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Old April 19th, 2010, 12:57 PM
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Gigi graciously supplied me with this link and I think it's so important I'm going to post the article (in a few segments). I am not posting the responses that are attached to the original link. Go directly to Lymebusters to read those.

Chitin is right, treatment successful READ THIS

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Chitin is right, treatment successful READ THIS
Post by nickthebuilder1234 on Aug 12, 2009, 11:00pm

As described above, Chitin is a biological polymer. Very similar to Cellulose, with the exception of the ends of the molecular chain. Chitin is very much involved in this condition, the pathogen we are talking about, is a fungus, possibly a hybrid that is closer to being a microsporidia.

I didn't know much about Chitin or Cellulose before taking up research into morgellons. The information about this pathogen or fungus being cellulose based is bogus. After coming down with the condition myself (not nearly as serious as most) and with no luck treating it with antibiotics/antifungals topical or internal. In fact, like reported, the antibiotics only seemed to damage my system in the long run and allowed the symptoms to increase heavily after or even during the dosages. And from my readings, I wasn't even going to attempt taking this to a dermatologist. I was 25 when this started and had NEVER had such a skin condition in my life, I am in great shape, and I refused to believe that this was normal for skin to become so irritated and inflamed.

I was positive that I traced my exposure to an outdoor area, and soon enough, I found several people including a good friends with the same lesions. That's when I started my research, and being an amateur mycologist seems to have been my lucky advantage.

I am very interested in others trying the method of treatment that I developed, even though we are likely continually exposed on a weekly basis, treating the skin is the first step toward killing the spore producing colonies and therefor stopping the spread of the pathogen in the blood to other areas. I'm NOT selling anything, I'm NOT a physician and what I'm about to tell you will only cost you a couple bucks for a large volume of topical treatment.

The key here is Chitinase. Chitinase is an enzyme used in many biological processes to cleave the glucose bonds of Chitin. It's produced by many fungus as a building block for biological growth, and it's produced by some grains, as a means of defense against spores and fungus. In my case, I extracted Chitinase from several sources, including a Trichoderma fungus and Barley. Obviously for the average person, growing and extracting a enzyme from a fungus is not going to be easy, but I had equally effective results from the Barley Chitinase, and it's much easier to make.

Here is what you need to do... Find a home beer brewing store, and go there is person. Ask them for the most stripped out and unprocessed Barley that they carry, MAKE SURE IT IS BARLEY and not WHEAT, wheat doesn't contain the necessary enzymes. In my case, I think the strain was GR 18 or something to that effect. Most strains should work, but Barley is known to vary in enzyme levels. What your looking for is the most unprocessed, lightest color, Barley grain. They should be able to direct you to something close to that if you give them that description. It can not be roasted or otherwise adulterated barley. You shouldn't need more than a lb to treat the whole body, this should cost around a dollar. If they ask you if you want it milled, you can have this done, but you should then use all the extract that I'm going to describe, as milled barley might lose it's enzyme potency once it's sat after being milled. There might also be benefits to soaking the grain in water for several hours NON MILLED prior to making this extract. I had such good results with the milled barley that I'm not sure how how much better the non milled version of this extract would be.

Directions: Take the milled barley and put it in a plastic bowl. You really only need a half lb to make plenty enough to treat your whole body. Add spring water or distilled water, just enough to wet the grain evenly, and so that they are all saturated and loosely moving around in the water. You can use tap water if you don't have the others, but it's likely that there is a spore count in the water too and it will diminish the life of the enzymes before you even start using them. Now, let the mixture sit for around 4 hours in a cool place, anything under 80 F is fine, you just don't want it basking and rotting in the sun or heat. Next, get a blender and blend the mixture until it's very milky and pulverized. If you don't have a blender, get a pestle or something similar like the end of a metal ice cream scoop and smash the already milled grain until you feel that you have smashed everything a few times over in the contents of the bowl. Now you need a strainer or a piece of screen. Run the mash through the strainer and collect the fluid that results. Shake the mixture up and stir very well before straining so that the milky fluid works well through the screen. Now press the barley through the screen to really juice it. You should put the remaining barley in a piece of cheesecloth or a clean sock with a larger stitch like cheesecloth. Ok, now you have the enzyme/barley mixture finished. If you wanted to try the whole grain approach, soak it just like the milled barley, and you must use a blender with the method, otherwise following the same directions for the milled barley.

To treat yourself you will need to take off any clothing around the area you are treating, or possible just strip totally naked to avoid making a mess of your clothes. Put the solution in a cereal bowl or shallow bowl, put a plastic spoon in it and stir it every time before dipping your fingers in the bowl just enough to get a decent amount of the liquid on the underside of your fingers. It should be slightly pasty, if not, you might want to make it with less water than you used. Paste it over your lesions lightly so that you provide an even coat without pressing it all away from your skin. Let it sit on the area, and re-coat the area as soon as it feel like its starting to dry, which should take several min.

Now, don't be alarmed when you see the area flare up like a horrible allergic reaction, that's the Chitinase cleaving the fungus's chitin in your skin, and you will likely see the same broken vessels that we so commonly see after initial infection, only there will be many many more, and it's likely to sting and prick very notably especially more so if your more heavily infected. Let the remaining chalky residue sit for about an hour, and then go rinse it off or take a shower, or if you want, just leave it there the rest of the day until you do shower, it won't hurt you because it's just barley. You can save any leftover extract in the fridge but it won't keep for much more than a day or two and I would recommend using it fresh for best results.
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One more thing I would like to mention is that I have talked to several of the prominent figured involved with the media's version of what is going on, several of whom are listed on morgellons organizations sites as professional references with credentials such as Dr. or Microbiologists, several of them whom have also been on Fox news. I won't mention names but I do want to say that most of these people are either puppets or they are scared, and they aren't looking for a cure, they are avoiding it. I spent months asking them for their opinion on the issue and it got mo nowhere. One of them in particular even took to personal attacks on myself for simply asking him for images of his SEM (scanning electron microscope) studies. I will tell you, with all confidence, that even those images are all fakes and have nothing to do with the said pathogen. If anything, they took the few crazy people who did scratch themselves bloody and used them to discredit those who have a legitimate fungal infection. All of his images, some of which are listed on a very well known morgellons organizations site, are very real SEM images, but once again, having nothing to do with the said pathogen.

I also might warn you that in my opinion these organizations are a fake front, possibly nothing more than a means to collect statistical data on infected individuals, crude as it is, whomever is running these sites has no intent to do anything more than make you think that they care, when they are really just wasting your time. The only person with valid research at this point, as far as I'm concerned is a man by the name of Clifford Carnicom. Read his studies and you will see the real pathogen at hand. I believe that he may have also been persuaded to stop talking about this issue, as he recently formed an organization to protect the individuals involved and the studies so far compiled.

I am very interested in hearing the results from others, this is one of the only forums that I have posted too. Spread this information, educate yourself, eventually the true information about this pathogen will be too widespread to ignore. I have ideas about which strain of fungus this is but it's likely so unknown that it's barely documented and surely has not been imaged under a microscope and published by anyone but Mr.Carnicom. At this point, the strain doesn't matter, the specifics don't matter, only the cure, only the composition (chitin), like I said microscopy imaging is already documented, naming the strain is nothing but a novelty.

Sorry if I misspelled of omitted a word here and there, it took me long enough to write this and I don't have time or care for perfection in writing, I'm just trying to get a message across. Once again, I have NO MORE SYMPTOMS, my lesions are 100% gone and scars are fading.

Thank you Gigi for providing original link!
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Old April 19th, 2010, 01:39 PM
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2manyfibers (where are you?) and I had a discussion about chintin/chitinase back in Sept 2007. In case you haven't seen these posts the links are here:

Here's where I asked 2manyfibers and Michelle if taking chitinase could perhaps dissolve the Morgllons parasite (assuming it was an arthropod):

How Nutrition Can Effect Morgellons (permalink 15)

This was 2manyfibers answer:

How Nutrition Can Effect Morgellons (permalink 31)

I would like to mention that using barley could be problematic for those who have gluten sensitivity or celiac disease.
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Old April 19th, 2010, 01:48 PM
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thanks for the post....
I'm going to add this to the Enzyme regiment I already use....Incidently, I am now making citrus based enzymes for next to no $ compared to the "name" brand ones online that sell for $75.00 and up a gallon as well(they do dilute to make a large amount). The recipes are easy to find if you do a search here... and also... I have found a enzyme based cleaner that utilizes the same 7 enzymes( but NOT Chitinase!!!) found in the above mentioned products. It is a janitorial supply and dilutes to the same proportions as the other enzyme products (1 part enzyme to 7 parts water)... I ONLY use this as an enviromental "spray" and to clean and disinfect but at about $8.50 a gallon before diluting it is a great product... I don't want to derail this Thread.... but in my experience enzymes are key in recovery of Morgellons.
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Yeah for Chitinase and Barley Gr18b!!!!
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Yes, I think enzymes are key in treating Moregellons and wish I could take them without having reactions (as far as the ones taken internally with meals). I have an allergy to aspergillus mold which most plant based enzymes are made with. I had a terrible allergic response to one my allergist prescribed for me. Until that happened and I did a little research he did not realize that was how these enzymes are cultured. So even the ones which are found in bottles for cleaning leave me wondering if I should try them, which is why Xib I have not used your bath which sounds wonderful if allergies are not a problem for others (as they have been for me). Maybe the homemade enzymes would be better as at least aspergillus would not be the way they are grown.
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TCM, this treatment is external. You have an allergy to using this externally?
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Gluten can cause problems both internally and externally. Just like some who are allergic to corn cannot use cornstarch powder. It might not be problematic for all, but I think it's good to be aware that it might be if gluten sensitive or one has celiac disease. Celiac disease is not exactly an allergy BTW although to my knowledge I don't have that but seem better off weight wise staying away from gluten grains. I have never been tested though.
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The barley skin treatment from Nick, I found good. AFter a few treatments, I wished I could get the chitinase to reach further under the skin. It's great for drying up lesions.

Somewhere, we also looked at food and chitinase. Green bananas is a source.

Another point of interest is that elevated chitinase levels in humans, can sometimes be an indicator of a tumorous growth. Why would our bodies produce more chitinase, if the pathogen it was trying to kill wasn't primarily made of chitin (ie arthropod or fungi or both!)

I mean, our bodies don't naturally use or produce chitin, so when we release chitinase, it seems logical that its trying to get rid of a chitin based entity.

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I concur with you TCM,

I can not use topical things that contain wheat protein AKA A lot of shampoos and conditioners. I have to read every label. My daughter can not use anything with cornstarch in it.

I also do better weight wise when I avoid wheat products but for me wheat does not make me lose weight like Celiacs sprue can. Instead it makes be bloat and gain weight especially in the stomach region. I can avoid wheat for just a week and my stomach looks flatter. Very hard to do though I love pasta I did not show intolerance to gluten but not sure it was an adequate panel I had done. I know there are more accurate test available then what I had done years ago. I did show allergic to bakers yeast. I also was allergic to Oats and some legumes like kidney beans of all things. I did go wheat free all last summer and was eating Rice pasta which has come a long way but very expensive and rice is one the gm foods so I kind of worried about whether or not the source was or not.

It would have been so much easier if I were raised not eating pasta then maybe I would not crave it as much. We were raised in a time where cereal became breakfast replacing eggs and fast food popped up on every corner.

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Gluten can cause problems both internally and externally. Just like some who are allergic to corn cannot use cornstarch powder. It might not be problematic for all, but I think it's good to be aware that it might be if gluten sensitive or one has celiac disease. Celiac disease is not exactly an allergy BTW although to my knowledge I don't have that but seem better off weight wise staying away from gluten grains. I have never been tested though.
But back to subject though wonder what the difference is between the bakers yeast and brewers yeast?

Guess a test spot like when you use dye would be in order. Interesting subject. I have had good results with papaya enzymes topically.
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Hi there Cyn,

I really like the Tinkyada brand of rice pasta. They have organic pasta too. It comes from Canada and I think the Canadians are pretty reliable sources of GF food. Of course it takes some time to adjust, but I notice that pasta dinners don't sit in my stomach like they used to. You're right though. It is expensive though to cut cost from the health food store I buy a case through Amazon. Lately though prices have really risen on nearly all GF foods. Thanks to the falling dollar.

I am allergic to bakers yeast too and now eat yeast free GF bread. I don't eat that much bread anyway and never have as eating wheat bread in the past always made me gain weight. In all I am happy to not eat wheat, but it does make dining out a real bear. That part is hard.

There is now a genetic test which indicates a person could have the potential to be celiac. Some can have celiac and be asymptomatic. I sometimes suspect that I could have the skin version of it. I am thinking about doing the test, but as it is expensive still thinking...If interested pm me and I will be glad to send you information about it.

I think there is a lot of malt in Brewers yeast. I had a huge reaction to that years ago when following advice in books on nutrition. I tried using it to be healthier and get all my B vitamins naturally. What a mistake. Anyway, malt also has gluten in it, a big no no for GF.

I have never had problems with papaya or pineapple nor with the papain or bromelain enzymes. How are you using the papaya enzymes topically? I would be interested to hear.

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