Into and a few questions

[Richard T]

Hello all,

I wish I was not here having to write this into, but her I am wondering why me! Well know one even knows what this is or how you get it, but I have it and that is what is important! I wish I knew how I got this but investigating what I have coming off of me and looking at the net I realized I have M. I have been on silver for about two months and most of the sores are gone. I still have spots that show up now and then, I think #$&% now I have at least another three weeks before I have clean skin. Still have them pop up, it's acts like a exit into the world from your body. This adventure, I say adventure as I have learned a lot since this started 6 months ago (I know not as long as most here). I am very thankful for sites like these, as they have helped me as my doctor or doctors have no clue or don't believe anything I say. I went through the "its scabies" thing and went through many tubes of Permethrin. Of course it did not work but tried some oils and enzymes from scabies killer along will diatomaceous earth and that helped but it did not get rid of it. The head itching/crawling led to a hair shave one evening as I could not take it anymore. Still did not even start to look for what it was as I still thought it was a bug. Had many small black and rice size white crystal or seeds come out of the pores as I would rub the oil, they would come out. They were in my ears, my nose, my hair, my chest, butt and legs and arms. My butt is sore free, my legs are except one or two that pop up, chest is free, arms one or two now and then, face now and then throughout this, but my head went from sores to major crawl to now its fiber city. I take many baths now and sometimes I feel like a prune, but the ones with salt help a lot. I put four tubes of salt to one full bath. At first it would have a film of fibers and specs floating, now it is getting less and less. After the bath I would air dry and let the salt dry on me. I would then after 30 minutes go for a hunt as all the little cocoons glued to my body would be white with salt. It was amazing home many were there. The more I got off the less sores I got. Now for the cotton balls (that's what I call them) it's amazing to look at everything in the microscope and I wish I had a good cam to get digital images. Anyway, these balls have many different colors, but it looks like a course fiber that collects other fibers and spins a nest (sometimes). They are on anything that has fibers and sometimes I even see something growing on the leather. Everything is washed after one use and all the clothes I use is white or able to be washed with bleach. Now the questions! I called Dr. S to make an appointment but she requires a doctors script to see a toxic doctor and I am not sure my doctor will do this. I have heard her protocol works and I want to give it a try. I want to switch and don't want to wait for the appointment and would like to get a head start. If someone that has talked to her could send me a email at rtimte at hotmail dot com I would be very grateful. I know about the Dry Oxy and the far infra-red, but I know that you need to do the whole thing to make it work! I will talk with my doctor next week and see if he will write me the script. Also I read that there is a conference in Austin, TX and since I am in Dallas I might go... Any info or a link would be great!!!

Thanks for listening and good luck to us all,
Richard

P.S. what is everybody doing now and how is it working?

[jonsi]

Welcome Richard T!

Ummmmm.... I wanted to go see Ginger Savely (hope she is the Dr S you mentioned) three years ago but her initial fee was $500! That didn't include the airfare to go to SF. Long story short: I found homeopathic natural medicine does work!

I went to the first "M" conference in Austin back in 2008 and came home deeply disappointed because I didn't learn anything new and all they pushed was pharmaceutical medicine. However, I might attend some day again to meet up friends that I have met on the internet. (Better yet, I'll probably go to Florida for one of Sadsack's support groups!)

It might be worth the trip to Austin just to meet people, but most of the people I met there had big egos and didn't want to talk about anything they didn't understand. (sorry I have a negative attitude about the Austin Conference!)

Since I am such a nice hippie chick I will provide you with link to this years Austin conference: Charles E. Holman Foundation Maybe you should attend? Please report back to us if you do go! If I still lived in Plano I would probably go...

In the white light,
~jonsi

[fracty]

Hi Richard,

Sorry to hear you are going through this, but glad you are with us since you are.

I know what you mean about the cotton balls. One of the first things I noticed was that the balls were on ALL of the cotton clothes I was buying. I ended up throwing out all of my clothes. I look freakish, but I pretend I am in an exciting movie like The Bourne Identity, so of course no one can understand.

oh well... anyway,

since you are going to see Dr. Staninger, I am wondering if you live near me in LA. If so, my old doctor would probably write you a referral. He is pretty inexpensive. It is less for me, ... I think $40, but for a new person I think $50. I bet he would write it. Otherwise, if I come across a friend MD who would be willing to do it I will lwt you know. I do know a doctor who wants to see me about this, but I am afraid certain ppl are settin me up. He is a renowned Dr, but I find i t hard to believe he suddenly wants to see me because ppl who knew me before saw me at a store and saw how sick I was. Yet before I went to them for help even tho I almost never ask anyone for help w anything.. they thought I was sick, but being overly dramatic about it and overly upset, but now they suddenly want to see me, after not taking it seriously when it first started, and they see how sick I look, and they are changing their tune, and I dont knwo what to believe... rrrr. aw well. i will stop ranting for now. Let me know if you are near me and I will send you info for the guy I mentioned.

[fracty]

If you want to see him I will call or email him first to ask him if he will do it. Knowing him, he will say yes though.

[jonsi]

Hi Fracty,

I'm not clear who Dr. "S" is... could be H. Staninger or G. Savely. I thought he was talking about Savely because RT is considering going to Austin, Texas (Charles Holman Foundation is part of Ginger Savely's "camp", along with OSU).

Personally, I will never ever never take a prescription pharmaceutical drug (or vaccine) never ever again. IMHO pharmaceutical drugs might work short-term and make us much sicker in the long run!

Most of you know how well natural/homeopathic medicine has worked for me & my young daughter....

I'd much prefer RT go to Staninger than Savely!

MD's (Doctors of pharmaceutical Medicine) write prescriptions for diseases they & the pharmaceutical companies have knowledge about... As so far, we are guinnae pigs for the drugs... they don't even acknowledge "Morgellons"! (DOP? I think not)

I guarantee that if the pharmaceutical companies (insurance big wigs) had a drug that would help us "Morgies", this disease would be on every front page and in the news.

MD's are "clueless" (perhaps shut up by the CDC, NWO) and have no pharmaceutical medicine that can cure us from "M". Pharmaceutical companies are trying to restrict availability to take over natural medicines (herbs, vitamins, etc...). Why? Because they work and if big pharma can get a patent on natural medicine we will need a prescription for vitamin C! (Monsanto and GMO's already control our food!)

Please look at this: Health Freedom Threats: Codex, FDA, Vaccinations, GMOs :: HealthFreedomUSA.org dig into this site and you will see what I am talking about


Laters (I've said this over & over again), love to everyone! I should copy/paste this to a new thread... or someone else can.

In the white light,
~jonsi

[fracty]

Jonsi,

I agree that (most) MDs are clueless. As I mention in my thread, the "Dr. S" I am referring to is Dr. Staninger. To my knowledge, Ginger Savely is an RN, and not an MD or PhD, so she could not be referred to as a "Dr." Maybe i am wrong about that and she has some credentials I am not aware of. (Edited to add: I just Googled her name and found she is a doctor of nursing practice. At any rate, she is someone I believe I initially contacted when I first contracted M. I do not remember that she was a "Dr" at that point, but for various reasons I decided to rule her out for my personal treatment strategy.)

Dr S (Staninger), to my understanding, is a PhD who does not use pharmaceuticals. I am someone who typically has never used pharmaceuticals.. pretty much my entire life. In fact, I have had some major run ins w Drs. over this in the past,.. particularly dentists when I refused to take Novocaine and insisted on using self hypnosis.

Despite my holistic orientation,and my refusal of pharmaceuticals in the past, I DID use numerous pharmaceuticals in my battle w M, and I would be someone who is pretty much considered symptom free. At least from what I read here, I was lucky enough to overcome the symptoms I read about that ppl here are suffering from. I do not consider myself fully healed, and will not do so until I KNOW every last nanotecb/parasite/bacteria/viri/fungi/etci.. is TOTALLY gone..

but I have to say, my healthy lifestyle, COUPLED W the pharmaceuticals I took have made me pretty much well compared to what I read here from ppl who have not used them. I have overcome most of the symptoms I read about here. And I would consider it unethical not to let ppl know that pharmaceuticals were one of the things that helped me get well, and more well than the average. Absolutely, I think it is possible to heal w/out them, but most of the ppl I have come across who did not use them have much worse symptoms left than me.

In the future I would avoid them (phama) as much as possible, as I did in the past. But they are part of why I am so much better now than most. When I first got here I read about so many ppl telling me not to take them, and THEN I find, LATER, that they were much worse off than me. I just want to say that I disagree w a black and white judgment against Pharmaceuticals. I was someone who BEFORE, not AFTER M was already holistic and not into that type of thing. But in some cases it is needed.

My lifestyle surrounds me w holistic and new age types of healers, and still just about everyone I know would agree that in some cases pharms are a helpful adjunct. I am what most ppl would consider well. The reason I feel so strongly about stating the facts about this is because it was so contradictory to me at first. I read statements from ppl who said not to use pharmaceuticals and who said they were better, only lately to find that what they consider "better" was what I consider still very, very sick. I feel this is a matter of life and death.

Is it possible to get well w/out them? Yes. Would I avoid them if I could? yes, Do I hate the way they are starting to put GMOs in them? yes. But MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, pharmaceuticals were one of the things the ppl who are totally better used. And I am not just referring to the physical symptoms, I am referring to the damage that creates the mental symptoms like the brain fog and anxiety.

I feel so strongly about this, because it is a life or death matter. Otherwise, I would not care, but I know it can help. It would be unethical of me not to say so.

[Richard T]

Thanks for your replies,

jonsi,

Thanks for the link, I live in the Dallas area and going to Austin is no big deal for me. I am trying to see Dr. Staninger not Ginger Savely. If I go I will for sure post a reply here with my experences!

fracty,

I live in the Dallas area so your local doctor would not work to well for me (thanks for the offer).

Another question to ask everybody, the outbreaks seem to cycle with the cycles of the moon, when it is full they are vary active and when it is not they are well just active? Does anyody else notice this? I'm on silver and would rather use Dr Staninger protocal if I can get it. I have ordered the Opaline Oxygen caps and looking at the far infra-red equiptment I will buy.

Thanks everybody and god bless us all!
Richard

[Bee]

Yes the full moon does effect IT.
The word Lunatic comes from the word Luna,because long ago they discovered people loon out during the full moon, They knew parasites react to the moon and they used shock treatments to kill them.
The best time to deworm is the full moon. Did you do that yet ?
You have to hit them hard with the strongest thing your willing to take and flush them out fast.

I did the mega dose of silver and it got that goo out, not a lot like they suggest on youtube, which made me procrastinate about doing it. I only had 3-4. No ill side effects from it.

[Richard T]

Bee,

I did what they suggest 30 drops three times a day the first day, then 40, 50 and 60 drops a day three times a day until you are clean then you can reduce the amount if it still works. I have lots of them come out at first(about 1/8 in long and soft not hard). sometimes it takes a little rubbing to get them to come all the way out! The amount has slowed down, but I still have them come out every day. If they come out on their own they will bite/sting you so you know it's there. It seems that when the sun starts to go down is when it starts up. What did you do or how much did you take for the mega dose?

Thanks again Richard

[ChatCat]

Hi Richard,


One thing that you may want to try regarding Dr. S is to call her back and don't mention Morgellons. Instead say that you would like to consult with her regarding silicone toxicity problems.

I think she is legally obligated to refer you to an MD if you mention Morgellons and you want to her to assit you.


It is worth a try, cc