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Old April 7th, 2010, 11:22 AM
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Default Did you take Prescribed Anti-Parasitics ?

I just started taking ALBENDAZOLE 7 days ago.



I wanted to take it 5 years ago but the Drs would not give it to me without a positive stool sample.I did not want to waste my time or money. I saw the parasites, I didn't need a Test. I found a Dr that Believes me and gave to the prescription finally.




I thought I would ask this question in one thread since it's hard to keep up with everyones journey.This is Prescribed Medicine not Herbal.
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Old April 7th, 2010, 11:26 AM
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Hi there Bee,

Yes, I did take albendazole. My doctor prescribed it for use over five days. I did not see any parasites though, so even though he had given me two refills he did not have me use it again. The ivermectin I used at a different time did move some of the parasites out and I could see them. I think though that knowing how to use the medications to best effect was lacking as far as what my doctor told me or I knew. That might have been why I did not see anything worth reporting as far as albendazole use. Are you having some effect from its use? I hope it does work for you.
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Old April 7th, 2010, 08:24 PM
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Default Ivermectin and Rifampicin

I'm taking 48 mg of Ivermectin and 150 mg of Rifampicin DAILY. I've been doing this for a few months (with an occasional break of a few days). This amount of medication is supposed to be a potentially lethal dose taken just a couple of times in one week.

I regard what I'm doing as chemotherapy. It worked beautifully for some time. (Also, I'm taking Bactrim daily too.) A couple of days ago I noticed the parasites seem to be expanding to new locations all over my body. I'm afraid that the parasites are becoming resistant. However, the jury is still out as my original 6x6 inch lesion on my left leg is 95% gone -- although a new one developed in approx. the same place on my right leg two months ago -- and it's only about 50% gone.

I don't know if the lesion on my right leg was there from the same time the left leg was infected, and merely surfaced a couple of months ago due to the drugs. I had mosquito bites on both legs originally, and believe I got the Morgellons when a crop plane dumped some type of pesticide on my head. I then scratched my scalp and both legs where I had mosquito bites (and they were mosquito bites as I didn't scratch 3 other bites on my leg that I got at the same time as the two bites I did scratch, and the non scratched bites resolved normally like mosquito bites). The scratching allowed the Morgellons to get into my bloodstream, where it remains.

Before, when the left leg lesion was healing, some of the morgies appeared to break off from the main lesion and reestablish themselves near the original lesion where they hoped to be unmolested. I found that soon the secondary morgie colony was wiped out as it never was strongly established. Thus, when I recently started getting several secondary colonies on other parts of my bodies (about the size of a pinhead), I wasn't concerned.

However, as of today, those pinhead colonies are expanding rather than disappearing -- so now I'm very concerned about potential drug resistance by the morgies. Starting tomorrow, I'm going off the rifampicin for awhile.

All in all, the more drugs, the heavier the dose (as long as you can tolerate it) the better -- that's my philosophy. I'm told that leprosy drugs, and malaria drugs also work on morgellons -- hence the use or Rifampicin which worked like gangbusters the first week -- it was thrilling.

If my theories work out and I get entirely clear of this thing -- I'll let everyone know. The next couple of weeks will let me know if the new secondary colonies will be wiped out again. Meanwhile, my left and right leg lesions should just look like scattered purple bruises in two weeks if they continue to clear at the same rate.
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Old April 7th, 2010, 08:51 PM
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Default What you are seeing is stuff that was ALREADY there, just not showing,

As I have said before the lesions are there already, under the skin and waiting, for what I do not know, BUT what started my second fight with this was a really severe burn that had my skin slide off, instantly the colonies on that arm showed within a couple of days the other arm IN THE EXACT places as the other are, SYSTEMIC DISEASE! If you do kill them without killing you I will be very happy for you, my guess long ago is this is some relation to leprosy.

There was a point that I found a leper painting and the lesions on the face were in the same places as ours, herpies, leprocy.... viral, bacterial, fungal, bet on these items but nobody knows yet.

I tried to get a leprocy test and there are none to be had easily, why is that when we have leprocy here AND we have a huge amount of illegal immigrants that come from a country with HIGH amounts of leprosy.

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Old April 7th, 2010, 10:23 PM
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I've only taken one pharmaceutical medicine to ward off the "M".

Before I knew what I had I asked an emergency doc for Zpac cuz he offered anything I wanted... it didn't help.

Homeopathic/natural medicine is what works for me.

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Old April 8th, 2010, 12:50 AM
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I took the Zpac when I first got this and it did not help me either. But many of the other antibiotics did. (Zpac is also an antibiotic.)

I also took antiparasitics,.. Vermox mainly for weeks and weeks... mabye i took it for 2 months or so. It absolutely helped, but I felt the antibiotics helped more. ONe thing about timing and antiparasitics/antihelmitics most are only effective against certain stages of the worm. So if you can get it early and get rid of them you are much better off. A lot of them cannot get at the bigger, older worms.
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Old April 9th, 2010, 10:16 AM
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Anyone else ?


It's only been 9 days on albendazole. My complexion is worse, but that might be good thing ?
I suspect these pills might be Stale ! They were special order. I had to wait a week to pick them up. The directions say to crush or chew them. I may break a tooth ! Even with my kitchen mallot they are hard to crush.
I will get the next prescription somewhere else.


In case anyone is wondering, I'm going to wait to shock myself with the dog collar.
I want to know what kills it.If I can.
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Old April 9th, 2010, 10:27 AM
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Wow, Bee, my prescription for albendazole did not say anything like that (crushing or chewing). I wonder if that's why I did not notice anything? Also my use was only for five days (don't know why the doctor prescribed that length of time for use). I got mine through Walgreens and there was no prolonged wait. I think I picked it up the same day or the next day (can't remember, but I know it was not a long wait).
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Old April 9th, 2010, 10:56 AM
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Yeah TCM that wasn't long enough. I think I read up to 6 months. Mine is for 28 days. I might ask for more. The directions say to eat with a fatty meal and some researchers say to drink grapefruit juice with it to carry it to the liver better. I do that every other day. Cause again there is contradictory info on that.

I'm a little surprised, but not really, that more people have not taken prescription anti-parasite meds. That's why I decided to try this route.
To many regular members not getting much better, internally.
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Old April 9th, 2010, 11:40 AM
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I agree Bee, too many people have not used athelmintics. Unfortunately focus has been on the fibers and not looking for parasites in what little research has been done. I don't know what happened to Dr. Harvey, but he was the only researcher who seemed to find any parasites. In those he tested with Morgs symptoms he said it was about 50% who had parasites he could find.

This is why there is a big question in my mind about all the more recently introduced from third world countries parasites which might not normally be tested for in patients who have not traveled outside the US. This is why I was startled to learn that at least one doctor in FL was testing for parasites outside the usual paradigm of US parasitic infections. Hallelujah! I think the parasites legal immigrants and illegal aliens are bringing into the country is being hushed up by those who have a lot to gain by not trying to keep this under control through denying entry to those who have serious illnesses, including parasite infections. This is why I am convinced that many in power are more concerned with getting votes than they are about the health of their own citizens. This attitude seems pervasive across the political spectrum.

From kmar's post:

Dr. Uppal -(she spoke at Austin Conference)

"Patients with Morgellonfs disease complain of symptoms of crawling sensation, skin lesions and fiber like organisms coming out of their skin, scalp and bowel. There is cross reaction seen with tests for filarial, schistosoma and strongyloides in certain patients. The filariform symptoms resolved with the administration of DEC. Hence, we conclude the DEC may be used in certain patients suffering with certain symptoms of Morgellon's Disease."

I wonder if every patient who tested positive for schistosomiasis traveled to an area of the world where this is a parasitic problem or if this disease has been imported into the fresh waters of our own country from nearly uncontrolled entry of infected people into the US. This has not been a US problem in the past.

Division of Parasitic Diseases - Schistosomiasis Fact Sheet
In what areas of the world does schistosomiasis occur?

  • Africa: all freshwater in southern and sub-Saharan Africa–including the great lakes and rivers as well as smaller bodies of water–is considered to be at risk for schistosomiasis transmission. Transmission also occurs in the Nile River valley in Egypt.
  • South America: including Brazil, Suriname, Venezuela
  • Caribbean: Antigua, Dominican Republic, Guadeloupe, Martinique, Montserrat, Saint Lucia (risk is low)
  • The Middle East: Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Yemen
  • Southern China
  • Southeast Asia: Philippines, Laos, Cambodia, central Indonesia, Mekong delta
Filarial parasites are also not common to the US, so again did every patient this doctor saw travel overseas or has this parasite been imported to our shores. Is this why the silence from the CDC has been so prolonged?

The reason we now have Chagas disease in the US is because it was introduced from outside the country. It entered the blood supply through infected people making blood donations. It infected others this way until the powers that be finally found out how to test for it and tried more assiduously to screen donors. It can also be passed by those working in restaurants.

Chagas Disease

Ancient Parasites

Chagas' is an insect-borne disease that today kills some 43,000 people annually in the Americas. It is transmitted by several members of the reduviid family, popularly known as kissing bugs. Fond of hiding in the crevices of poorly built walls, they emerge at night to seek blood. Almost any mammal will do, from guinea pigs to humans. Lured by body heat, the insects crawl onto sleepers' faces and quench their thirst, defecating as they drink. The waste is saturated with T. cruzi, and people who scratch or rub a bite risk sweeping the feces into the sore, or into their mouths or eyes. Once inside the human body, the tiny single-celled parasites swiftly spread to local Iymph nodes, often triggering an acute infection. But the most serious trouble generally comes two decades or so later, when the tiny invaders have had time to storm nerve cells. More than a quarter of T. crust victims will develop severe cardiac disorders, often culminating in death: 1 in 17 will develop megacolon or megaesophagus.

Today most physicians view T. crust as a parasite of Latin America, where it thrives in villages of mud-brick houses. But as Reinhard points out, it is no stranger to North America. While the rancher's mummy is the oldest known case of T. cruzi in the United States, it is certainly not the only one. Medical authorities estimate that as many as 370,000 Latin American immigrants are infected. Moreover, physicians have reported several homegrown cases of Chagas' disease in the southern United States, a region that is home to at least 17 species and subspecies of kissing bugs. In Texas alone, state epidemiologists have gathered records on at least six endemic cases, the most recent diagnosed just last year. And this probably represents only a small fraction of actual cases. Although a survey conducted in Texas in the late 1970s revealed the protozoan swimming in the blood of 2.4 percent of 500 longtime residents living in the Rio Grande Valley, Chagas' disease is frequently overlooked when physicians diagnose heart disorders.

Moreover, T. cruzi is a parasite with a future in the United States. Epidemiologists are particularly concerned about bloodborne transmission. But a few researchers wonder about the potential breeding ground for T. crust in transient communities known as colonial that have sprung up along the southern borders of Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona. There, kissing bugs fly into the makeshift houses through open unscreened windows. Inside they find walls riddled with the cracks and crevices they love. "Every year," says Kate Hendricks, an epidemiologist at the Texas Department of Health, "we try to recruit offficers from the Epidemic Intelligence Service of the Centers for Disease Control, and I tell them I'd like them to work on Chagas' disease, but I've never gotten one to do it."
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