dissolving

[daveaple]

Has anyone figured out a way to chemically dissolve all these fibers that are lying around?

I remember MarkTheBuilder said hydrogen peroxide will do it, but I put some 3 percent peroxide on a fiber and didn't see any dissolving.

[Sadsack]

First, it is very hard to distinguish normal environmental textiles from Morgellons fibers without high power magnification. (Of course, if they are in your skin, that's a no-brainer). Once they escape that is tough.

According to Dr. Wymore, the visual difference is that textiles have extrusion marks (like a bullet has the unique marks of the particular gun it was shot out of; that is a big part of fiber forensics work). And, like pieces of uncooked spaghetti, each end is "cut off" from the manufacturing process.
Morgellons fibers are smooth with no extrusion marks. They also do not have blunt ends, they taper off. They are not manufactured, least not the way textile fibers are.

But I am straying. It may be that you are trying to melt textiles.
One thing that I KNOW melts the kind of Morg fibers that were in my house about 2 1/2 years ago is a strong solution of orange oil and water. My HVAC coils were covered with them, but I had no knowledge of Morgellons at the time. The workman who cleaned the coils sprayed 50/50 water and orange oil on them, and that stuff INSTANTLY melted. The rinse water was full of black specks, which many have reported finding within Morgellons "stuff".

I had another experience with the H202 in a vaporizer. I had it blowing into my bird room (fan behind it). My birds would gather around the vapors and preen themselves. After I lost my beloved companions, I discovered that the floor underneath where they sat and preened was covered with a layer of something that seemed like too much wax. They were all affected by M to various degrees. I was extremely sick at the time and undoubtedly missed a lot.

Or you can try any enzyme based cleaner, like Bioclean.

SS

[daveaple]

Originally Posted by Sadsack

First, it is very hard to distinguish normal environmental textiles from Morgellons fibers without high power magnification. (Of course, if they are in your skin, that's a no-brainer). Once they escape that is tough.

According to Dr. Wymore, the visual difference is that textiles have extrusion marks (like a bullet has the unique marks of the particular gun it was shot out of; that is a big part of fiber forensics work). And, like pieces of uncooked spaghetti, each end is "cut off" from the manufacturing process.
Morgellons fibers are smooth with no extrusion marks. They also do not have blunt ends, they taper off. They are not manufactured, least not the way textile fibers are.

But I am straying. It may be that you are trying to melt textiles.
One thing that I KNOW melts the kind of Morg fibers that were in my house about 2 1/2 years ago is a strong solution of orange oil and water. My HVAC coils were covered with them, but I had no knowledge of Morgellons at the time. The workman who cleaned the coils sprayed 50/50 water and orange oil on them, and that stuff INSTANTLY melted. The rinse water was full of black specks, which many have reported finding within Morgellons "stuff".

I had another experience with the H202 in a vaporizer. I had it blowing into my bird room (fan behind it). My birds would gather around the vapors and preen themselves. After I lost my beloved companions, I discovered that the floor underneath where they sat and preened was covered with a layer of something that seemed like too much wax. They were all affected by M to various degrees. I was extremely sick at the time and undoubtedly missed a lot.

Or you can try any enzyme based cleaner, like Bioclean.

SS

Here are some pics of the kinds of fibers I was experimenting with:

4shared.com - photo sharing - download image fiber1.bmp
4shared.com - photo sharing - download image fiber2.bmp
4shared.com - photo sharing - download image fiber3.bmp
4shared.com - photo sharing - download image fiber4.bmp
4shared.com - photo sharing - download image fiber5.bmp
4shared.com - photo sharing - download image fiber6.bmp
4shared.com - photo sharing - download image fiber7.bmp
4shared.com - photo sharing - download image fiber8.bmp
4shared.com - photo sharing - download image fiber9.bmp

Can you tell if they are textile or m?

[hurtin1]

Those are M fibers Dave....and about all you can do for now is be diligant on keeping your environment clean(vaccuming,ect.)
Alot of people are trying to figure out ways of destroying this stuff,,by experimenting..
And dont stop experimenting too...
I am seeing alot of the same things being DIRECTLY grow out of the wall webs,,and dust...,,,including some of those mutated looking "fiber worms" like the red biting fiber I videoed..
Sometimes if the dust is left to grow,,,it eventually sheds crap,,and it goes airborne,,then we breath it..
Get some disposable gloves,,and some microfibre towels,,to use for wiping surfaces,,to keep from exposing your fingers directly to the protein globs,,spores,,and fiber worms..
Sounds corney and overboard ,,but I use disposable dust masks,,when cleaning,,,because it stirs everything up in the air(cant be helped),,and after a thorough hour of cleaning,,,I fine mist mint oil/water mix in the air ,,and on carpet,,and I find that the fiber zingers flying around stop..
A little pool shock around the base boards(just enough to get a faint whiff now and then,,NOT constant smell),,and this will help clear your nose of the half formed bug boogers..if you have those...(I had them too Morglady,,,your dead on "bout them)
Just remember you cant get it all,,,,,its microscopic,,,,,and its everywhere......
The main thing is to kick the majority of it,, out of your body..
When was the pic of your arm taken,,,,and "How ya holding"????(doing)....
Oh,,,what state ya live in??

[Sadsack]

Dave -

I looked at a lot of the pics that you put up on Photo sharing. Many of them show another characteristic of Morgellons fibers, which I'd failed to mention - and that is that they are not uniform in diameter.

Another characteristic - the tapered ends - is clear on some of the pics.

It isn't possible to tell if extrusion marks are present, at this level of magnification.

So at least some of your samples are Morg fibers.

I also looked at the hairs with "something" on them. Dr. Wymore also addressed this, and said that they LOOKED like fungal hyphae, so he consulted with several mycologists who agreed that they were similar to hyphae, but nothing they had ever seen before.

SS

[Jo]

Hi Daveapple,

Good snaps. I'm pretty sure this 'dandruff' shot is two, dried out, unwrapped larvae casings:

4shared.com - photo sharing - download image dandruff2.bmp

Jo

[Kritters]

Originally Posted by Jo

Hi Daveapple,

Good snaps. I'm pretty sure this 'dandruff' shot is two, dried out, unwrapped larvae casings:

4shared.com - photo sharing - download image dandruff2.bmp

Jo

Hey Joey!!!



Do you remember by any chance the pics I put out here that looked like a gray version of that...and looked like it was cellulose? I'll try to find it here cuz I lost my pics when my puter deep-sixed.

Kritzoid

[Kritters]

here it is....I think you had seen it, Jo.

[Kritters]

And I'd sure like to know what this little gem was:


You can see the tubes underneath...

[Kritters]

Here's another but looks like it's the same...