immunity is destroyed ---------and antidepressants r now making me worse ------ bloody docs do not want to even look into it ------- seems that my body reached peak and wont take antidepressants any more --------- it is serotonin that is being depleted by morgs......then they say it takes time for antidepressants to start working, longer period of time to be taken --------- so I did ...........and was relapsing over and over again over the period of 20 years ---------- docs r monster they need to understand that there is something that is causing depleted serotonin and that is causing me real physical problems ------but they wont admit it they still keep pushing their own ways ...........ppl who cure GI tract get rid of depression as well........ but now after so many years seems that me adding pharmaceutical medcs to my damaged immune system is making it all worse ---------- they r IN BIG BIG DENIAL........I started throwing up when taking antidepressants ----------- WHY THEY WONT LISTEN TO ME??? WHY THEY R TAKING ME FOR AN IDIOT???..............seems that I know the answer I just hoped for them to openly tell the truth ..... but they wont .........docs r becoming like criminals you gotta have Sherlock H. abilities to figure out their agendas --------I wonder who they r treating then?? why such an attitude>>?? these kinds should leave medical field and work in garages repearing the cars.......yet still noone checks on them .... as long as they backing up each other when one of them is wrong noone can suspect their ablities >??? and of course government loves that.....................

They won,t listen to me either except my primary Doc.But nothing they can do except send you to a specalist. And they are doodoo. I agree. My as well just leave your wallet or purse and just leave!. I hate it.

[Dzana]

I have seen 5 specialists ... first one who took biopsy gave me antibiotics ....... second one added menthol cream added to antibiotics so seems that they suspected something due to my biopsy ---------- in the meantime while i was being referred to third one sort of THE BEST SPECIALIST in LONDON CITY in ROYAL LONDON h. my condition got worse so when i visited Royal L. I was only given cream for dry skin and told to take antipsychotic drugs??? as if it is gonna help my skin ............. I tried and ended up having breathing problems, more numbness , and etc .......... so stopped it.........YA KNOW WOT THE BEST SPECIALIST IN LONDON IS TAKING THE P...
IT IS BEEN OVER A YEAR since i saw any docs as i m trying to help myself with the help of this forum , JO, and similar,,,

went yesterday to see another derm and he said he can only treat me together with derm from Royal London as if he is the best specialist for it??? wot a joke I had to wait so many months just to be told to go back to the one who prescribed psychotic drugs and who also failed to see that my liver function is very high.............if the best specialist r treating patients as such then there is no hope................

AND MY Gp THE LATEST ONE??
LOL I CHANGED MANY ... WHEN HE SAW MY ABNORMAL LIVER TEST HE TOLD ME TO STOP EATING RED MEAT ___ I
SAID TO HIM I DO NOT EAT MEAT AT ALL................. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and they say unemployed ill ppl r taking advantages of system >>> ??how?? look where all money goes>>>?? How can nation be healthy??? look at their wages>>> ????look at the percentage of ppl being unhappy with their services?????? ah yes we r just at the bottom of the all bottoms --------- our voices r unheard.........
when docs become partners in crime in system as this one is -------- we have nowhere to go ---- in system that can punish docs who r willing to raise the voice and stand out -----what is our choice???