Morgellons Lesion Care

[ladycolorado]

As I stated in another post I have been busy trying to get a lesion to heal.

It started out 6 inches long on my right forearm and one inch wide. I have tried numerous things on it. DMSO, GSE, MMS, iodine, palmolive oxy, bactine antiseptic.

Recently I tried SSD cream which I have used to heal lesions before. The hard crust is dissolved and it is now two smaller lesion areas however I have one problem: what I call "gooseflesh". Although no hard crust no longer inflamed it has white sharp things in it makes it look like gooseflesh.

Any suggestions? It has been awhile since I have had to fight a lesion like this and never one this big. It is getting smaller but hope not at a standstill with it.

(LC)

[browncircles]

i use dettol.

what is SSD?

[Sadsack]

LC -
I had hundreds of lesions in summer/fall of 2007 and healed them using the Neoteric Cream (you can buy it in the diabetic section at Walgreens, or google them and order it sent to you).
You don't just apply it, but rub it in. When you do, be prepared for a nightmare of things to come pouring out. Better out than it, right? When you "get to the bottom" then a little blood will come out. The stuff that's in them holds the blood back.
One thing, though - I WAY over-used the stuff, maybe a thousand tubes of it in 6 months. I rubbed it in EVERYWHERE because it drew out nightmares from "normal" skin as well. I kept using it until the crap finally stopped coming.
What I realized after all that was that one of the ingredients - dimethicone - is something we should not use. So I suggest you just use one tube, right on and around the lesion. You can sprinkle a few drops of iodine into a glob on your hand, another time some MSM powder, another time tea tree oil, another time neem oil.
I guarantee the lesion will be gone in a short period of time.
SS

[tcmgpt13]

Hi all,

SS's sucessful use of a dimethicone cream for her lesions fits in with another product I found very effective for the morgs in the scalp. I used a human flea shampoo which had dimethicone in it which was quite effective at smothering the morgs. Unfortunately the brand I used is no longer made in the US:

fels-naptha soap trial for topical and environment (permalink 12 in this thread)

Also this yet older thread mentions this product with further discussion of the flea combs I used. There is also a link for a UK site which sells a dimethicone flea shampoo:

Dimethicone/scalp morgies (permalink 1 in this thread)

BTW, I still do not have scalp problems these days. I believe the early treatment of morgs with this shampoo plus the use of the flea combs mentioned in the second link kept the morgs from multiplying any further in my head. I believe, as many have mentioned when using rife machines, the morgs also did not like the vibration of the electric flea comb I used. I believe this applies to any vibration which is applied to areas in which it thrives. It seems to push it out. As SS mentions, I only used the dimethicone shampoo for a bit. At the time I also did not realize this ingredient was not recommended for use on the skin, but as with anything perhaps it was better than having a major morg outbreak. I only had one bottle of the Rid Alternative Shampoo which has since been removed from the US market by Bayer. I found another shampoo in Walmart some months ago which was sold as a flea shampoo for humans which also had dimethicone. Her is the link for that:

LiceMD® - How LiceMD® works

best tcm

[Baraka Obam#2]

Hydrogen peroxide35%, GSE, DMSO, MSM Thes items are mainly used for KILLING this ugly invader, not healing over skin. The DMSO will speed healing if applied to a small spot, a couple of times covered with aloe. These things are stuff used in killing the monster. I use them, they are not a 1 day, new 16 year old body treatment. These items are serious stuff for the strong willed skin lesion KILLER, it is NOT a quick fix, it took me almost 4 years of treatment to beat this back, the people that know think I look fine!! There is alot more to do, I do not care thats life, if I develope , brain, pancreous or colon cancer I will be quite upset, to say the least. If you need to look good for a time there are many things that will help you, one that works VERY quickly is Desitin 40% zinc oxide in the diaper section of any store, if you can't read the back have someone read it to you, if you can read and have no glasses the reading glasses are not far from the diaper section 40% is the number, some of the stuff is like 12 % or so. Take the Desitin 40% zinc oxide and put a huge wad on the lesion, wrap it with plastic wrap. Leave it on for the whole day. Yup the whole day or longer. Do not wrap to tight. You can use alot of plastic wrap its cheap. When you take it off with sissors jump right into a HOT bath with the Desitin on you scrub it off and soak for a time. Need I say wraping is for arms and legs, maybe torso, that I have not done. Hope you get some relief soon LC.

[Kritters]

About scalp lesions....

First, I'm wondering if any of you who go into a crowd and see others itching and scratching and think it's because of your Morgs, have actually seen something come off your body and jump onto others, or is it an assumption?

Second, isn't it interesting that a "flea" shampoo works on the scalp (and probably would if people bathed in it all over the body) since Jo is working on the 'fly' end of this mystery.

I've mentioned this before about two friends of mine who are nurse practitioners (which in most cases know more than doctors...but still have the pretty much same mentality toward this). They BOTH have scalp 'lesions' and one went to a Derm who told her it was 'stress'. That just blows my steam engines when I hear that. Same as...all in your head, kinda. So she want to another and I forget what lame thing she gave her, but she is still attacking those 'healed now' scalp lesions. Then I saw this one the other night, and asked how the other one was doing with her lesions, and she replied, "horribly. Now, HER'S is NERVES".....unbelievable, isn't it? This one's couldn't have been nerves, but because the other one has them and is going through a rough time with her spouse these days...well....THAT means her lesions ARE from nerves.

My take is that the nerves may make someone pick at themselves, but that doesn't explain why they are there in the first place.

EXCEPT on a deeper level of scrutiny......stress causes acid and acid will bring out the lesions (along with other factors) but the lesions aren't magical symptoms of stress....they are physiological manifestations of actual organisms coming out of the body.

She did do a biopsy or culture I think, so I'll remember to ask what they came up with.

Kritters

[tcmgpt13]

The only time I ever had anything jump off my scalp was at the beginning of my illness. Then I had something which seemed to have wings jump off and fly away. It was not that small, about the size of a fly but it flew off, never to be seen again. There was also a worm once which looked like a piece of spaghetti, about three inches long. As mentioned in earlier posts, all my symptoms of parasites were macro in size so I may not be typical as far as what I saw. It rather terrified me at the time too. Fortunately the morgs seem to have downsized over time, though the ones which remain are still visible to me. Anyway, I have never noticed that anyone itched more just by sitting near me, at home or away, not even when the morgs first started and my symptoms were at their very worst.

Also I do not think that just any flea shampoo will work. I had read that many people were not seeing any results on their morgs scalp symptoms by using the flea shampoos which contain pymethrin. In fact using they reported that using such shampoos seemed to make their symptoms worse. The flea shampoo with dimethicone appears to smother the organism (at that time mine were gray in color and were shaped like commas--I also saw grey green fuzzles).

In addition to parasites in the scalp there is also the possibility that a viral infection may be causing scalp lesions. I have noticed that my scalp itchiness (apart from the morgellons I treated early on) is getting much better over time with the use of my antiviral medication. Although herpes viral scalp lesions are supposed to be an unusual infection, considering how nearly all illnesses from the past seem to have become supersized in modern man, perhaps it should be at least a consideration for testing. I did not have lesions in the scalp, but did notice some small raised and crusted areas which bled and were sensitive. All those crawling scalp sensations I have had for years seem to be nearly gone.

Dermatitis herpetiformis is also a possibility with scalp lesions (this being gluten sensitivity which shows up on the skin). It is probably not a bad idea to be tested for gluten sensitivity. I think sometimes if I had not already been on a gluten free diet that my already severe symptoms might have been much worse.

[Jo]

That's interesting TC about the dimethicone. Its being pushed alot over here to treat head lice - like you say it has smothering effects. I will try it and report back.

Also, another product I was gonna try, makes organisms glow in the dark - produced to help locate and remove head lice. I think it could help prove that my tiny midge are sensing another host and flying on them.

Kritty, its not an assumption for me that my affliction makes others itch - I've spent 8 years putting myself in experimental situations - I have no doubts about this. I found the tinyest pair of wings in a lesion today (yes I've started getting lesions, after many years of not having dem).

If I gently squeeze a lesion, I can feel the larvae holding on somehow (cuz it hurts). If I occude the lesion with vaseline or bees wax for a day or three, the larvae start coming to the surface and let go of their hold.

So then I squeeze very very carefully and they come out whole. If I break the larvae before its out it causes the lesion to swell. Usually there's more than one larvae in a lesion I find. The others are smaller and I put talc on the lesion to draw them out and to soak up the toxins they release.

If some other folks with morgellons have fly larvae, then the species would dictate where they hide, whether they look for other hosts or not and whether they bite - like my midge seem to do.

LC - you mentioned clove oil as helping your scalp along with peppermint. Have you ever tried clove in your skin moisturiser? I've found clove oil helpful, so thanks for that info - but I forgot to try on my skin and have run out now.

Jo xxx

[Seasprite]

for scalp lesions my most successful treatment has been
Jaeson DANDRUFF Shampoo with MSM, apple cider vinegar etc.

[Kritters]

Sprite,

Since 99.999% of dandruff is actually fungus, and since I've used Selsun Blue and Nizoral to eliminate mine, that makes sense. I guess not all our scalp lesions are caused by fugus whether alone or with the critters or one and the same or some other funky combo, but at least it helps some people.

Hey Joey!...I guess I didn't write that very well....I didn't mean to imply it's an assumption. I wasn't sure if some people have the flies and some people have the electrostatic fibers that are 'magnetically' jumping onto others. What I want to know, is if you have actually seen the flies jump from yourself onto others. Thaaaaas all, babycakes. I'm wondering about springtails (do they jump? (spring)I know your's are flies, but I'm thinking broader inclusive possibities here). I can't disect the fly I swat-murdered because I don't have a scalple, but I'm going to soak it in oil to see if it separates and look again under the scope.

xoxoxo
The Krittstermeister