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Old March 15th, 2010, 05:03 PM
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As everyone here knows, except new people, I am a firm believer in things that make this invader squirm. The problem for most people is they want to see this thing go away right NOW, to get it off them. i do not blame them at all, there is a slight problem with this in most cases, that is long term healing results will suffer. There is reason for my very aggressive attack on this invader, rather than be afflicted with such a horror it would have been better to have expired. LUCKY ME life had dealt several severe blows to me before the ultimate strike (this disease going full blown). I decided to use anything and everything that others were talking about in mass, the list is HUGE and very expensive, intravenous doctor treatments such as EDTA, hydrogen peroxide, minerals and vitamins, the newest this and that. Hyperbaric treatments, you name it I have done most of it. Then natural, food, vitamins, herbal, chemical, snake poison, extracts, salves, you name it I had the money to do it, I used near all my money and ALL OF MY TIME thinking and researching, talking to others, hidden away in my home. It was not important to me that I drove these things out with these items, when they came out I knew this is the right way to do it, NOW I can get at them easily, expose more of them and expose them all the way, so my attempt to kill them was a good and successful attempt, there was no fear of death. There are many here that feel if these things show that they are spreading, they are not, they were there a long time now, the bigger they are, the longer they were there.

The vein that feeds the big ones was once a tiny capillary, now its a vein,

Getting to the point, that is GSE, internally and externally to make life severely uncomfortable for our little friends, the lesions along with severe itching really are the unbearable situations, these are the ones that saps us of our self esteem and sanity.

To get on with it, at one time I used this GSE in my mouth FULL STRENGTH, that is not such a good idea, torture is the word for it. I kept on thinking the pain would subside when the invader was in check, it is more painful than you can imagine. Still I used it on the top of the head and endured until there was nothing there but real skin. REAL SKIN is not bothered by GSE full strength. I can rub it all over my chrome dome and not one little tiny problem. There are certain parts of the body I will treat with GSE that is the back of the neck, the bottom of the spine leading into the crack of the arse, lower legs and knees, arms and hands.

If I were to do it again I would dilute and work my way up to full strength. I would also work them until they become bothered, PINK SPOTS ON THE SKIN then back off until skin regains color then begin again. This is one strong Morgy destroyer.

I just started to take the pills internally, internal use come with even more rules for me, especially at first. There is a bit of like a hiatel hernia burn and the roof of the moth is also burning a bit. That is great, I like it, a little discomfort for me means ALOT of discomfort for them.

Since I acquired this in 1972 my lymph glands in the groin have been enlarged, some times to the point they were painful, they have lately shrunk to also a size where you can not find them easily.

GSE don't leave home without it. GSE liquid comes in small or BIG bottles, the big bottles (quart) can be had for $50. There are also pills, but the same effect can be had easily with drops, I would suggest not being an idiot thinking if a little is good alot is better, the only time alot is better in this case is when the flesh is really flesh again. If you use this like I do, remember, strait GSE on the head will send you to the hospital with unbearable pain crying about the caustic burning fluid. that is not the case, The GSE can be used easily on the head when the fake skin is GONE. I found the brown spots that formed on my head are almost all GONE, yeeeeah! The skin on the head is not greasy and squishy feeling either, it is clear and tight to my head, there is no longer any bio film. I am sure in the long run keeping your head clear of as much infestation as you can will only help your brain stay clear also.

Remember, your skin is not fluid proof it is like a sponge, what you put on the skin will be absorbed. I am so glad that I found the posts on GSE, the PEOPLE that spoke well of it helped save my life.
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Old March 15th, 2010, 09:22 PM
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In the last couple of days I have been taking the GSE pills, these pills have started a burning type of reaction that has lasted 2 days now but it is subsiding. Like I said before if there is NO reaction with what your using it may not be worth too much fighting this malady, then again be cautious in any type of treatment. There is also another herbal type concoction that also works and always gives me a reaction, that is

Quercetin & Bromelain Complex - Balances Histamine Levels Naturally - Quercetin & Bromelain Complex

Here is a site that sells GSE inexpensivly this bottle will last you at least 6 months with pretty heavy use.

Grapefruit Seed Extract Frequently Asked Questions
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Old March 16th, 2010, 12:58 PM
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Hi BarO,

Great thread. Thanks for all the info and help that you have given me regarding this discovery you have made.

I am using GSE and I think you are on the right track with this. Morg definately doesn't like GSE.
My main problem with activity is in my left ear and in the middle ear. I got vertigo really bad the first night I sleep on my MPS FIR pad. I used it right under my head and woke up with vertigo. Though this was uncomfortable, I knew that it was breaking down Morg in my head.
I still have alot of vibrating and I am trying to use GSE in that ear. Boy, you really have to build up slowly esp. in the ear.
Since reading your post I am now using GSE in my shampoo and may put more on my scalp and slowly build up.

Question: Do you need to use Hydrogen Peroxide also? Or does that just show you where Morg is hiding?

I am doing great with the MPS sauna and Dr. S's protocol. Just looking for ways to help the body fight this monster.
You are right, it takes time and as we do things that Morg hates, the die off symptoms get worse before things get better.

Thanks again for all of you help, cc
P.S. any suggestions for Morg in the eyes? I have a tube shaped Morg behind my iris that is visible with a UV light.
I think that eventually the sauna will break that up also.
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Old March 16th, 2010, 02:29 PM
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Chat Cat, I see Swansons Vitamins has an eye cup to use with Himalayan Crystal Salt. I like the shampoo & conditioner.
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Old March 16th, 2010, 02:50 PM
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I am glad you are taking it slow, the vertigo will get worse before it gets better, but the tone will die down to nothing after awhile, just try ro use your mind to add some flute and a violin to it for awhile, LOL i know it can be a real pain. There was times when I woke up and it actually sounded like an alarm, not at all NOW.

The trick with the 35% hydrogen peroxide is to use it in when your breaking from the GSE. Some times the GSE will bring on a ear ache, back off right then, the ear ache will end at some point and then you will relize for sure that the monster is under at least some form of control. Use the 35% peroxide whenever the itching is the worst, and in between the GSE use. You can and should do the outside ears alternatly, the Hydrogen peroxide can hurt from a little to alot on the outside of the ear, on the inside not so bad UNLESS you have treated the inside of the ear untill it is raw, try to keep from doing this. if the ear becomes crusty or raw use antibiotic cream or Desitin to heal it up, then start again. The hydrogen peroxide will work inside the ear for a long long time you will hear bubbling, it kinda tickles actually that is unless its raw in there, then ir can hurt. my tolerence for pain is very high now, very little bothers me so much I would quit the use if I knew it did work.

i am thinking the use of the GSE in shampoo is a waste of good grapefruit, as it will be rinces out, put in a spray bottle , make it pretty strong and spray skin and hair after washing would be much more benaficial. I actually take a little GSE, with practice you will find the right amount so you don't feel sticky, full strength and rub it on arms and lower legs, then add drops of water to my hands to spread it easily.

When using on the outside AND behind of the ears, you may uncover underskin involvment, let it heal over then go after it again, send it back to hell slowly, ladies I am sure this approach will suit you better than laying waste to your skin. You will easily see that you have uncovered the abnormal, the doctor may not think so but we do know how they th....... I can't say it, doctors and think in the same sentence.

The biggest thing I can stress is not to go gung ho start slowly and reap the rewards. maybe you can find some things to add to this protocol.

Areas of great interest for the GSE, underarm, lower legs, lower arms, hands, ears, behind knees, tailbone down into the crack of the arse, back of the neck up into the bottom of the hairline, these are pest central. I would say all the way down the spine but it is hard to get to. They are in the spinal fluid I am sure so anything to put a bad tast in their little, hmmmmm, their little what, that remains to be seen.

thanks for the question it means that this post does not fall on deaf ears. Over time you will see it works!!

Last but not least, silver solution I use SOVERIGN SILVER , get it online or at a health food store, it is about 12 dollars, 10 PPM and seems to do the job very well.

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Old March 20th, 2010, 08:25 PM
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Baraka,

When you talk about the "big ones", do you really think that they have been in the body for a long time? What would you think about time - 5yr. or 10yr?
Of course your reply would include the "how big is the "being".

And have you seen the big vein? All I see are the medium veins in my arms.

And last one, in your opinion, do you think the continues attacks will eventually kill a very big worm/bug/etc.?

Sorry for all my questions, but I really would like to know.

Thanks, Hella

Please do not think I am being funny or making fun of.

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Old March 22nd, 2010, 12:02 AM
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I find the older ones (the BIG ones) much harder to get rid of.

I put straight IONIC ZINC on the lesions and it has made all the difference (in a tincture bottle - available at any health food/vitamin store) - or I open up the zinc capsules and put the powder directly on the wounds.

Zinc oxide creams will help but IMO are not strong enough. You might as well use the zinc full strength.

It burns like crazy but it dissolves the gunk in the lesions.

I still push on the area around the lesion, feeling for the swelling, find the hardest part and push on it really hard, or squeeze it really hard. The "head" of the creature is within an inch of the lesion, and IMO will not necessarily die just because the lesion heals up. It can still be laying there underneath, feeding on the blood.

You must kill this "being" which is 3 to 4 inches long, the oldest ones being the longest.

It has many characteristics of a nematode, with differences too.

Has anyone else noticed these things like the forearms especially? (that is common in nematode infections, by the way) -
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 01:01 AM
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HELLALONE, I do not know gestation period, but, the bright red bleeding spots were under my skin 20 years ago. I picked at them to see what was under the tiny unremarkable spots as I watched my whole body like a hawk since this happened to me, 38 years ago in KOREA. I feel that so far I am the only one that actually knows when the real onset started. I was too perfect a human to have so many different maladys attack all at once at such a young age without ever really being ill before, or haveing ANY of the new problems. It is my contention that this is progressive. The reason mine became so ruthless was 5 years of doctors drugs, STEROIDS being the real culprit. I got to the point that I had developed one of the worst cases of rosacia I have seen, that is when I stopped the drugs. The doctor assured me these problems I was having was NOT mitigated by STEROIDS, he laughted at me.

I stoped steroids and antibiotics and that is when the stuff hit the fan, so I am assuming the steroids kept the lesions subdued untill the moment I stopped them, then my immune responce surfaced them, as the body finally realized, it was do or die time. The body went haywire inside and out.


If you look at my pictures again and read them very well, you will see these are blood fed tumors. These are NOT worms or seperate living items. I think these things make fluids that they use to control our bodys organs or they just invade the internal organs and ruin their funtion.

I have literally taken a set of mechanics pliers and riped pices of this tumor out. It is so strong and connected so well with those hooks that it is litterally impossible to pull the whole thing out.

I have dug these out, to the bottom of the strang material, where normal flesh once again shows, hurt is not the word for it.

What I am trying to say is the formation is NOT a worms head with eyes, one with 2 eyes one with three eyes one with 4 eyes, when you see the red spots on the flesh, that is veins that were once small cappilarys that fed the skin.

Look in my pictures and find the one shot that shows two white spots with yellow right in their centers. This one shot was after treating the LESION/TUMOR with Hydrogen peroxide 35%, what you can see in the picture is the fact that red blood flow has stopped completly, BUT BUT BUT the yellow goo still flows, how, how has the red cells been stopped but the yellow fluid still flows.

The other thing it shows is once I stopped the flow of red blood you do not see it under the white stain of the lesion you only see the center feed line oozing yellow fluid DIRECTLY in the center. the LESION/TUMOR grows outward from the center blood feed, when you see two together, these two will connect and spread much larger. If you READ my posts with the pictures you may start to see what I am talking about.

I have not seen what I posted once, I saw it hundreds of times, not just on the skin but DEEP into the arm, the deepest near 5/8 of a inch, the largest covered a area of almost 3 inch by 2 1/4 this is a big piece of your arm.

If you look at what I posted and read then ask me questions, I CAN ANSWER THEM and if I can not you have raised a very good question.
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 02:46 PM
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Hi, I am new to this forum. I was attacked by a swarm of fungal gnats in June of 2007. Thats when my nightmare started. I have used everything and nothing worked. Now I am on Candida Diet. No sugar, no bread, no soda, no chocolate, no alcohol. I am also following JWF's(blue skies... John) herbal protocol for last one month, which seems to be helping. I am taking Cat's Claw, Garlic, Grape seed extract, oil of oregano,GSE, NAC with vita C, MVs,CoQ10, minerals and Ca with vita D3, Mg and Zinc.
I have started using cocoanut oil with oil of oregano in my hair and all over my body, which has helped with the itching.
Last night I applied cocoanut oil mixed with a few drops of GSE all over my body and scalp. I gently massaged it in my face. A few minutes later, I felt this horrible stinging in my face. I wiped my face with a white paper towel and examined the towel under a hand held magnifying glass. To my horror, I saw several black and red dots and blue and red fibers. I applied the mixture again and many more fibers came out. I increased the no. of drops of GSE in the mixture and VOILA!! big fibers started to come out. The biggest one was about an inch long. I kept repeating the application and more and more fibers kept coming out. I never knew my was hiding hundreds of fibers under the skin. I will keep repeating this everyday.
I am also using gloves while shampooing and oiling my hair to prevent reinfestation from my scalp to my hands, since it all started in my hair 3 years ago.
I hope this will help some people. This is not a medical advice and may not work for everyone. Thanks for listening to me.
Also, the two lesions that I had, have dried up after cleanig the with H2O2 and applying cocoanut oil mixed with oil of oregano for a few days.
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Old March 22nd, 2010, 07:11 PM
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THANK YOU DEPRESSED, you should be very happy with yourself, you have found somthing that works, others have also noticed that the GSE purges things from the skin. I was going to suggest the olive oil GSE mixture, that was next, but my GSE ran out, got a new bottle today. Good work using the scope to find out really what is happening. It makes you better than just a human, it gives you super powers of observation, we need more observent people.

I do wish you would look back in time before nats for the onslaught of this disease's beginning, was there a point in life where, hair changed, your period came out of time, not at all, heavy flow, spotty no flow, here are the key words, from a perfectly timed and flow period. Many women have dryness or tenderness, then again from a almost perfect situation to this. Think back to a time when you had no situations doctors explained away as NORMAL, they may have been normal, normal for a society that is infested with disease. One thing to be carful of is that you do not force open the lesions on the face, if you see this happening back off heal them over, ALOE PLANT STRIPS OF SHAVED PULP really help to heal over, that is UNLESS you can hide away. I think getting them out is best but it is so hard to do all of them at once. MISERY is more the word for it. Thanks Depressed, you will get better your using the right stuff. I have tried oil of oregano, but it makes you smell so strong, LOL, there is no way to miss it!!!!!!
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