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Old June 26th, 2009, 07:47 PM
fracty is grief stricken - and FURIOUS with the doctors who said this illness is imagined!
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Hi everyone,
I have been reading this board for a while (without registering) and I am so grateful for the good advice here.

I have been reading and studying as much as I can to try to deal with this thing, but I have an urgent question.

Lately I can see big clumps of blue vein or worms or something bulging around in my hands, feet, limbs, and face. They are so big and painful. I am taking Vermox and Ciproflaxacin. I just feel I need to urgently add something quickly. I have been using all my might to try to keep things from progressing. I have DE coming in the mail. But I just feel like those clumps are going to go into my heart or something. I already feel like they are hard core in my back and knees.

I have been trying as many things as I can and am also taking the Cell Food. Any additional advice about the large worms I can see swimming under my skin at night. They feel like they are about to burst out. I have to keep moving or rubbing my hand, feet etc to stop them. (I did try squishing them, but either it is enlarged veins or I am just not strong enough)

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Old June 26th, 2009, 08:07 PM
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Fracty -

I think you should get a second opinion about what you are perceiving. I seldom recommend doctors for this condition, but I would hate to have you do something to yourself, thinking you were looking at one thing and it really wasn't. If you are looking at enlarged veins, a doctor should have a comment about that since it doesn't sound normal.

Without actually seeing what you are seeing, it would be hard for anyone to advise you. I just have this image of you squashing a vein to the point that you rupture a blood vessel!!

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Old June 26th, 2009, 08:22 PM
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Vermox and Ciproflaxacin.
Hi Fracty,
Welcome to the Forum.
Do the Meds have any side effects listed in the packing.
I don't think you should be taking them anyway.
The best way to go is Natural .
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Old June 27th, 2009, 12:05 AM
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Hi Fracty,
I have had enlarged blue veins for some time now with this diease. I first noticed them in my breasts. I now have them also in my hands and lower arms.

S M

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Old June 27th, 2009, 04:29 AM
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Hi everyone,
I have been reading this board for a while (without registering) and I am so grateful for the good advice here.

I have been reading and studying as much as I can to try to deal with this thing, but I have an urgent question.

Lately I can see big clumps of blue vein or worms or something bulging around in my hands, feet, limbs, and face. They are so big and painful. I am taking Vermox and Ciproflaxacin. I just feel I need to urgently add something quickly. I have been using all my might to try to keep things from progressing. I have DE coming in the mail. But I just feel like those clumps are going to go into my heart or something. I already feel like they are hard core in my back and knees.

I have been trying as many things as I can and am also taking the Cell Food. Any additional advice about the large worms I can see swimming under my skin at night. They feel like they are about to burst out. I have to keep moving or rubbing my hand, feet etc to stop them. (I did try squishing them, but either it is enlarged veins or I am just not strong enough)

Thanks!
Fracty
I'm not sure exactly what you're seeing. Could be nematodes, but it could be your own veins too. Without knowing more, it is hard to say.

If it is nematodes, and actually, even if it isn't, I think garlic with extra allicin is doing well for me.

It's something that is good for your body no matter what ails it.

Lots and lots of garlic.

Can you give more specifics about what these look like?

sar
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Old June 27th, 2009, 04:15 PM
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THANK YOU everyone for the advice!!!!

SS,
Yes, I am not going to try the squishing anymore. I had just seen a thread about it at this site and I TRIED to do it, but even if it would have worked I think I was too scared.

Carla,
I will recheck the side-effects of the meds. I am also doing holistic things. Eventually I will stop the Rx meds, but for now they are really helping - especially the Cipro.

Claudia,
Hmmmmm.... so we might be having the same symptom. But I am leaning toward mine being actually nematodes or fibers/bacteria that move and swell. Very weird.

Sar,
If it is a worm it is definitely a nematode. I have been catching them non-stop all over me and on everything. Plus I have all types of different versions that come out from inside. I was lucky (?) enough to get a microscope very early on and was able to observe some pretty crazy things going on. I am trying to get a page together with photos and symptoms so once I have that going maybe that will help.
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Old June 27th, 2009, 10:48 PM
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This states that there are side effects related to the concerns you are seeing/feeling:

CIPROFLOXACIN - ORAL (Cipro) side effects, medical uses, and drug interactions.

I would contact your Dr, but remember everytime you get on and off an antibiotic w/o killing the bacteria you are allowing the bacteria to become stronger and more aggressive in your system, the body doesn't become immune to natural forms of antibacterial/fungal treatments and the side effects are usually positive and usually not severe unless allergic reactions.

I learned the hard way....

Good luck,
Meg
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