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Old March 24th, 2010, 02:45 AM
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WARNING: THIS HURTS

I'm not kidding, this really hurts, but really rocks to kill the larva/parasite underneath the lesion. Overnight you will see whatever is eating us turn to yellow mush.

You get zinc capsules and open them up. The lesion has to be open for the zinc to work. Pore that zinc powder on there and stand back because you're going to be in really bad pain for about 10 minutes. After that it is bearable.

I took 2 Vicodin and 4 Advil so I could endure it.

Not recommending that, just sayin'....I did that.

This killed some stubborn lesions nothing else touched.

It takes a while to heal after that, and to speed up the cleaning out of the debris I used the probiotic powder.

See my thread about that...

There are so many treatments out there I really don't expect anyone to listen but my conscience really pushed me to post on this.

It's cheap. It really kills it. Try it if you want.

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Hi Sarothra,

What form of zinc did you use?
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Old March 24th, 2010, 10:07 PM
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Default I have used ZINC

DESITIN ORIGINAL, 40% ZINC OXIDE, This also SOFTENS the scar skin around the lesions especially if wrapped under plastic wrap!


The other melter of lesion white plastic is the lowly box of BAKING SODA, it hurts quite a bit when it starts working, but it works wonders.

I will try the zinc at some point, but if it burns bad and costs more than baking soda I would do the backing soda, OR try them both, and use them both.

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Old March 25th, 2010, 01:42 AM
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Hi Sarothra,

What form of zinc did you use?
I use ZINC CAPSULES - any brand will do, really, but I have used Solaray and Vitamin Shoppe brands. There is white powder inside the capsules. You open up a capsule and pour the white powder on the lesions, as much as you can get on them.

Alternately, you can put some grapefruit seed extract on a bandaid (because it's sticky - and of course is helpful too) and put the zinc powder on the bandaid, then stick it on the lesion. Anything to get the zinc powder on the lesion.

I have had lesions that were "sealed" over, with the "callous" skin, and I do break open the skin with a pair of clean tweezers so that I can treat the underlying area with the zinc powder. The zinc won't work unless the lesion is open.

Then within 24 hours, you will see the zinc start to dissolve the material in the lesion, turning it into a combination of yellow and black gunk.

IT IS WONDERFUL TO WATCH!

If you have a lesion that you've had for a long time (like a year) you will have to treat it multiple times.

I also bought some IONIC ZINC, which is in a tincture bottle, usually found in any health food store.

There are other things that work to put on the lesions, but here are the reasons I use zinc:

1. Zinc is a necessary mineral in human health.

2. Zinc is relatively non-toxic, and is used in high-zinc therapy for several conditions.

3. Zinc is known to be toxic to nematodes (along with several other minerals).

4. Most people are deficient in zinc anyway, and getting additional amounts can only be good, as long as one doesn't consistently get more than 75 mg. per day. (some say maximum is 50 mg.)

5. Zinc is universally available, and inexpensive.

6. Zinc is safe for children and animals.

7. There is no brand name and it can't be patented.

8. It can cause nausea and/or diarrhea in some people (to take internally), but people can still experience its healing properties by putting it directly on the skin.

I have noted that some people receive benefits from using zinc oxide creams, etc., but in my experience nothing does the trick like straight zinc right out of the capsule.

The tincture works too, but will not clear out a big lesions as well as the powder.

SUGGESTION: Get some numbing stuff, like burn spray (LIDOCAINE) and put that on the lesion first, or take some Advil or pain reliever of your choice prior to putting the powder on. It will make the pain more bearable. It is definitely worth the pain to get rid of these things.

I am much more confident about my ability to manage this condition knowing I can put the zinc on any new-forming lesion and stop it in its tracks.

sar
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Old March 25th, 2010, 02:00 AM
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Your reasons all have validity Sarothra.

The lesions that are erupting are not new they are just being forced out into the open for some reason, if the zinc is taking them out quickly, that is wonderful. It actually may mean they are dying.

I know one thing, they are near impossible to kill, if the zinc will do this I'll take that pain with a smile on my face.

You said it creates a hole, that is promising, the hole means you are killing what makes the LESION/TUMOR.

If this is what it does I know by now Sarotra that you have seen the vein that feeds the TUMOR.

I do have a small one on the back of my neck, tomorrow I will go and get the zinc powder and some silver drops for my eyes. I will be very happy to see this work.

I will take the Zinc powder because it may kill the lesion AND it will make me more VIRILE. LOL!!
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Old March 25th, 2010, 03:02 AM
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Hi Barack,

I see you're a latenighter, like myself...

Yes, using the zinc powder creates a BIG CRATER - I guess I should have explained that a little to some of the newbies --- it can be VERY SCARY to look at --

But you and I know -- because we know we have to kill what lies deep within -- that until you clear out that crud that area will never heal.

I had one MASSIVE crater on my upper arm 2 inches by 1 inch and almost 3/4 of an inch deep! I am not kidding! It was scary to look at, but that's what it takes. I had to treat that one 4 times. When I put the zinc on there I thought I would pass out. Well, I didn't, but I was doing all kinds of screaming, twitching, pacing -- trying to stand it.

I finally just took some old Vicodin I had (which I never take) - I have to be really really dying from pain before I'll take something like that --

BUT IT WAS WORTH IT.

My upper arm is almost healed.

If there is any question whether or not you've got it all, put more zinc powder on it. LIke I said, you can numb it first, although, frankly that doesn't help much.

BUT -- the worst of the pain only lasts about 10 minutes. Then you can stand it. We can stand anything for 10 minutes, right? RIGHT!

One thing I can say for certain - it takes the itch out....smiles.

Hey, keep fightin' the good fight...

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Old March 25th, 2010, 03:48 AM
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I use ZINC CAPSULES - any brand will do, really, but I have used Solaray and Vitamin Shoppe brands. There is white powder inside the capsules. You open up a capsule and pour the white powder on the lesions, as much as you can get on them.

Alternately, you can put some grapefruit seed extract on a bandaid (because it's sticky - and of course is helpful too) and put the zinc powder on the bandaid, then stick it on the lesion. Anything to get the zinc powder on the lesion.

I have had lesions that were "sealed" over, with the "callous" skin, and I do break open the skin with a pair of clean tweezers so that I can treat the underlying area with the zinc powder. The zinc won't work unless the lesion is open.

Then within 24 hours, you will see the zinc start to dissolve the material in the lesion, turning it into a combination of yellow and black gunk.

IT IS WONDERFUL TO WATCH!

If you have a lesion that you've had for a long time (like a year) you will have to treat it multiple times.

I also bought some IONIC ZINC, which is in a tincture bottle, usually found in any health food store.

There are other things that work to put on the lesions, but here are the reasons I use zinc:

1. Zinc is a necessary mineral in human health.

2. Zinc is relatively non-toxic, and is used in high-zinc therapy for several conditions.

3. Zinc is known to be toxic to nematodes (along with several other minerals).

4. Most people are deficient in zinc anyway, and getting additional amounts can only be good, as long as one doesn't consistently get more than 75 mg. per day. (some say maximum is 50 mg.)

5. Zinc is universally available, and inexpensive.

6. Zinc is safe for children and animals.

7. There is no brand name and it can't be patented.

8. It can cause nausea and/or diarrhea in some people (to take internally), but people can still experience its healing properties by putting it directly on the skin.

I have noted that some people receive benefits from using zinc oxide creams, etc., but in my experience nothing does the trick like straight zinc right out of the capsule.

The tincture works too, but will not clear out a big lesions as well as the powder.

SUGGESTION: Get some numbing stuff, like burn spray (LIDOCAINE) and put that on the lesion first, or take some Advil or pain reliever of your choice prior to putting the powder on. It will make the pain more bearable. It is definitely worth the pain to get rid of these things.

I am much more confident about my ability to manage this condition knowing I can put the zinc on any new-forming lesion and stop it in its tracks.

sar
Thanks Sorotha,

I just purchased angstrom zinc from this site along with some other things.

Kornax.com

I will try the powder too.

I used PRID salve last night and tonight had a couple huge white fiber balls emerge. I will buy some of the powder and see if it helps some older ones that I can't seem to beat.

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Old March 25th, 2010, 03:51 AM
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Thanks for your ideas as well Barack.

I wonder if that is why I itched so bad after using the baking soda in the shower? Maybe it was breaking something down. hmmm
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Hi Sar,


Thank you for the great info on Zinc. You made the comment, "Then within 24 hours, you will see the zinc start to dissolve the material in the lesion, turning it into a combination of yellow and black gunk. "

Can you tell me approx. when the pain would begin? I am mixing desitin 40% with Zinc powder for in my ear. I want to go slower at the pain level since my main problem is deep in my ear canal.

I am also alternating others things with GSE in my ear thanks to BarO. I am also slowly starting to increase the amount of GSE on my head to see if I have problems there too.
Thankfully inside my head is the only place that I am having problems.


Thank so much! When it starts hurting, you will hear me screaming for at least 10 min. Can I say a few bad words also? lol
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Old March 25th, 2010, 12:47 PM
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yes you did, you hit the nail on the head, I am not sure but almost positive,and I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken, anyway, the underskin tumor thing has got to go.

Now Sarothra I would like you to answer one thing, have you seen the central vein that the blood comes out of even after all of the muck is taken out, the deepest part of the LESION/TUMOR will have the feeding blood vein. I know you can not miss this thing, when it is all cleaned away it will appear as a red or purple looking spot surronded by white material at one point.

I do know the hole you had in your arm, was the material you were dissolving, flesh, I already know the answer. The real flesh does not dissolve.

Good find I can not wait to get some, actually it reminds me of the reaction from a anti cancer salve I used, it was called PDQ cancer cream. You know what they are probably selling zinc, for $100 for a tiny bottle. I know one thing when people saw it dissolve their skin away where ever the fake skin was they must have freaked and sued. How could one tiny little red spot, what doctors call cancer, dissolve away half a nose. Funny thing it grows back nicely, let the doctor cut it out you have no nose left. That idiot took after my nose with the scaple and shaved dam near a nostril off. LOL, needless to say he heard from me, and that was the end of his fun and games, he called me to tell me it was cancer, I think he thru it in the waste basket or got a report back that said it was FIBROUS MATERIAL just like the other one. I will tell you what, he wanted to still cut my nose off, maybe to split my face open,LOL. Who knows.

That lends me to wonder, how many people have this and get brain operations coming from fake cancer diagnosis, even though it is a mass it does not mean cancer.

Then you think of ALZHEIMERS, that also is a FIBROUS MATERIAL so is mad cow disease, wow take it out, take it all out.

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Old March 25th, 2010, 01:24 PM
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Chatcat, I know that the ear is a very sensitive area for pain. Any chance you could get something stronger for pain from a doctor? There is a black cancer salve I have used which causes severe pain for those who have deeper cancers in the body (it can travel from the treated area to deeper areas and even travel long distances in the body as it spreads). I have a friend who used this salve behind her ear, not in it (she was partially deaf and wanted to see if it would help the dampness she felt was in her head and ears). Both she and her friend had extensive herbal training. Even so she had to use something for the severe pain the salve caused her (and she never treated her other ear). So I hope you have an understanding doctor who is willing to help with a script if you need it. My friend did recover a bit of hearing from that, but she was still essentially deaf. Personally I think more extreme treatments like this are best done with the help of someone familiar with such treatments, like an herbalist. Zinc powder in the ear might cause problems and could be a risk to your hearing.
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