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Old May 2nd, 2010, 09:40 AM
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Hello everyone at M-D-R. My wife is "Cynical" here on the board. I have read enough of what the good "doctor" has been claiming to force me to respond. First a little background on myself. I am real biomedical engineer with 23 patents to my name. I have developed several breakthrough products in the medical industry. I have worked with some very big names in the business and some real frauds. After dealing with both for over a quarter century I have developed a knack for quickly identifying both in short order.

This is going to be a long story so if you have something you would rather do here is the Reader's Digest version of my findings. The good doctor is a quack. She might have been a legitimate scientist during the time of her dealings with toxic waste and the EPA but she has strayed into the world of junk science.

Now for the long hand version...

The "Technology"
The product that is being presented is just a heater. When it comes to the creation and conveyance heat onto or into a living organism, be it near or far infra red, heat is heat. Everything thereafter is window dressing aimed only to dazzle the unsuspecting.

To help you understand how these people work their magic one has to become aware of the "placebo" effect and the power of suggestion.

The placebo effect is very, very powerful. In fact it is as powerful as any drug on the planet. What makes it work is the "rapport" or faith you place into a belief or individual. When you are in dire need of help you are vulnerable and as such inadvertently project this . Most people cannot mask their desperation and become easy prey to charlatans. The victim will often unintentionally reinforce statements and claims made by the "practitioner" allowing the practitioner to cue in and anticipate what the victim feels. This courtship is further strengthened by the use of technical terms and jargoneering that regardless of how absurd they might be to one who is schooled in the art, they do fortify the trust and rapport between hustler and patient.
For those of you that are flooding this site with concocted tales of miraculous cures borne of this "heater" you can't for a moment believe that you will be spared the same fate as your fearless leader!
This next chapter is really hard to write as the content is so preposterous that I can barely keep the tears of laughter from shorting out my laptop!

Behind the Technology of MPS Far Infrared (Technology?)
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The base of the MPS products is the handmade diamond fiber panels called "Active Carbon Fibers™". MPS is the only product with this carbon diamond panel technology. The diamond panels are the heating source and conductor; thereby NO metal or wiring is used. Each panel is hand made with white gold & spun diamond fibers. The diamond fibers, when heated, resonate the frequency of the diamond carbon crystal fibers which is made of a higher form of carbon crystal vs. the carbon liquid panels other companies use.
Resonate the frequency? Are you serious? Are you now straying into RIFE territory? What's next? Diamond pancakes and sausage.
This is the single biggest compilation of hype and B.S. I have ever seen and I have met some of the best! My God, this is so outlandish.

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Pure Far-infrared by Active Carbon Fibers™ delivers ultimate soothing warmth throughout your entire body. Each carbon fiber emits bio-genetic waves of far-infrared across the surface of the panels as they get excited with an electric current. It feels soft, relaxing, pleasant, and refreshing, which you might not have experienced from any other heat source yet.
Heat is heat!
Again, heat is heat to a living organism!
All the window dressing in the world can't change good ol' physics.

From the site:
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fibers This site has good info on the products that Dr. S recommends
Dr. Staninger warned us that when using far infrared with fibers in the body you have to be extremely careful with the far infrared equipment that you are using. If you use the wrong far infrared machine you can melt the fibers in your bodies to your tissues or organs since the fibers are made of plastic. We only recommend the MPS equipment that we sell on our website. We would love to sell other saunas that are less expensive but we do not believe that using other equipment is safe for our customers. We only recommend using the MPS if you have fibers
Really now?! Do you, from the depths of your ignorance and depravity really believe that polypropylene, the same polymer used to make fiber optics, is going to melt In vivo?
Now that would be quite a feat wouldn't it? A human being surviving 1700 degrees. Maybe you can explain that on your next youtube clip.

Heaters are heaters and all else is folklore. If these people were real they would file a 510k with the FDA like all the legitimate firms do. Then again it is too late as false claims have already been made and are actionable. This includes goofy claims regarding the opening of spinal columns.
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Old May 2nd, 2010, 10:02 AM
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Touche Mr Cyn
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Old May 2nd, 2010, 10:07 AM
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""All we want are the facts, sir." Joe Friday, Dragnet.

Thanks, Cynical's husband.
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Old May 2nd, 2010, 10:50 PM
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Can you all now keep your party on this thread or do you have to spread out and contaminate all of the other threads? Or maybe you three are running the show and the rest of us can just disappear.. Clap your heels together three times, do the Sally Field's speech and buzz off.
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Old May 3rd, 2010, 04:27 AM
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Lamb,

Since you came onto this thread I don't see why I should not post the truth on every thread about this subject. I don't have an agenda. Never have! Plain and simple if I see someone trying to take advantage of another, making false claims about how their equipment is the only one that will not harm them I am not going to let it stand! period! You don't like it tough luck! I don't care... How many people here have hit hard financial times? There is no way I am going sit by silently and not speak up about the fact that someone is making false claims about safety of other alike products. charging amounts of money that are absurd! Maybe the good Doctor should think about that. If she were not inflating the value of her product my view point of her would be entirely different. I have nothing against far infra-red in the least. I have a problem with false claims made about safety of other competing devices in the name of money. I do not sell anything related to Morgellons. She does. Who has more to lose her or me?

Maybe the good Doctor as you all think she is should start being honest in her pricing and her claims.

I don't care if she is the only one not calling someone DOP what the heck does that have to do with it? Of course she is not going to call anyone that, there is money to be made.

All of you that have a problem with this are the ones that should be ashamed of what you are doing by trying to make us look like the bad guys.....

So if you are going to come here! I am free to post this on anything you have posted on and more if I please.

New members read behind the truth here. We are merely pointing out false claims.

Take what you want from this information but I only have the best interest in preserving the pocket books of the people that are suffering.

Try some of the less expensive protocols that have worked for many on this site that you can buy at your local drugstore. Don't leap right into the hype. People will claim that no one before has gotten better well guess what it is an outright lie. I know of several that I have kept in contact over the last three years that are better. Guess what they did not use one single product that Dr. Staninger sold. Not one!

Maybe they should rename this board the Staninger fan club!

Now call us that state the facts bipolar even though you show signs of multiple personality disorder. You know who you are.
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Old May 3rd, 2010, 06:09 AM
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Oh and Lamb,

I don't recall ever making a personal attact on you. So I do not get why you made one on me. I have a problem with false claims period! Those that keep pushing them on others look suspicious to a few of us. Can not understand why you can not understand that.
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Someone mentioned that there was a keg in the corner...
but my tastes run a bit more continental.
Got any Jagermeister?
And oh, can I have some of that popcorn there? If it wasn't nuked in the microwave, that is. Not too keen on the fake butter stuff.
Don't suppose there's a plate of canapes floating around here anywhere.....?

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Old May 3rd, 2010, 06:56 AM
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Actually skylark,

no fight here!

Just trying to save naive people some of their hard earned money!

If a choice? Jagermeister would suffice but have not had that in many years...
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Someone mentioned that there was a keg in the corner...
but my tastes run a bit more continental.
Got any Jagermeister?
And oh, can I have some of that popcorn there? If it wasn't nuked in the microwave, that is. Not too keen on the fake butter stuff.
Don't suppose there's a plate of canapes floating around here anywhere.....?

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Old May 3rd, 2010, 08:43 AM
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I ca only speak for myself and I am very greatful for someone who saves me what would have been lotsof wasted money. I'm sure out of desperation we have all lost m0ney on many things we have tried.

So, from me, thank you Cynical and Cynical's husband. This empties my mind of far infrared and gives room for more possibly helpful things.


BTW- o a laptop the numbers 1-0 are located at top and alo on letters and numbers on righthand side.

Does anyone know how I can get the letteers to work again. I had to uninstall a wireless keyboard and now my originl keyboard types the numbers where the letters are. this on screen keyboard is slow and tiresome.
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