Is morgellons black magic?

[Cleft_Asunder]

I don't want you to believe me but only to consider the possibility. I'm well researched in this area so I do speak with confidence due to actual experience with the forces behind morgellons. None of this stuff is accidental, it's intentional and deliberate. Yeah it comes out of a lab or whatever, but the idea behind it comes from another plane of existence, from the demonic hells to be specific. Earth is controlled completely by the forces of evil through the means of demonic possession. Morgellons was designed to create massive negativity and fear which feed these demonic entities.

4 years ago, I did some mushrooms with a friend, and out of anger I cursed at the demons and the hellish Earth they created. Minutes later, I felt as if my nose was bleeding. I got into the car and checked in the mirror but it wasn't, but it felt like it. I started to freak out and then my energy went to nearly zero, to the point where I would have collapsed had I not been sitting in the car. The demons had drained me because I cursed at them. For the next 5 minutes I felt like I was going to die. Everything was hopeless and I felt like there was no God or salvation during this time. But I prayed to God and my energy was restored, though I still felt alone and empty.

When I arrived home later, I walked through the front door and it felt like my head ran into a spider web. I grab at my face but nothing, and I'm freaked out! The spider web thing relates to other-dimentional contact, and in this case I think it was a curse put on me. I went upstares in wonder and fear, and then the thought of morgellons pops into my head, which is like one of those diseases that makes you question everything about life. And the thought that I had it was real for the first time that night, and it was the scariest night of my life.

Presently, I am no longer affraid nor angry. I am still afflicted with it or a similar disease (I don't have fibers), but the essential point is that I do believe it's black magic and I definitely know it can be countered by such methods as devotion to God, prayer, or meditation. But it's easier said than done because these demonic forces want to keep you in a state of depression and hopelessness. Yes, I understand the physical causes such as airborn fibers and what not, but there is a other-dimentional link to it. For example, one theory I have is that the totality of the disease is controlled by a demon living inside the body. So in other words he's the puppetier and the root cause. I raise this theory because I know there is a demon inside of me ever since that night with mushrooms. Every month, around the full moon, the demon has power over me. Also, the below post by Dr. Staninger confirms the demonic aspect. The dragon or reptilian is the form which the demons take, and the reason it is located in the forehead is because it's covering the third eye. So it's like it's shackled to the 3rd eye blocking it or something. Tell me this doesn't sound demonic:

Patients have described a tightening feeling over the scalp (like wearing a bathing cap), which is a silicone layer between the skull and skin. This was discovered by Dr Kajoo taking scalp biopsies. Patients that have this cap, if imagined, like a crown, also have a silicone shape in the middle of their forehead (pineal gland area) ?dragon shaped?, and then behind it a black fiber tubed network in the shape of a circle (not all patients have this, those that do, the shapes are the same and are physically visible. Patients that had this, had a tube that travels to the back of the brain.

On the bright side, we're not ****ed. Those of you who are suffering terribly from this, I recommend you establish a spiritual foundation. Pray to God and ask him for guidance then look for the signs, they will be there. Devote yourself to him as this will counter all black magic. Or, if you think God is an *******, then try meditation which will allow you to externalize yourself from the body/mind. You are NOT the body/mind, you are the consciousness in which the body/mind/world is present. That means you aren't your thoughts either. Real meditation will raise your vibration making things like morgellons unable to operate. Just be conscious of being conscious. In other words, be aware that you're aware. Try not to think, and if you do just watch the thoughts without interest. You measure your success by how peaceful you become.

And just remember, Good prevails in the end. Everyone attains salvation and not a soul will be lost. If you guys want to find some light in this darkness, I highly recommend reading Ramana Maharshi and Nisargadatta. Neither have anything to preach and both have attained the highest goal.

[pat]

Well I could go along with it being the devils spawn who put it out here, since I have just been reading what is plastered all over net about MAJOR people in the UK Government being heavily involved in paedophile groups.This is the Govt that are making it mandatory to teach sex to 5 year olds (I wonder why-isn’t it called grooming?) So yes it’s obvious we are being ruled by evil people- just wish the population would realise what is happening.
I don’t eat mushrooms anymore cause they are fungi.And fungi is a big no-no.LOL.
The web you speak of is common..I get them across my face in the garden..I don’t see them just feel them cos they are so fine. See JO’S posts on webs and flies etc.
I don’t think for a moment that there is a nasty spirit in me..there wouldn’t be room for it believe me.Yes this stuff does centre on the forehead as it does other places i.e. the backside which is prob the best place for satanic beings. But any foreign body like this which spreads to the brain would cause changes in mood, behaviour etc.Thats why so many get down because of this unrelenting struggle against something unknown.
When you say black magic it conjures up jungles,witch doctors n potions to me.Like in James Bond.
However I don’t think that’s what you mean. I think you are saying that the powers that be are working for the devil..and on that, I am convinced you are right. Do they know what Morgs is? Of course they do. Not that they will tell us anytime soon. If ever.
The word is out on it and spreading. I heard its provoking some debate on David Ic*** forums.Seems some folk there have even got the symptoms, but didn’t know it was morgs. Keep the faith.

[Dzana]

.. and some ppl r indeed stupid believing that fibers and worms in the skin do come from the stress I have seen some of them no way I could convince them that it is not a cigarette tar coming from the skin or stress ........

[Bee]

Cleft, Many moons ago, I've been where you've been. The dark side, the total emptiness, nothing mattered, no feeling left at all, dead was Dead.
But I went back and that time I found the All Knowing, All Loving,In Syck, Euphoria with true feeling That everything is gonna be OK.On the other side.
I believe I am working out my karma, probably from a previous life, because I don't know what I did in this lifetime to deserve this And I started off with a hard life this time. Whatever I got to do in this life, not to come back or to get to heaven. I'll do it.
The reason you should not experiment with hallucinogenic drugs is, they open up your soul for bad enities to enter and they break the blood brain barrior for parasites to enter the brain. Which may or may not be the same thing ?

I believe parasites are Demons. Without parasites there would not be disease.
The devil has closed our minds and ears, not to have seen this sooner.
The only way to open their eyes to parasites, is to pray. The whole world is gonna have to do until more people are praying then are Not.

You are not supposed to acknowledge evil, just pray once and say thank you God over & over. And pray for the Holy Sprirt.

[tcmgpt13]

Hopefully, we can see that even though we do not have answers for our illness and even though it seems those who have political power do not care about us we will not embrace the dark side of life or see our illness in its shadows.

BLACK MAGIC

BLACK MAGIC

Supernatural traditions from African religion have survived the "conversion" to African American Christianity, blurring the line between religion and magic.

By Tom Krattenmaker

To view the "Seven African Powers" colorful candle that represents a cross between religion and magic, click here CANDLE

There's religion, and then there's magic. According to the conventional view, the two are separate streams with no common water. But consider the religious candle that Assistant Professor Yvonne Chireau found in a New Jersey "botanica" (a shop where religious and magical items are sold) while researching her forthcoming book: It bears depictions of Jesus, Mary, and the crucifixion, yet printed above the familiar-looking biblical figures and scenes are names such as "Ochum," an African goddess of love, and "Ogum," a god of virility. The words "Seven African Powers" are emblazoned across the top.

As illustrated by the candle and its combination of Christian and pagan imagery, black supernatural tradition has more than survived the "conversion" of African Americans to the Western church. The practice of magic in black culture-even, surprisingly, in the context of mainstream Christianity-is the subject of a book Chireau is writing for the University of California Press, Black Magic: Dimensions of the Supernatural in African-American Religion. To the uninitiated there's an intriguing spookiness to some of the roots, mojos, voodoo dolls, and magic recipes she's collected, but Chireau finds in them the stuff of worthwhile scholarship. The study of magic, she says, reveals volumes about the black experience in America and may contribute to an understanding of Euro-American beliefs and superstitions.

"I'm trying to pull apart this loaded term `magic,'" says Chireau, now in her second year in the Department of Religion. "At certain points in history, magic was used to describe religious practices that didn't have a place within official structures like Christianity. But if you dig deep into the history of most religions, you find that people incorporate all kinds of idiosyncrasies that don't necessarily fit in with the official doctrine. I'm interested in knowing what kinds of alternative beliefs, construed to be magic, are just the way people believe and practice their religion.

"This becomes especially interesting when you look at black people. They come from Africa, where religion is oriented toward the magical, where you don't find the same doctrines and rules that exist in Western Christianity. So when Africans come to the West, there's a clash of perspectives. Christians are saying: `You Africans are pagans. You're magical. You're the other.' The white people consign all the African beliefs and practices to the category of magic. So one might think that when Africans convert, they discard all those magical ways. But they don't. They just incorporate them into Christianity."

Chireau, who has an undergraduate degree from Mount Holyoke, a master's in theological studies from Harvard, and a Ph.D. from Princeton, began exploring black supernatural tradition about four years ago for her dissertation. She discovered a rich literature in court records-magic practice was illegal in the American colonies and the fledgling United States-as well as in novels, autobiographies, and the journals and letters of both African Americans and the white missionaries and teachers who lived among them. The material is especially abundant for the period beginning in the late 19th century, when folklore became established as an academic discipline and magic began to capture the imaginations of a growing cadre of collectors and amateurs.

One anecdote Chireau dug up reveals how magic appealed not only to rank-and-file church members in their times of need, but even to the clergy. As the story goes, a young preacher, circa 1890, opens a new church in New York City but can't get anyone to come. One day a conjure man comes to visit and offers to prepare a charm that will fill the pews. Desperate by this time, the preacher agrees. The charm works wonders, and the church is full the next Sunday. But now the preacher is deeply conflicted. Wracked with guilt, he throws the charm away. Attendance, according to the anonymous source of the story, quickly declines. But to Chireau that's beside the point. "People use magic as a last-ditch measure in desperate situations," she says. "It meets that desire for an additional power source when you really need it. That's where you find magic being practiced within Christianity."

Rural blacks from the South, according to Chireau, brought magic with them during the northward migrations earlier this century. Whereas a person in need of extra power in the rural South in the 1800s could visit the medicine man in his shack at the edge of town or out in the swamp, people nowadays can shop at the occult and magic stores that have become common in American cities.

[tcmgpt13]

There one can find supposed remedies for everything from an illness to a lost lover to a tapped-out wallet or bank account. To round out her research for the book, Chireau has visited numerous magic shops and assembled an alluring array of books and artifacts. Along with the "Seven African Powers" candle, she's collected an assortment of conjure bags-little red cloth sacks filled with shells or roots. To "do roots" on someone, she explains, is to concoct a charm that will harm the person, or make him or her fall in love, or counteract some magic the target might be suspected of practicing. While exotic roots like "low-johns" and "John the Conqueror" are believed to possess the power, folk tradition ascribes even greater potency to dust from a grave or parts of someone's body, such as hair, nails, or pieces of skin.

Also in Chireau's collection is a small cloth "voodoo" doll, known as a "mojo hand" in the blues tradition or a "lucky hand" in some places. According to popular misconception, people stick pins in the doll to inflict injury on the person it represents. The real idea, Chireau says, is to put inside the doll some part of the target's body and, thus, to make it an extension of that person. Practitioners of this type of magic treat the doll almost like a person, plying it with food and whiskey to keep it "alive" while they manipulate it in ways aimed at producing the desired result. Like roots, the doll's magic can be used to conjure love or harm.

Uses of magic need not always involve matters of love, life, or death, however. People also turn to it when they want that extra boost finding the apartment or job they need, according to Chireau. Magic, in fact, can be downright bottom-line. At one shop she visited, Chireau found a yellow aerosol can called "Mr. Money Maker." Shake it and spray it, according to the directions, and money will come to you.

Other wrinkles of the black supernatural tradition are revealed in a mysterious old book Chireau found at a shop in Harlem. Its black paper cover reads: Egyptian Secrets or White and Black Art for Man and Beast: Revealing the Forbidden Knowledge of Ancient Philosophers. Inside are a homespun remedy for toothache and a way to make a useful salve, as well as a prayer for protection against "persons doing evil unto you, whom you suspect of bearing malice." The prayer concludes with a line that sounds more like mainstream religion than magic: "We have all drank in the Saviour's blood. God the Holy Spirit be with us all."

Chireau believes that magic's appeal is greatest among segments of the population most deprived of political and social power. It's easy to understand why slaves, who lived under the constant threat of the whip and the auction block, might keep magical roots in their pockets. Creating demand for magic today are the economic struggles, health problems, and other difficulties that are characteristic of life in any time and place, but are especially acute in the African American community. Where there is less access to money, legal means, and conventional medicine, Chireau says, people are more likely to resort to the supernatural.

"I explain the staying power of magic by looking at what it provides for people," says Chireau. "What does it give them that their religion doesn't? I find, for example, that magic provides a very rich vocabulary for dealing with the question of evil. Say you're a parent, and your daughter becomes inexplicably sick. The doctor says there's nothing he can do. If you're a Christian, you pray. You ask why is this happening to me, to my daughter?

But if you believe in magic, it's easy to identify the source of the affliction-it's happening because somebody put a fix or a mojo on her. Thus, magic gives you a way of understanding something you cannot otherwise explain. It also locates evil or misfortune within the social body. It's much more satisfying to say, `You did it,' than to say it's God's will."
Christianity, Chireau notes, has always condemned magic practice as dancing with the devil. But as Chireau has gotten deeper into her research over the last four years, she has found that supernatural practitioners see no such conflict between their craft and the stuff of churches. "What I found is that even the language conjurers use is from Christianity," she says. "They'll say, `The Holy Spirit did this,' or, `The Devil did that.' It's coming straight from the Bible. They also use items that are normally associated with the church to work their spells, including pages from the Bible."

Although her research focuses on supernatural practices of African Americans, Chireau asserts that magic has long had a role in white Christian churches as well; it is, she acknowledges, one of her more controversial points. Witchcraft trials in colonial Virginia and Massachusetts, Chireau points out, demonstrate the extent to which the early North American Christians feared, and thus believed in, supernatural forces. And what about devout Christians today who are superstitious? For example, according to one rural custom, a child's nosebleed can be stanched by tying a red string around his or her finger. A God-fearing mother who practices the technique would vehemently deny it's related to the occult, even though analogous methods in the black community might well be labeled "magic."

And here's another intriguing question: Does magic work? That, says Chireau, depends on what is meant by "work."

"When we go to church and pray, do we think of religion as `working?'" she asks. "We don't even ask that question. Some people swear magic works; just as many swear that conventional prayer works. One question I deal with in the book is that if magic doesn't work, then why do people continue to use it? The slaves believed that if something didn't go according to plan, it wasn't because the magic didn't work, but because you didn't do it right, or because someone else had a stronger charm. So as a belief system, it sort of takes care of itself.

"I don't know whether magic works. If you look at it scientifically, no, it doesn't work. But what if you ask that same question about prayer to people who pray to Jesus or the saints? They'd say, sure, prayer works. But if you ask them to prove it, how could they?"

[Enviro Girl]

Cleft, Whaddup?!

Happen to notice if a bunch of black specks came off ya during the shrooms? That sounds like it can happen to Morgies, anyway, but I'm wondering if addl fungus in your system made for extra black specks?

"Sittin' and starin' outta the hotel window...Got a tip they're gonna kick the door in again. I'd like to get some sleep before I travel, but if you got a warrant, I guess you're gonna come in." - Grateful Dead

[Cleft_Asunder]

Originally Posted by pat

Well I could go along with it being the devils spawn who put it out here, since I have just been reading what is plastered all over net about MAJOR people in the UK Government being heavily involved in paedophile groups.This is the Govt that are making it mandatory to teach sex to 5 year olds (I wonder why-isn’t it called grooming?) So yes it’s obvious we are being ruled by evil people- just wish the population would realise what is happening.
I don’t eat mushrooms anymore cause they are fungi.And fungi is a big no-no.LOL.
The web you speak of is common..I get them across my face in the garden..I don’t see them just feel them cos they are so fine. See JO’S posts on webs and flies etc.
I don’t think for a moment that there is a nasty spirit in me..there wouldn’t be room for it believe me.Yes this stuff does centre on the forehead as it does other places i.e. the backside which is prob the best place for satanic beings. But any foreign body like this which spreads to the brain would cause changes in mood, behaviour etc.Thats why so many get down because of this unrelenting struggle against something unknown.
When you say black magic it conjures up jungles,witch doctors n potions to me.Like in James Bond.
However I don’t think that’s what you mean. I think you are saying that the powers that be are working for the devil..and on that, I am convinced you are right. Do they know what Morgs is? Of course they do. Not that they will tell us anytime soon. If ever.
The word is out on it and spreading. I heard its provoking some debate on David Ic*** forums.Seems some folk there have even got the symptoms, but didn’t know it was morgs. Keep the faith.

By black magic I mean any type of magic used on another being maliciously such as a curse. I don't eat mushrooms anymore either just so you know. I have a very good diet and all that so my symptoms are minimal. I have black specks coming out of skin, crawling on the head (my head is the most active part) and other symptoms but nothing I can't control. Had I not gotten this disease, I would be a successful artist, but the disease really dumbed me down. I'm smart but I'm living at a fraction of my potential, being weighed down, and I'm trying to break out of that but it's hard.

Yeah the new world order/illuminati conspiracy is controlled from another plane of existence. David Icke is right on about mostly everything and it's fantastic that people are open-minded about this stuff. I've got an account under cleft_asunder in his forum, about 4000 posts, but I closed it.

[Cleft_Asunder]

Originally Posted by Bee

Cleft, Many moons ago, I've been where you've been. The dark side, the total emptiness, nothing mattered, no feeling left at all, dead was Dead.
But I went back and that time I found the All Knowing, All Loving,In Syck, Euphoria with true feeling That everything is gonna be OK.On the other side.
I believe I am working out my karma, probably from a previous life, because I don't know what I did in this lifetime to deserve this And I started off with a hard life this time. Whatever I got to do in this life, not to come back or to get to heaven. I'll do it.
The reason you should not experiment with hallucinogenic drugs is, they open up your soul for bad enities to enter and they break the blood brain barrior for parasites to enter the brain. Which may or may not be the same thing ?

I believe parasites are Demons. Without parasites there would not be disease.
The devil has closed our minds and ears, not to have seen this sooner.
The only way to open their eyes to parasites, is to pray. The whole world is gonna have to do until more people are praying then are Not.

You are not supposed to acknowledge evil, just pray once and say thank you God over & over. And pray for the Holy Sprirt.

I agree with you completely.

[Bee]

Black magic curses can only happen if you believe they can which allows them too.

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