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| Hi everyone, I just wanted to comment on the connection between the colon and it being the root for Morgs. I've been dealing with this for a year now and all of my skin symptoms started after doing a course of about 5 colonics. I'm sure now that I've had this in my system for years and at the time of the colon therapy, I didn't see the connection but now I realize that what was happening was that the colonics were really starting to break this "network" up and it caused it to start comming out everywhere. I have just now in the last 3 months started using some of Staninger's protocol and I'm really seeing results!!! The biggest thing for me is the skin lesions (I know this is not just a skin thing) because of simply functioning out in public so for those of you who are dealing with the lesions, PLEASE take note of the 2 soap method that she recommends (Endure 300 and Fungasoap). Nothing, and I mean Nothing would heal those suckers up and when I started using this method, some of the small lesions literally healed up in about 2-3 days. The soaps draw the silicone/plastics out of the skin and allow it to heal like a normal wound. I have found that even on unbroken skin that it still pulls this stuff out and unfortunately sometimes actually causes some small lesions to form for a short time if that area has a lot of stuff under the skin. I know money is a huge issue for most of us and honestly when I started doing this, I went thru a whole bottle of each of the soaps in about 3 days. As much as I want to support the web sites that are affiliated with her, I couldn't afford to keep buying them for almost $40 for both so I google and googled some more until I found companies that sell them in cases and they cost a third of the price. If anyone is interested in my post then please respond and I will post the web sites for you. I HIGHLY recommend that anyone dealing with skin lesions does this soap treatment because it has been a life saver for me. Do keep in mind that the lesions will keep comming back if you aren't following up with the internal protocol as well. Good luck.....we all need a lot of it right now ![]() |
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| I totally agree with you Wildflower, this is in the colon. I have used colon cleanses before, but the abatement of symptoms for me has finally come with the use of some TCM herbal formulas, one of which is treating the large intestine and the other the small intestine. I have used ivermectin from the doctor which pushed out some parasites. I also used acyclovir which helped those lesions which were viral. Acyclovir did nothing for the morg lesions which in my case showed parasitic involvement (I could see them and they moved). Anyway, since using these TCM herbs some of the lesions which I was treating with my herbal salves finally dried up with no further treatment externally. Now other small areas are flaking off my skin (sites of future lesions drying up?). So it is very important IMHO to treat the small and large intestine. I am not sure if other herbal traditions know what herbs to use for the small intestine, but the Chinese do know how. I saw parasites come out that probably were spreading one stage of the parasite to other internal areas of the body and the skin. Since flushing them out like this, I am not seeing anything develop this spring (cross fingers) as far as lesions (which has been my pattern in the past). So I am hopeful, but will not say I am cured, as I still have a lot of fatigue and brain fog, even though there are some days of improvement there. I also feel like I have a constant cold, but over time I am sure my TCM guy will change treatments to match symptoms. About the Staninger soaps, I know that some who posted in the past have said these products helped, but there were others who did not have much results from them. That sort of fits with what we know about morgellons, as quite often one product will work for some and not for others. Anyway it probably would be helpful to post the websites for those who are interested in buying a case to save money though I would suggest a trial run before ordering a case of the products to make sure it works for you.
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| Morgellons Alert - Dangers of Experimenting On Yourself February 18th, 2010 | Author: Dr. Hildegarde Staninger From: Morgellons Alert - Dangers of Experimenting On Yourself | Healing Grapevine I am writing this post to specifically address some immediate concerns I have about the multitude of unsubstantiated remedies that individuals are using to self treat the condition best known as Morgellons. I realize many of you have been actively searching for answers to this ‘unexplained dermopathy’ for years and years and without medical guidance you are desperate for something to work. I have been an industrial toxicologist/IH for 30 years and a Doctor of Integrative Medicine for 9 years with over 109 sub specialty professional trainings in 9 different categories of OSHA/EPA regulatory affairs (compliance), epidemiology, toxicogenomics, radiation and laser safety officer. My training and professional scientific applied research services began with and still are a rigorous system of data and specimen collection, system analysis, clinical trials and includes private short and long-term toxicological studies. I have only just begun to share the research behind my facts and findings with the internet community that demonstrate the connection between exposure to a multitude of toxins from our workplace, environment, and home and the presentation of diseases. Starting in 2006, I was given the seed money to investigate the condition commonly referred to as Morgellons Disease. I am not affiliated with or funded by any government agency or university foundation. It is best to think of me as a privately contracted investigator. I have no other agenda than to discover the truth, in fact it is my passion, and educate other practitioners on the latest facts directly associated with our health today. The research that has come out of my past 4 years on analyzing fibers, specimens, and Morgellons patients has led to a protocol that when followed, leads to recovery. I work in conjunction with the primary physician for each case. Well before the studies I began in 2006 on Morgellons, I had already determined the therapeutic benefits of using far infrared as a means for stimulating cellular release of toxins and rejuvenation. Since discovering and utilizing far infrared radiant heat to facilitate what was once our natural healing process, I have analyzed the more than 72 different manufacturers of far infrared therapy products. There is only one Far infrared unit I endorse, MPS Global, which is the only one certified that creates K-bonds with the application of its Far Infrared Radiant Heat Technology as recognized by IEIA. It is this K-bond that creates the correct harmonic frequency to ensure that the toxins are being flushed from the cells. I must issue a very strong caution, specifically with regards to Morgellons symptoms, and using any other manufacturer’s FIR products. There is the potential to harden the fiber en-casings that many nano enhanced materials have within their design. Due to the extraordinary nature of compounds now being subjected to enhancement from bio and nanotechnology, it requires a rigor of identifying and removing these advanced nano materials that do not play by the same rules the medical community has ever seen before. Whether you think it is vectoring from chemtrails and aerial spraying, or bio engineered bugs, nematodes, or pathogens from military and private industry labs…please follow the substantiated facts. Be sure you are asking for specific references to claims and discoveries. Using yourself as a test subject and experimenting on yourself with the latest trend from another unvalidated test subject you met in a forum or who prints information on the internet is one of the worse things you can do for your health in this escalating advanced nano material syndrome. In the end, it can lead to even greater loss of health and expense. I have direct communication with five websites and these are the people who are dedicated to communicating my specific list of endorsed products and protocols. If they do not know the answer, they ask me for the facts. These are Healinggrapevine.com, 1cellonelight.com, Newageremedies.com, Springofwellness.com and Fountainofwellness.com. I have done guest interviews with other news reporting type websites as well but these are individual interviews, not on-going endorsements or associations. I also have several sites dedicated to my publishing my research: Staningerreport.com, Hildegarde-Staninger.com, and nrep.org. I am asking all other websites and individuals to please stop claiming they have consistent communication with me or that I endorse their own products, findings, books, or reports. More importantly, I am issuing a buyer beware warning to this large group of individuals that are desperately seeking help. I completely understand your circumstances, emotional and mental challenges, and frustration for finding answers and I will do my best to offer comfort as well as solutions that are working under medical guidance. Many of you already know this is a disease/syndrome of baffling scenarios, but this does not mean that you should be desperate in your desire to regain your health, even when you feel you are at the end of your rope. Often times a remedy, even billed as ‘natural’ can cause even greater harm. The team that has come together from my above endorsed websites are working hard to keep me posted on the misinformation that is circulating in this group. We want to educate you on the facts being discovered about the source of your health problems. This will be the most important step in regaining your health. Let me start right now with a few “DO NOT DO” if you suspect you have contracted Morgellons: 1. Do not take any collodial, ionic, or nano silver products. All forms of silver are extremely cumulative once they enter body tissues, and very little is excreted. It will accumulate in the body and excrete primarily in the intestinal colon. It will make silver protein when mixed with halogen based oxides and has been associated with cellular and embryonic tissue death. Also Ionic Gold and Monatomic Gold, ect…No Metals! 2. Do not take MMS, sodium chorite. 3. Do not use R.I.F.E therapy or any other Zapper type electro magnetically charged therapy due to the possible interaction of nano piezo electrical devices and nano metal composites. 4. Do not use any of my endorsed products any other way than detailed in my protocol or as indicated on the manufacturer’s label. This protocol is not publicly available for this very reason, there is great risk in making modifications without the research to confirm effectiveness and safety. Example…someone is recommending to combine Opaline Dry Oxy caps with HCL (hydrochloric acid). This is a dangerous combination because of the chlorine molecule (a halogen) reacting with the nano composite materials to create vinyl chloride nano composite materials. Vinyl chloride has been known to be a human carcinogen. Additional note Feb. 19 I want to clarify a fact about Opaline Dry Oxy Capsules and Granules. These products DO NOT contain ANY Halogen elements or molecules (Fluorine (F), Chlorine (Cl), Bromine (Br), Iodine (I), Astatine (At) and Undiscovered element 117). Chlorine is a very reactive catalyst in many plastic polymerization reactions and other chemical reactions. It is NOT contained in the Opaline Dry Oxy Capsules or Granules. The Opaline Dry Oxy Capsules and Granules only make oxygen (O2) and water (H2O) when taken internally or used externally. 5. Do not soak in chlorinated or brominated jacuzzis or hot tubs or spend time in the swimming pool. 6. Do not use chlorine based or anti microbial cleaning products and bathe or spray ammonia on your body. 7. Do not eat any foods containing modified food starches, or GMO corn and soy products of any kind. I do not claim that my knowledge is exclusive for creating a detox protocol that is working. I do however, have the facts to back up everything I recommend and everything I recommend is non toxic! As an industrial toxicologist, my level of discovery for the some times complicated chemistry interactions of different remedies and compounds we ingest or use on our skin is imperative so that no further complications will arise or, for example, cause harmful stress to our organs or systemic toxicological mechanisms of the body. There are no other side affects you should have to navigate in order to become healthy again! Please remember the single greatest thing you can do for your health is to become educated about this condition and stop listening to the chatter that often instills more fear and depression. If you are already ill, becoming fearful and negative will only add to your level of stress and exacerbate your condition. I am excited to announce that the Healing Grapevine Team are in the process of creating my own membership site. This is the perfect solution to eliminate all the issues mentioned above. My membership site will implement a safe, supportive environment for regaining your health while acting as an online extension to the IHS Outpatient Center. Right now I suggest you sign up for the Healing Grapevine Newsletter so we can keep you notified when we launch the membership site. I look forward to hearing more stories of healing and recovery that convey the truth and pass on the light. Please share this post with every one! Sincerely, Dr Hildegarde Staninger |
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| Hi CureMe, Love your recovery story!! It is so helpful to have someone here that is further down the road to recovery. I am getting there too. It does take time and lots of hard work. Keep healing, cc |
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| Wildflower... no doubt that the colon is important, but I look at this a little differently. I, too, have been dealing with this for about a year.. and mine also started with colonics!!!! Weird that you were similar. I was dealing with horrible candida, so I started cleansing and my ND suggested I start doing colonics to get the dead yeast out of my system. My first colonic made me so very sick. I was actually fine until about 1 hour after my colonic. We had stirred up so many toxins apparently. Then I felt deathly tired. My liver felt congested, and I couldn't eat without my liver hurting. I felt like I was dying!! After this time is when I started breaking out into random rashes all over my body. Epsom salt baths seemed to help. My second colonic happened 2 weeks later.. and I felt much better after that one. I took an epsom salt bath that night and saw some black specks in the water... just a few.. but I had been reading all about morgellons due to all my rashes and skin sensations I started having (no lesions though).. so it scared me. The next day, I rubbed some ponds cold cream into my arm and black threads and large black specks emerged after rubbing it deeply into my arm.. Oh my....! I don't think colonics break up this network. I think it helps clear the body of existing toxins, allowing the liver to dump more and thus, helps the body to deal better with the existing toxins... this isn't scientific, but I always thought of it more this way... I am fortunate to not have lesions (just dealing with stuff that looks like acne) but I just bought the endure and funga soap last week and started using it a few days ago.. I have biofilm and black threads inside my skin pores. It removes this biofilm very easily, taking alot of these black threads with it... It's just that this film grows back very fast! But the soaps have been helping... Quote:
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| i have just started with dr.s. protocol. i went through toni wright from the healing grapevine site. anyway i am gratefull for this forum you started because my memory is very bad . anyway i can tell that it is doing something and is helping but i cannot go 5 min. without getting the itching, burning, crawling, on my face and scalp. and my hair is not my hair anymore. and i have to wash it in salt water and vinager . sometimes i do this all day long. how long does it take for this stuff in my hair and eyelashes to stop enough for me to do anything normal. i don't have a life anymore because this is constantly going on if i'm awake. i hav'nt started the happy tummy yet because im not sure how to use it. i didn't buy the tummy protein . i think toni is new to this , she is very nice and helpful but she didn't tell me to get that. do I need to order that before i take the hap tum. also she didn't tell me to take any supplements. do i need the same ones as poor mans protocol. thanks , sleepy Last edited by sleepy; April 10th, 2010 at 12:41 AM. Reason: add title |
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| ...finished off the "intro" detox kit supply ["ten days"] of Opaline Dry Oxy.. Was quite ill yesterday...get up..wander around for 2 hours trying to "john wayne" it..hopeless. back to bed. big cat thought that was a most excellent idea!..[c'mon hooman, share the warm FIR pad thingy!] ...feel a bit of energy today..just a spark..but it's something. suspect that the "flu like symptoms" may be a good sign..["something" is happening..had a large herd of tiny "yello goo" leave in the urine after only a few days on Oxy/FIR pad. Am hoping that is a postitive sign too..hasn't happened in 8 months..] ...i did note that the two large lesions on left arm..normally coated with HARD plastic..went..soft..and..gooey. On their own...while I slept. Didn't stay that way.. the nano guys repaired their armour in a few hours..but..maybe..they got "blasted" by..something. The Dry Ox?..the FIR pad energy? *shrug* ok..we up the ante...ordered 360 more dry ox capsules. and..Thieves oil.. and the "fungal soap/endure 300 " soap. I did note that the thieves oil was 10 dollars cheaper via an Amazon supplier. . [much as i would like to heartily support the staninger office/preferred sources.. ..i am near broke..being out of work for 9 months will do that..gotta save dollars where I can..] Grit teeth as more money flows from bank for.."another cure attempt"...again. At least the money is not being utterly wasted on more allopathic "doctors". Three years of that...only results in digging a crater..[the one marked: "delusional".. [rrrooOWWRr..pHHT! Hisss!] ...{also discovered that I can get a bottle of "endure 300" for $8.00 a bottle via a medical supply store..[but one must purchase 12 at a time..case lot..] ..tempted..beats $24.95 a bottle..but lordy that's a lot of soap. ..maybe next time..if the "endure/pedifix" trial is..productive.. . .... |
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| Hi there Chewz, Here's a website Sadsack posted which sells one bottle of Endure for just under $13. Medical Supplies, Surgical Supplies, Medical Equipment
__________________ "Have courage for the great sorrows of life and patience for the small ones; and when you have laboriously accomplished your daily task, go to sleep in peace. God is awake." Victor Hugo, French dramatist, novelist, & poet (1802 - 1885) |
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| Chewtoy, This good info. is from "Wildflower" who uses two soaps that Staninger sells. Her words below: "The soaps will pull fibers out of the skin and much more. There's a reaction between them, and it causes the fungasoap to "ball up" everything in the surface pores. As you rub, you can actually feel it balling up under your hand. Some of it looks long and stringy and some is more chunky. I know it's real because there are some areas where there is no reaction and it just gets soapy looking (no gumming up stuff). I notice it going thru cycles....face will get really bad, then clear ect..." The two soaps are Endure 300 and Fungasoap. Foot Health :: Foot Care Products & Orthotics for Plantar Fasciitis, Bunions, Foot Pain :: FootHealth.com Ecolab Endure 300 Cida-Rinse Antimicrobial Gel-BuyEmp I crave sleeping on the FAR-Infrared pad. I've been doing the 10-day detox protocol and think it is really helping. Not sure if it is the detox or the FAR pad or combination of both, but I feel better. The constant headaches I had over the last 3 months seem to be mostly gone (only got one when hungry). Also crawling, itching, biting sensations are going away. I have occasional feeling like I'm being stabbed by a needle now, but compared to what I originally had, this is golden. Also notice the specks in my skin continue to be disappearing. Am seeing more fibers though. Think this stuff is coming to the surface now. I'm going to order the two soaps. Seems like I'm following right behind you by a few days. Good luck and keep us posted. |
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| Let me know how that goes Zara. I had wanted to buy those. I was actually at Dr. Staninger's office although I have not had an appointment with her personally. I went there to buy a bunch of her products but for some reason the receptionist thought I did not need those and only recommended other things instead. I no longer have any things showing on my skin, etc, but I was still worried I had them on the inside and I want to get everything out. But she seemed to think I only needed those if I still had lesions. But let me knwo what you think. |
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