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| WARNING: THIS HURTS I'm not kidding, this really hurts, but really rocks to kill the larva/parasite underneath the lesion. Overnight you will see whatever is eating us turn to yellow mush. You get zinc capsules and open them up. The lesion has to be open for the zinc to work. Pore that zinc powder on there and stand back because you're going to be in really bad pain for about 10 minutes. After that it is bearable. I took 2 Vicodin and 4 Advil so I could endure it. Not recommending that, just sayin'....I did that. This killed some stubborn lesions nothing else touched. It takes a while to heal after that, and to speed up the cleaning out of the debris I used the probiotic powder. See my thread about that... There are so many treatments out there I really don't expect anyone to listen but my conscience really pushed me to post on this. It's cheap. It really kills it. Try it if you want. Peace. sarothra |
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| When you and others refer to Larva and Parasites under the lesions, what does it look like? Because all I see is a cluster of tiny little white bumps. That I think look or are the same as comedomes,as found in acne except these are clusters of them. |
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| Bee, you have to get under the skin to see them as in my own case they are at least an eighth of an inch below the skin. They are sometimes even deeper into the muscle (at times I could also see a thin gray/black line too down in the muscle leading to them). Remember how Chester reported using her baking soda to get beneath the skin of the lesions she had? You have to get beneath the surface to see them. It is also possible to believe that we do not all have the same exact parasites. Sar, I have used Chester's protocol sometimes and the pain that causes sounds the same as the pain caused by the zinc powder. Whatever works to get them out is good I think. I absolutely believe you and am paying attention, too. Using the black herbal cancer salve I had hurt too. Ugh, it is painful to treat beneath the surface of the skin by any method. It is a disgrace we have to use what we can to help ourselves, gritting our teeth to bear the pain of it. To me, these are the guinea like worms Harvey described seeing in some of his patients. That is the other disgrace, that Harvey has mentioned that different parasites were found and so far no one else is looking into this aspect at all. Harvey unfortunately seems to have disappeared as we never hear about him lately. The worms I saw were about a quarter of an inch or more in diameter. And they were light yellow in color. I recently got some of these out in my stool with the new herbal formulas my acupuncturist prescribed (that cheered me no end as I figure that was lesions lost. LOL). The first time ever pushed out through the stool. IMHO it is the inability of most dewormers (of whatever kind, herbal or pharmaceutical) to remove these parasites from the intestines (large and small) which is the problem. If parasites remain in the intestinal area and other organs it is impossible to get over this part of the illness as it keeps regenerating from whatever organs it is in and going to the skin. I believe the liver and gall bladder are involved as well as far as hiding places. I have seen these worms under every lesion I have had after the initial onset of my illness was over. In the past I had some other critters in the lesions, too, but that was when I first got sick.
__________________ "Have courage for the great sorrows of life and patience for the small ones; and when you have laboriously accomplished your daily task, go to sleep in peace. God is awake." Victor Hugo, French dramatist, novelist, & poet (1802 - 1885) Last edited by tcmgpt13; February 9th, 2010 at 11:26 AM. |
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| Hi Guys, Ninety-one% alcohol will do the same thing. I for a while was wiping down with it and I got so so sore on my shoulders and upper arms. I'm telling you it hurt so bad to raise my arms, I had to stop using it. Now I just use it in small areas. It will bring out the little cocoons, but you have to remove them before the alcohol dries or they just re-stick to you. Now on this grey blackish line you see down in the leison, it is some sort of worm. Two places on my face, I dug so deep that that it crawled out. One I don't know where it went and the second one I squished on my nose. Because of that I could not identfy it. It is one of the life cycles of this parasite though. Next stage up in the skin is the white worms. Then at the last layer up the little white fiber cocoons that if given the chance will fly off. That is what all the lint is about flying around and on your clothes. This is an infestation through the whole body and they can't kill it. I've had two derm drs say to me "so you think your infested". I have never used that word. I tell them I don't know what I have. They like that answer. As you all know if you say the word morgellons or this looks or acts like bugs, you are sent to the crazy dr. This is the biggest secret of the medical comunity. They do NOT want people to know about this. IMHO. I'll tell you who I think is really on to something, and that is our very own Jo. I have on the top of my left wrist a round spot that was a leison years ago. It looks like I have been imbossed. It is an imprint of a little wasp or an ant. I've studied and studied it but just can't tell exactly. What ever this is, it paratizes everything that enters your enviorment. Alot of you have done very well at beating it back in the body, but I sure wish we coul find something to KILL it. I'm not doing to good at the fight. I feel this is what is behind my back disability. Also this gets into heart and lungs. At the onset of this my heart would race and hurt. Now the symptoms are very scarry episodes of anxiety and not being able to breathe. Like I have said before, I don't see why they don't at least TRY to help us. C |
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| No, what I see beneath the skin looks like a worm. It is not in a cocoon form--it more resembles a mucus like texture. And alcohol will not remove it as it is embedded in the muscle. This is what I mean about different parasites possibly being involved with each of us. Harvey even said that not everyone he tested had parasites and those which were found were often different. I had one deep in my lower leg on the side and it looked nearly like a sea anemone (this was four years into this infestation). It was spaghetti like and had about eight or more of these shapes tethered together in the leg. Sometimes I think it was tied into the bone as it was so painful, but of course I cannot be sure. It hurt like anything and if it was touched something came out which looked like small eggs, each of whatever they are did this, as if they were a hollow tube to release this. I never could get rid of it entirely and so let the area heal over (the pain was too much after about two months). The thin black line could be a parasite, but when some of this was on the surface of the skin, it did not act like a worm, so I am somewhat puzzled about what it is. The reason I believe that what I have has been or is still in the liver is that the blackish lines on the surface skin in that area led to the yellow like worm deeper down in that same area when I treated the area. I saw this about two years after getting sick. At that time I treated those lines with black salve and that ate down into where those two critters were hiding. I don't know what this is (except weird), but I can say that treating the skin in that liver area was both painful and prolonged. Well, any of it is painful once it goes into the deeper areas beyond the skin. My doctor used to think anything I saw was viral particles. Whatever. I never argued. I have never found it productive to argue with doctors as they are so set in their ways. Besides I never really described what I saw in great detail anyway, as I knew I would be dismissed as either crazy or silly. Still he did give me ivermectin and even albendazole, so who knows? Maybe he did believe some of those healed over tracts on the skin indicated an earlier parasite infection. Oh yes, C, I agree with you this is in the lung and heart at some point. Once I was treating with the black salve on my foot (those worms again) and I could smell it and feel it in my lungs (this salve has a distinct odor). So I said thank you to God, as I know this salve also treats cancer. This is all I can do and this is why I have kept at it. Also I think it is very important to treat the intestinal areas with herbs. It is not a cure (so far anyway), but it does help keep the infection down.
__________________ "Have courage for the great sorrows of life and patience for the small ones; and when you have laboriously accomplished your daily task, go to sleep in peace. God is awake." Victor Hugo, French dramatist, novelist, & poet (1802 - 1885) Last edited by tcmgpt13; February 9th, 2010 at 11:58 AM. |
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| Yes, TCM, I too believe this thing is tied to the bone. I think it anchors itself there. I know what this thing I have looks like on the skin and it carries the same pattern, given a long enough incubation. I would like to post a drawing of what the form is on my skin - working on that. Nothing, IMHO, works as well on the lesion as the zinc, BECAUSE - and some of these things are so hard to describe, it kills the entire organism, not just the lesion itself. I think these are 4 inches in length from mouth to tail, and the lesion is in the middle. When I put the Zinc on there it turns the parts along the head and tail to mush also when I didn't even put it on there - like it's getting to the animal itself. I know I sound crazy. I'm not. sar |
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| Sar, if I get another lesion I will try the zinc powder. I am hoping that lesion formation will not appear this spring (I have an autumn/spring pattern) after seeing so many parasites leave lately with the use of some new herbs. I can hope anyway. I have been fortunate so far not to have as many parasitic lesions as some folks have. I did have quite a few viral lesions on my back, but those cleared with the use of acyclovir. The symptoms we have are quite bizarre, but all we can do is report what we see. I think what I am seeing differs from what you are seeing somewhat, but that seems to be the way of this disease. We all have had different exposures, so it seems reasonable to expect differences in parasites as well as other infections. If you sound crazy for reporting what you have I do too, but I know neither of us is crazy. Just tired of self treatment and pain along with frustration that we have to self treat. At least we still have that option. tcm
__________________ "Have courage for the great sorrows of life and patience for the small ones; and when you have laboriously accomplished your daily task, go to sleep in peace. God is awake." Victor Hugo, French dramatist, novelist, & poet (1802 - 1885) |
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| I continue to use zinc powder (opening up the capsules) and zinc tincture (the kind with the dropper, called Ionic Zinc) - I take some internally but have slowed down on the high dosage, as continuing a high dosage causes problems. Standard dose for me now is 50 mg. per day, or less. For the lesions, it is amazing how the zinc clears out the lesion. It leaves a big BIG crater in the skin, where IMO the larva was. I had one tonight that I've been treating with zinc for 3 days and I pulled off the "toxins" - it was about an inch in diameter and the crater in my forehead is almost a half inch deep! That's deep, people. Yes, it's scary to see that big hole (and others) but it is cleaning out long-standing lesions. The liquid ionic zinc is very helpful as one doesn't have to deal with powder spilling around. BTW, I just put some drops of the ionic zinc on a bandaid (enough to saturate the pad of the bandaid), and put it on the lesion. For good measure, you can put some of the zinc powder on there too. I use zinc rather than some of the other remedies posted here because I know people are often deficient in zinc. AND it kills nematodes. AND it's cheap. It won't hurt you, in moderation. AND you can buy it at any store. You'll have to go to the health food store for the ionic zinc though. Is anyone else putting zinc on lesions? I would like to hear your experience if you are.... Peace. sar Last edited by sarothra; March 1st, 2010 at 02:46 AM. |
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| Yes Sar, Zinc does seem to help, sometimes even better than my neem shampoo. I use the store brand of Head & Shoulders because it costs less. Pyrithione Zinc is the ingredient in this shampoo. It does sting a little but works better than Selsun Blue in my experience. I alternate among the three shampoos and it seems to not lose its effectiveness. Leave it on as long as you can stand it in the shower. ![]() Morgan |
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| Hi Sar, I will try it on my scalp and let you know if it helps.i only have a few pimple like ledions on my lower back and one on my wrist i'll try it on them also! i'll let you know how it works! Thanks xxoo Robin |
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