Anyone tried anything from a Naturopath/N.D. that worked?!

[Cayly]

I feel sure I got Ms from rotting leaf mould from a neglected garden. I cleared several bags of this slimy stuff, and almost at the same time got a bite on my back that did not heal. Soon after I began to get itchy patches that did not respond to treatment, and thought I had scabies, - it was months after I discovered from the internet (after attending a Dermatologist and getting nowhere) I had all the symptoms of Morgellons. That was nearly 2 years ago and the struggle goes on. However, we are all learning together - and now with all my new found friends here on this site feel there is always more answers and more solutions to help us cope with the various stages of this disease. Thanks everyone.

Cayly

[Enviro Girl]

Hi Cayly! GREAT Job on pin-pointing your agrobacterium infection connection!!! Only 2 years ago means it will not take that long for you to heal, though! (2-3 mos to heal for every yr. infected is naturopathy rule but you can EXPEDITE it: treat your co-infections from what they tell you in your consultation, see my first post here for what else I did besides my favorite new herbs.) I also quit taking the BC pill hoping I would heal faster, cuz I heard it gives you Candida...I have TOTAL hope now that we are going to get through this!
If you haven't found something that gets you better than 98% (I'm still healing daily, can't say 100% yet - inside and mentally, yes 100% but I have 4 tiny marks left that are vanishing, then I will be so excited to scream CURE!!!!) here's my people...

http://www.precisionherbs.com/downlo...isionHerbs.pdf

http://www.drovermannd.com/downloads...tationForm.pdf

Keep stayin' strong, let's CRUSH this THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bee]

EnviroGirl, I've had muscle testing before, but I never heard of handwriting and photos being used ?

[jonsi]

Hi,

My doctor is a chiropractor that practices natureopathic medicine. I am healthy (but I still have "M" living in me). If you live close to northern New Mexico I hope you can go see him. He saved my life!

Using muscle testing/desensitization he found parasites, fungal/mold infections, food allergies, lymes, and he even has a kit to test for "M" and desensitizes patients for that too. I still have to take liquid balsamea extract daily for the lymes.

I try to eat natural/organic foods as much as possible. I only take homeopathic medicine.

PM me if anyone wants more info...I'll give you his name (I don't want to post it on the open forum).

In the white light,
~jonsi

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[Enviro Girl]

Thanks, Jonsi, but I'm already 98% better - I want us to have a CURE. I talked with Doc's office yesterday, they got harassed by the Forcing Drugs Admin as soon as I posted them on turdwatch.com. – So, I kinda had to warn them I was posting about them/Batten Down the Hatches!...They know we're up against a bit of a Corruption Crew and they're not going to be chased off from helping US. If they get bothered again due to me posting them, for trying to help us safely out of this HELL - I'm going to FLIP: I used to work in media, so I'm going to take a bunch of media out there and I'm gonna film this all, turn it into a Michael Moore-type documentary & call out The Man for trying to stop Morgies from getting better, cuz that aspect of this is just OUTRAGEOUS AND I'VE HAD IT WITH THE NONSENSE: WE WILL HELP OURSELVES AND YOU WILL NOT HINDER US FROM DOING SO OR I AM GOING TO SCREAM CORRUPTION MORE THAN I AM NOW! THEY GET BOTHERED, YOU WILL GET BOTHERED MORE - KEEP PUSHING, CUZ I'M ENJOYING TELLING EVERYBODY HOW YOU TRY TO KEEP AMERICANS FROM GETTING CURED AND YOU CRIMINALS ARE GETTING ME TO A POINT WHERE I'M DEDICATING MY LIFE TO GETTING PEOPLE TO SEE THE BLOOD BIG PHARMA $UCK$. Pardon the tirade, I digress: Precision/Doc's office told me: Post away, we're ready, we're not stopping. (I like, LOVE them for saving US!).
Jonsi, I'm glad to hear you are somewhat better, but if you didn't kill the Morg, I'm sure your doc won't mind you doing so by clicking above. I'd at least have your Doc get in touch w/my Doc, I bet I read of him actually - I saw some linked articles disappear about a Doc in New Mexico what was getting harassed cuz he making waves. Naturopathy is different from homeopathy, I'm liking the concept of naturo a LOT (especially now!). ? - Does your doc know about agrobacterium? I'm waiting til my last 2 marks are gone and getting a recheck to confirm I killed the Morg and then I'll host an Irish Wake for it! My body kind of KNOWS, Jonsi, I can't explain, but I'm trying to keep grounded cuz we all have been let down a lot. I still have a few mos until I should be done healing. I kinda feel like the Morg might be gone now, (!) but I always thought when the last marks were gone, I'd know. I already feel like it's GONE, inside, though. I am so excited, but trying to stay calm until I KNOW...Plus, my ppl can HELP remotely. They can help anyone, anywhere in the world and they don't need to go their office to get help, ASAP. Jonsi: thank you for being kind to Morgies, you guys do a GREAT job of supporting each other on here! I'm real proud to be in the company of you folks - THANK YOU!

[Enviro Girl]

Bee, that holistic I first went to did Remote Muscle, but he didn't fix me - I was told the Morg is tough to pinpoint that way (?). I think Doc is kind of a pioneer with this. I know it isn't mainstream, but mainstream failed. I want to become an ND and go to their school now! HEALING & CURING people for free would be an excellent life-long hobby & volunteer project! I'm kinda thinkin' that would be a such a fun channel for my HATRED of Big Pharma and I would be so happy helping keep people safe/making them better with roots and herbs for $20! That's why I said about litigation before - When money is all these greedy blood $ucker$ care about, that is what you TAKE, so they can't ever do this to ppl again.
Big Pharma gets not one cent from me or anyone I can infuence, ever again Pay it forward, as they say...
"We're not gonna take it, NO we ain't gonna take it...We're not gonna take it anymore" - Twisted Sister
I gotta go get in touch with Joni Mitchell and Michael Moore. Peace!,

[fracty]

I'm waiting til my last 2 marks are gone and getting a recheck to confirm I killed the Morg and then I'll host an Irish Wake for it! My body kind of KNOWS, Jonsi, I can't explain, but I'm trying to keep grounded cuz we all have been let down a lot. I still have a few mos until I should be done healing. I kinda feel like the Morg might be gone now, (!) but I always thought when the last marks were gone, I'd know. I already feel like it's GONE, inside, though.

I agree w you EnviroGirl in that to me it has NEVER been acceptable to think we would be somewhat OK or in remission. I want it 100% gone and I want to KNOW it's gone. (I even have something aobut that posted on my wall, lol.)

Please anyone/everyone take this in a positive way... it is just something I think is important to those of us who feel like we can't bear even one drop of this unhealthy stuff inside of us.

On the one hand, I totally agree w you EG, that sometimes you can just KNOW certain things. There is even scientific research about body cells, etc having knowledge. Often a "gut reaction" is a very accurate gauge of truth, etc.

At the same time, we are human, emotions are involved, etc. I would like to eventually find a 100% accurate test to KNOW it is completely gone. We need a standardized, replicable test we can all use to test even the DEEPEST suckers hiding!!! I know muscle testing works, but I do not know if it would work for every aspect of this eco-virus-thing. Some people might have miraculous exceptions where they just know it is resolved, but it would still be nice to have something to validate and confirm those feelings - and make it available to everyone.

I rarely have any marks on my skin at this point, although I am not sure if any of the "moles" are still appearing. I haven't noticed any new ones lately. But I know the M is still there and attacking in other ways.

For various reasons I am positive this partially resides in the DNA and chromosomes, etc., but can also go deeper into hiding. So in fighting against this and finding solutions, we need a test that can find every last pathogen involved and find it even hiding at the deepest level.

[Enviro Girl]

Amen, Fracty! And I think after our other interatcion, you can see that I'm not operating so much on chic's intuition...I saw early on what they said about us, that we all wanted to have this, would blame IT on anything - So, I went after facts and durn it, if I don't have them. The only way I *know* any of this is because it may have started out as a hunch, then I went and found my FACTS. I don't post junk, we have paid DISinformation agents involved that do that for us. I have one way to kinda verify it's gone. But that's a new science to me and unh - I think part of it is Quantam Physics (?)...We're talking about our DNA, here, I ain't playin'...So, I wanted a botantist or someone (?) to go type the strain of GM agrobac that is likely going to be on The Tree I backed into 03/25/06, cuz this type of tree is commonly treated w/my least favorite bac as a sapling, in nurseries (this pesticide sounds like No Gall), before planting, as many trees and plants are - and then to verify my hunch that that exact same strain of GM agrobac was exuding from my lesions and in my blood. A few labs in town I tried didn't even know what IT was...Once I thought I found a lab willing to type strains...Fracty, you know how that ended
It's a gram-negative bacteria, a doc I dated told me. We need a biologist/geneticist who won't back down from the facts (his work won't soon be for sale). Not a Morgie biologist/gen - cuz if anyone later can use this for litigation or even just to prevent the paid-for denials that will follow if we attempt to present FACTS, they'll say 'that's biased.' I'm in, Fracty, I want double-triple-verification...who's typing our strains?!!! We can test now and post-cure
Let's clean up this mess!!!

[Katinka]

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[Enviro Girl]

No worries, Kat...I've seen the predators out there, I'm glad there's more of us looking to protect our fellow-Morgies.
I only found them cuz I went to a holistic for Morgellon's and he didn't get it right, but he prescribed me something else from a co. called Precision Herbs, in OH. I'm skeptical as heck now, so I called to check 'em out, they seemed nice, it was a real biz. - I figured I'm pretty desperate, what the hay?!...After I had given the holistic's stuff a chance and it didn't work, I remembered them and called and asked if they had anything for Morgellon's. That's how it ALL began. I went and read about Doc Overman's global work and went: Hmmm. I've only been consulted by them for Morgellon's thus far but when anything else happens, they are now & will always be my new PCP. I know Doc is/was a Methodist priest before becoming an N.D.. He's been teaching other naturopaths, I think, for years - I know a nuritionist here in Pittsburgh that went to their school. That is the college part. Then there's the clinic part, Overman's Healthy Choices. The membership aspect, that is new - they had to become A Private Healthcare Membership Assoc due to FDA harassment (see first link/'membership' forms), which began to occur promptly after I posted their name on turdwatch.com. I think the word cult's a little harsh, though. If the CEOs of Merck, Bayer Agro Science and Monsanto had been priests, we might all not be in this pickle, in the first place. I became a distributor cuz I got my own stuff cheaper and I ONLY let one person, Cali Morgie, buy through me because I cut my discount down to the minimum and now it is cheaper for her than what they sell it for. Please see my new Treatment Post. It isn't instant and I've clearly said so, several times: but as a victim who has healed 99% and is still healing daily, I'd be lying if I said it wasn't a miracle and I don't lie. Cuz there's enough of that going on, too. Yeah, I'm going to the college someday though, I think I posted on that about here, already. This all made me want to become an N.D.. I didn't think it was conventional, either - but neither is Morgellon's. Kat, I went through the same hell w/mainstream docs and that is what led me here...If it's not mainstream enough for people, I guess they can keep waitin' for the CDC to save 'em.
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Enviro Girl, just jumped in here and was wondering, are you referring to this site: Precision Herbs,A Private Healthcare Membership Association.: Christian College of Natural and Spiritual Health? Are you looking for members to promote selling this advertised stuff ? or is this some kind of cult?

Many of us have gone through terrible issues with our docs and on top of it all, people from all over are trying to sell 'instant cure' and 'miracle healing' for Morgellons Sufferers at the Internet..we can't take that anymore!

Please understand, that I'm suspicious..there's just too much going on, you know?