Anyone tried anything from a Naturopath/N.D. that worked?!

[Enviro Girl]

Prolly, Kritts - I read everything I could get my hands on since 03/25/06. I think agrobacterium vs. ending it in ia will bring up even more fun results for you, but I read/heard enough EVIDENCE that IT was our culprit, so I moved on. Watch what links you post, information has a way of disappearing...
I'm more concerned now with:
- killing IT safely and inexpensively
- making sure I help every last person I can encounter
- taking action against those who deliberately hurt us/covered this up
- making sure we get justice
- forcing the EPA to ban pesticides containing agrobacterium if I have to slap that Polluter Protection Agency with a fat lawsuit (just like the case brought recently in CA against the EPA for the pesticide that killed 30K honeybees) because I want people protected from this, permanently
- lead class action litigation on the Big Agrophiles who use Agrobacterium in pesticides
- organize DOP malpractice class action suit
- align with others to make sure no more GM freak bacteria poison the globe/increased regulation of BioTech
- write a book and make so much noise, FOREVER so that nobody ever thinks about harming people like this again
- Party like it's 1999 - cuz every day I feel better and better to the point I am shocked and I feel REALLY blessed to have found the way to get well
- dress up like Enviro Girl next Halloween

[Kritters]

Well E girl~

You certainly are taking on the world and I hope we can muster as much help here as possible. So far, you are the only one who participates here who has a plan and plans to do something like this. I admire your constitution and intestinal fortitude!

~Kritts

[Bee]

Enviro Girl I get the theory, but I am not surprized a disease like this is happening nor do I blame anyone. It was bound to happen, messing with mother nature the way they do. Just coz they can doesn't mean they should.
But they did in search of a better way and they screwed up big time. Who is too say things are not unfolding the way they should be or been predicted in the bible. Because of lawsuits they can't come forward and admit it. That's another thing wrong with this world, suing and blameing. That time and money would be better spent on a cure. I believe, if they were to open their Eyes And Ears studing Morgellons,parasites,fungus and agribacteria, It will lead to curing many different diseases, with natural remedies.
I also believe it might be best for people to find out about M on a need to know basis to avoid mass hysteria. The world must carry on. They can't tell everyone to stop eating the food that carries M. If they did we'd all have to turn our homes into vegetable gardens , wear spandex suits and stay indoors.
So unless they have a sure cure I don't expect any announcment.

I don't even really blame the doctors either, they only know what they're taught and they have a certain protocol book they must follow. Or be sued.
I believe the Medical Soceity avoided deworming people because they know parasites will eventually become resistant to all meds, like bacteria and antibiotics. I don't get why they thought deworming animals would be OK and not us.

The one theory I don't believe is the government is trying to eliminate us.
Unless they intend to replace us with Hiatcians.

[Enviro Girl]

Bee, 1 of 2 items I can agree with you on here is that MUCH more regulation is needed on BioTech. I read Russia bans our corn. The Polluter Protection Agcy prolly didn't know in 1979 but they knew by 2001. Check it out, scientists were warning the EPA for years. That’s when corruption kicked in to cover this up. I’m sorry, but does Uncle Sam not have a responsibility to take action to protect citizens? Isn't that one of the reasons we pay taxes? How can you make excuses for every aspect of this?
I understand the urge to sue: Oops - I think I can't have children now (they are born with Morgellon's - you know that, right?), so my life has officially been RUINED. My dream of a family: Gone - because I was fool enough to clean up litter. Did I deserve Morgellon's Disease as a payback for my stewardship? Forget my life, I'm just a tad offended at thousands being told they are kooks, making marks on their bodies for attention, when they take evidence to mainstream docs whose continuing education is paid for by Merck and these docs have their heads too buried in the sand to not see the Strangle-Hold Big Pharma has on them, as well as the rest of the country. Do you know DOP misdiagnosers tell our families, behind our backs, not to acknowledge our physical symptoms because it ‘encourages our delusions’?! You are aware there have been suicides of Morgellon's victims, right? Corruption is the only answer to this riddle – but I ain’t laughin’!
There's something called 'absolute liability' - that means when you are performing dangerous operations (BioTech) that could harm others, you have an additional, BIG responsibility to not F up. So, I'm not going to feel bad when CEO's of Bio-Care, Bayer Agro Science, Monsanto and some corrupt GOV & AMA employees get pink slips. Their ignorant carelessness and GREED ruined the earth. More importantly, they hurt us. Worse yet, they tell us we're nuts. Even worse, they're going to HINDER us from helping ourselves to get better. How much more insulting can this all get? I’m sorry, but a lawsuit and a pink slip are the nicest things I want to give any of these criminals.
At one point, over 40 senators and congressmen had politely asked the CDC for help after years of pleas from their districts – I HAVE A F@#$ING FOLLOW UP FLAG IN MY OUTLOOK CALENDAR, DOES WASHINGTON?! I MIGHT HAVE OH, SAY FOLLOWED UP TO CHECK IN ON THE CDC AND DEMANDED MORE RESULTS, AFTER 8 YEARS OF THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR ME ASKING FOR MY HELP THAN - 11/04/09, CDC: We formed a panel to study the study and we’ll holla back at you after we check in with our ‘stakeholders’. Corruption can be the only answer to the riddle – but I ain’t laughin’!
Bee, The REAL reason other countries' GOVTs deworm and ours doesn't: Again, Big Pharma Corruption slithering into AMA training (docs CE is often paid for by Big Pharma = FACT). PARASITES ULTIMATELY CAUSE CANCER AND IF WE PREVENT CANCER - GEE, WHAT ABOUT ALL THAT TREATMENT MONEY THAT IS LOST FOREVER?! (See Hulda Clark) Corruption is the only answer to this riddle – but I ain’t laughin’!
I just looked on that nanotransformation site Kritters posted and saw info. that agrobacterium was in the Swine Flu Vaccine - SWEET. We know it's dangerous since 2001, that's it's been implicated as a cause of an emerging new disease, so let's not only allow its continued usage in pesticides, let's inject it into Unsuspecting America - after we induce fear that they will DIE if they don't get this new vaccine. Not only are the powers that be gonna let Morgellon's go on, they're going to inject agrobacterium into US/children, after they induce fear over a GM flu that I read was intentionally shipped out to 18 countries by Baxter Pharmaceuticals in Austria last February. (again w/the Tax Dollars and more regulation needed on Bio Tech). Vitamin D is supposed to be the natural swine flu ward off, BTW. Corruption is the only answer to this riddle – but I ain’t laughin’!
Bee, I was trying not to go there, but I think you should go look up the term Illuminati and prepare yourself for more bad news. I’m sorry, in advance.
Kritts, you see from your link/nano site?: I'm pleased to see the UK is now having a parlimentary inquiry about Big Pharma's role with WHO officials in the Swine Flu Hoax and Vaccine Push - COOL, I wish we could do that!!! The 30K dead honeybees lawsuit precedent in CA against the EPA seems like a start for stopping AGROBAC!!!
It's not the whole US GOV keeping Morgellon's in the dark, Bee - all it takes is a few BAD apples.
Item 2 of 2 we can agree on: Morgellon's IS written of in the Bible. Agrobac is a thing causes many things. You get IT, you are getting co-infections for life. THEY NEED TO STOP SPREADING CANCER! Thank you to those in MSM that tried to help us and got chased out of states and practice, risking yourselves and families to help us. The stories of you fighting to help us may get erased from the web, but we'll never forget! I know there are many good MD/dermatols & docs out there that would have helped us if they wouldn’t have been trained not to. I'm not trying not to blast ALL of MSM, but this has hurt people and destroyed families so badly. I know those who try to help are audited, slandered, libeled and you all are scared to even try to help us. Thank you to the non-MSM docs who have stood up to being harassed by the Forcing Drugs Admin, who are going to save us with roots and herbs no one can ever patent! People needed you practitioners and researchers that HELPED so much, I can't thank you enough for not being part of this Evil Torture. Please spread the word this is Agrobac in pesticides, that we think it’s in non-Morgies blood, too and we think ticks carry it. Please help us finish this battle! Together, we can fix this
Bee, it hurts my heart to be the messenger. I'm sorry this happened to you and all of us. But if we all start making excuses for Uncle Sam's inaction and accept being doused, fed and injected with BioChem Warfare and being used as Guinea Pigging Cash Cows for Big Pharma and if no one stands up to this NWO Population Reduction Plot and takes on the DEVIL: I'd say we can expect Morgellon's and more...

[Bee]

Well I don't know where to start.But I don't think they do know agrobacterium
can or has effected us. I just seen on TV last week they are experimenting in making plastic with it, to decompose quicker.
Along with confirmation of Morgellons will come discrimination. As much as confirmation would relieve some anxiety, it will be replaced by rejection.
Do you think anyone will want to touch your money then ? Or your coworkers will want to sit next to you, the person in line behind you will recognize your lesions and all of a sudden people only want organic foods and there's not enough.
Even IF M would be CLM disease and no other theory applied, the prognosis is not good, only some people would be cured.According to both medical and homeopathic info.

[Kritters]

Bee~

This is going to happen whether or not we have anything to say about it:
GM Crops Meltdown in the US

Farmers in India are committing suicide because they used the gm seeds we sold them or gave them and it ruined their crops.

Kritts

[Enviro Girl]

Hi Bee! I'm glad I didn't offend you, I just want to protect US so badly and I get real upset with each new victim - we shouldn't have to go through this. I have a Morgie-friend in Cali that caught IT 20 years ago, riding horses (pesticide on the fields), I think you reminded of me her and the horses...I would KILL for her and what she's been through. Her 2 kids were born w/Morgellon's. I'm sorry if my info-dispersion wasn't gentle - I'll work on it. (channel the rage)
2 ?'s What's CLM disease? What station/where did you see this about plastic?
That is scary about the plastic, but not a surprise - Illuminati got reach. They want all of us sick and want to torture many through various ways such as economic strife (oil prices), disease - they want as many of us cursing God's name as possible so that when the end of days comes, they win. Not gonna happen. I didn't want to believe NWO myself, I cried, but I think that is also true. So, we don't let them win. We learn and we protect ourselves. God didn't make Morgellon's, man did.
We don't need to worry about social discrimination. WE ARE GONNA BE FINE. I told y'all how to get your lesions to vanish like mine have. More importantly, I'm better inside, too. (I'm trying not to get too excited but I was so scared we were gonna be stuck w/this, forever - Try again, Illum!) Besides, it sounds non-Morgies have agrobac infections internally anyway, we are just the ones rejecting IT (I suspect because Morgies contract Agrobac through the skin vs. internally like the rest of the world). As far as organics, if you read about how agrobac was found to be piercing lab gloves around 2001 - and understand that it infects plants, animals, humans... Think about blades of grass...from one to the other, soil around it is infected - BOOM, it spread like wildfire 'round the globe, starting in '79. And if agrobac is found in chem trails - I personally don't see how even Organics can be safe. Unless they are grown inside, maybe there's an island this hasn't ruined - kinda doubt it. I don't know much about organics, maybe someone that does can chime in and tell us how they ward it off - because otherwise, it would spread, that's what IT does. Even if the organic farm is clean/safe, so then there's a chem trail nearby one day and IT's going to ultimately infect - The damage is already done. That is why we need to figure out a way to kill it in soil/plants to, we'll fiinish cleaning up their mess. I guess I'll just eat normally and take my herbal remedy once a year, but I can't see how Organics can be worth the extra money at this point, unless they are grown in a vault or something (?)
That's why it is so MORONIC to go spreading around what you know to be plant cancer.
I really don't need for the Centers for Disease Cover Up to ride in a white horse - we all already did their jobs for them for 8 years now, what's the point? After what I've seen, I'm not interested in their DISinformation OR their tainted, disease spreading vaccines. If they came out with an antibiotic for Morgies tomorrow - I wouldn't take it, anyway. Just like the Forcing Drugs Admin, I know that's why the say tanning beds are bad - tanning makes your bod produce Vit D, D is awesome for you. I hear their corrupt recommendations now and I think: Thanks - cuz I'll go do the exact opposite I am even more glad than before I didn't get a Swine Flu vaccine!!!

[Bee]

Yeah we're Screwed. I was preached to my whole life about what the end times would be like. I'm not an overly religious person. I try to believe,coz the alternative is not so good either. My dad studied the bible and he was hung up on Healing and Revelations in the bible.He predicted I would see it and he would not.He died 12 years ago. My mom has tapes he made on the subject. I should listen to them. But I do remember him saying over & over again That something would happen and there would be great healing after their Eyes & Ears were open.But it doesn't last, I think 7 years.

And if this is not the beginning of the end, this is just the way it would happen.Some people won't even see the signs.

On a happier note, perhaps We will sprout wings and desend into heaven first

[Bee]

Oh I forgot. CLM = Cataneous Larva Migrans, it's caused by different types of parasites that get in your skin and Hydatid Disease causes sand granuales.
But either explain plastic like fibres ? But we probably all need lifelong dewormers now.

[Enviro Girl]

Papa sounds like a Hip Cat, Bee. I think if you check out my links, you'll feel better when you see who's on our side
My faith wasn't rock solid, either - now, it's cemented. I was sick, I screamed, 'Why Me, God' and he told me plainly: 'You had to see - because someone has to HELP'. Then, he showed me agrobac in pesticides, later chem trails, even the Illuminati. But I was still too sick to fight - so, then he sent me the way to make it better.
Bee, I said back that if I got to understand and get better, I'd give him my life and I'd keep people safe. For him to show me what to do and I'd do it. He sent me people to help with, too...
Funny how you ask and he answers, eh?!
I'm blessed, I am really lucky to have found Doc Overman & his people. THANK GOD!
That's the thing about Evil Plots - Morgellon's did more harm for the Big Pharma cause than it made them money. They shot themselves in the foot w/this one: I didn't hate them before. I didn't even watch the news, much less know enough to distrust these crappy GOV agencies. I coulda cared less. Now, I see it all. You can spot the BS a mile away, once you know. Now, I'm going to become a naturopath. No more meds, ever - for anyone I can influence. Cali Morgie wants to become a naturopath, too. We tell everyone. The word is getting out. Rest assured knowing there's people that have & will continue to risk their lives to get US safely out of Morgellon's - one is typing to you now...There's always gonna be more good people than there are truly bad ones. We learn how to keep ourselves safe and in-the-know and we move on - It's gonna BEE OK!!!
xoxo,