Is Staninger a quack?"

[ChatCat]

Hi all,

Dr. Staninger is not a quack at all.

I am alive because of her knowledge and care. If you want to recover from Morgellons she will help you. She has helped many to recover and I am almost completely recovered within 4 mo. of Dr. S helping me.

I created this topic for those who want to debate or carry on in a different direction other than supportive regarding Dr. Staninger's protcol, so will you please do it here.

This is for the sake of those who are ill and are not helped by the debative comments.

Thanks so much,

ox, cc

[janedoe]

i never called her a quack, i am calling into question her ethics..im not the one calling myself a doctor when im not

[fracty]

In the other thread janeDoe accused me of being someone called Jen and also someone somehow connected with Dr S. She said Jen has an email with a name similar to fracty. If Jane's comments are true then we all should be able to write this person who is supposedly me, directly.

JaneDoe,
I told you how to post your emails, please reread my comment from the other thread. It is below.

Either on this thread or another one Jane you are going to need to post these "emails" you are referring to now that you've made an accusation against me.

Also, I want to know who this "Jen" is that you are saying is me, i.e., where she works, what her title is, etc. And how her name is "similar" to mine so she must be me.

For the record, I do not have any connection w Dr s, but if I did I would not be shy to say so. In any case, I have repeatedly mentioned ways to get the products she uses off the Internet from the individual manufacturers.

So go ahead and post these emails you are referring to so we can all see what you are talking about . I will tell you how to post them. Put your cursor in the email. Hold down the "Control" button and hit the letter 'a." Keep holding down the control button and hit the letter "c." Then move your cursor into the box for posting on this site. Hold down the "Control" button and hit the letter "v." That will let all of us see exactly what you are referring to.
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[janedoe]

that doesnt work, or im doing it wrong, what is an email address for this site?
let me ask like this.. im in gmail account.. i get an email... how to i get THAT email from my gmail to this site? how can i forward an email here?

[fracty]

Well, you cant forward an email and make it post on the bulletin board. But there is another way to do it. But as far as the first way, if you accidentally do not keep holding down the control button it will not work. so you might try that again.

Otherwise, you can do this:

1. Put the cursor (you probably know what I mean, but just in case, I mean that little bar that clicks where you are going to type) - put it in the body (the middle of the email)

2. Right- click your mouse and a drop down menu will appear.

3. Select "Select All." some systems might have a slightly different wording. Eveything wil have blue over it meaning it was selected.

4. Keep the cursor right where it is and right-click your mouse again. Hit "copy."

5. Go to the post reply box here and put your cursor in the box like you are about to type. Then right click again and hit "paste.

Your text will then be in this reply box so you can just hit "submit reply" and then make a separate post if you have comments about hte email. That way we can tell which part is the email and which part is from you.

[Enviro Girl]

Hi Chat C!

I haven't been paying much attention here, I hope you didn't mean me...I meant no harm to Dr. Staninger ever, I applaud and appreciate anyone helping or supporting Morgies. Especially those that fought to help us for years and years now. I've read some very intelligently-written work from her.

I thought I saw on here she had 3 assassination attempts (?), so that means to me that you're pushing The Bad Guys' buttons - God Bless and Keep Safe anyone who tries to help Morgies amidst this evil ugliness!

CC, I totally dug how you gave a shout out to Overman's Healthy Choices in one of your posts as them being another protocol you heard of working.

I thought that was waaaay beyond the call of awesome of you!!!

I will say, that was too much money for me to spend. Protocol takes a long time, it sounds like from others on here. CC, I've seen in Doc Staninger's own web-writings that she has folks stationed on the major websites, reporting back to her. I thought that was kind of weird. (Do you know why?)

And it kind of seemed in the post I read, maybe out to bash any protocol that wasn't ONLY hers.

I don't really think it's necessary to act like you are the *only* safe protocol. Unless you are the doctor providing that specific other protocol, you don't know another doctor's research and findings, to be writing on their protocols. Let's keep our eyes on own papers and not worry about what our neighbor is doing!

I've seen other treatment providers that have given a lot of time and say they lost of a LOT of money over the years - I don't think Morgies Patients should have to make their money lost back for them in continual, high-priced treatments and protocols.

No offense, Chat, I appreciated your props, sincerely. No one should be bashing another's protocol or ways to get better from this nightmare unless they tried it, followed it to a T and it failed. Then speak on it w/facts only, to save others time, hope and money.

[fracty]

She was talking about me and Jane because we got off topic and onto something not very healing. I completely agree with what ChatCat said about moving it here.

So, this is a good spot for jane to post those emails. If it really was me, it is good for everyone to know. But actually, it is not me. So I'm sure once she posts what she is talking about we can check it and it will be obvious this is someone else she is referring to.

[chewtoyofthegods]

Originally Posted by janedoe

i never called her a quack, i am calling into question her ethics..im not the one calling myself a doctor when im not

I am having a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that
someone is having an issue with "someone" calling themselves
"doctor". Doctor only means "teacher". [L. "doctoris"/"docere"]

Not only is she "teaching"...she also holds an advanced research
degree. [PhD]. Doctorate...level qualifications...rate the honorific "Doctor".

Every make the gaff of addressing a PhD level engineer in a public
setting as "Mr. Smith" instead of Dr. Smith? Don't. feathers get badly
ruffled. Quick lessons in company etiquette in the "bosses" office follow.
Yes, the offended one held a PhD in some flavor of advanced mathematics..
and yes..he is to be introduced as "Dr." Smith.

One wonders why all the Naturopaths who call themselves "doctor" are
not offensive to you? The whole "N.D." thing.
They are not trained to the M.D. level either..
not in the slightest..yet..they call themselves "doctor".
..and it seems, that is acceptable to the AMA..so long as they do not
refer to themselves as "physicians" or "medical doctors".
..fair enough.

The day that Dr. Hildy starts calling herself a "Medical Doctor" [M.D.]
without credentials to support it..is the day you might have a point.

______

thanks for setting up a separate thread for the
QUACKWATCH folks to romp in. Mixing all the "spy vs spy"
stuff in with the Dr Hildy protocol stuff was getting very..
disorienting..shall we say..

..as for some aspects of her protocol being "expensive"..[FIR saunas..etc]
well...compared to what? I see an m.d...within minutes he's blathering
about me needing to spend tens of thousands of dollars for MRI's/CAT/PET
scans needed to confirm his flash diagnosis of "MS"...[the aches and
pains you see..diagnosis based on NOTHING. "dr" didn't even complete
a basic physical..once he determined that I had no insurance to be
milked..he just wandered off..[why would one NEED an insurance policy for a $200 dollar
physical?..]
Answer: he's SCAMMING the insurance companies.
He's been doing the doctor game for 38 years. What has he learned in
all those years? Fraud tactics.

Expense is relative. For some, a Bently/Rolls [if they still make those]
is no more expensive relative to their income..than my Corolla is to me.
Can't afford the Dima/Sauna..? The "pad" is reasonable. Not "cheap", at
$350..but worth it.
I am startled by the cost of all the "creams" and whatnot at her site[s].
$25.00 for 2 oz jars of "skin cream" just is not in my budget. But
even at that..the 2 oz free trial jar of "purple gel" did me more good than the
75 dollar tube of steroid cream that was PRESCRIBED.. expensive and utterly
useless..or worse..
.
**personally..I don't care if Dr Hildy calls herself "Cleopatra"..or the
"Queen of France"..so long as her ideas/theories/protocols yield
positive results.

..the combined efforts of all those "real doctors" [so called..you know...the
ones with M.D. on their sheepskin vs the PhD] have been a negative
integer...far less than helpful..in fact..sabotaging my efforts to get well..
and writing off all my troubles as being "imaginary"..in need of mind
altering [and very expensive] medication. Hell does not burn hot enough for such as these.

..I KNOW who the REALQUACKS are. Most of the snake oil these days
requires a prescription..from the drug dealer..umm..."physician".


[/rant..before I REALLY get riled up..

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[tcmgpt13]

Not sure what you should call someone who appears to have graduated from a school which had no accreditation and was only licensed to exist as a school. This is the same type of licensing which would be required for a barber school, beauty college, auto mechanics etc. In academic circles this unaccredited degree from an unaccredited college would not be seen valid. Holding an advanced degree from an this type of school would not entitle such a degree holder to the title of doctor, honorary or otherwise.

[KiraErikson]

I applaud anyone who genuinely thinks they have ways to treat Morgellons and wishes to share this with the public.

That said, I'm not sure if Dr. Staninger is the one who thinks Opaline Dry Oxy treats Morgellons -- maybe it does for someone. However, I've tried it 4 times, and each time it made my Morgellons spread explosively. This was not a herxing affect, this was a strenghtening of the Morgellons.

I seriously recommend one never take this product. Just as I recommend no one take steroids to treat Morgellons.