Treatment Steps '08

[carla]

Hi Everyone, I think it is time to update the Treatment Steps.
There are lots of new members asking what they can do to get relief so we need to have all the information in one place.Most of the original steps are too harsh and there are cheaper alternatives now.
Also what we need to do with our homes to reduce the fibers. Does anyone agree that carpets have to go and be replaced with wooden flooring?
HELP Someone tell me what to list.
carla xx

[Robin]

carla thats def a fact my rugs are nasty i get on my hands and knees wth a scrubbrush at least once a week.i rent so i can't tear up all of them .that drives me crazy.also a friend of mine lent me her steam cleaner that thing is excellent it even feels so much cleaner i'm trying to do all of my rooms before i have to return it!in doing my bathroom i coldn't believe how much there my fav cleaning was everywhere it seems to be invisible to the naked eye it was rolling down the walls disgusting!personally i like pine-sol,bleach,any prod i can find wth oxy and comet.i also like to use papertowels or whatever you call themlove robin

[carla]

Thanks for the confirmation Robin. I got rid of my curtains and replaced with wooden blinds. A leather sofa (settee,couch,) what ever strange word you guys call it.
No rugs. No cushions. No throws.
A steam cleaner is well worth investing in. If not a really hot steam iron.
Come on Guys . Who is going to help me or better still do it for me because I'm fogged.
At this rate it will be Treatment Steps'09
carla xxxxxx

[Jo]

Hi Carls,

Treatment steps 08. Its a great idea - count me in. I've got some kind of list in google docs...I'll find and post it.

How do we decide on the most effective ones?

I was thinking it would be great for folks to be able to rate their effectiveness.

Some treatments work better for some more than others, at different stages and also for specific problems, eg lesions. So maybe it would be better to move away from instructions but rather list things for people to rotate and try.

I think we should definitely ditch all natural fibre furnishings where possible.

Thanks Carla for starting this thread

Jo xxx

[carla]

Thanks Jo.
Get it posted if you don't mind . We can build on it.
First we need a list of products that most people agree works.
I will kick it off with Hydro peroxide,salt,White vinegar and Bicarb soda and Borax.
carla xxxx

[Jo]

Here's the internal treatments ROUGH list (I've also got a list of what they are good for)

Activated Charcoal
Aloa Vera juice
Alpha lipoic acid
Artemisinin
Ascorbic acid (Vitamin C)
Astaxantin
Bicarbonate of soda
Bifidobacterium lactis
Cayenne pepper
Calcium
Coconut oil
Coenzyme 10
Coffee colonic
Colloidal Silver, 10ppm
Cumander
Diatomous Earth
DMSA
EDTA
Flaxseed oil (linseed oil)
Garlic
Ginger root
Ginkgo Biloba
Glutathione
Grapefruit seed extract
Green Tea
Humaworm
Lactobacillus acidophilus
Licorice Extract
Lysine
Magnesium
Milk Thistle
MMS
Mustard
Myrrh
N-Acetyl Cysteine
Neem Leaf
Niacin (vitamin B3)
Okra
Omega oils 3, 6 & 9
Olive leaf extract
Opaline Dry Oxy
Oregano oil
Ozone oils
Pau d'arco tea
Riboflavin (Vit B2)
Saccharomyces boulardii
Samento
Sauerkraut
Selegiline
Selenium
Teatree oil (inhalation)
Thiamin (Vit B1)
Turmeric
Vitamin B6
Vitamin B12
Vitamin D
Vitamin E
Zinc

I'll find the external ones tomorrow....

xxxx

[Tracy]

I am just starting out and would love a list of the best treatment steps. One thing that I have tried that helps me with my clothes is to use the Eco Vie mix as a spritzer when I iron my clothes. Both my washer and dryer are contaminated, so no matter what I do, my clothes come out a mess. They are rough and wrinkled. When I spritzed them as I iron, they become soft and comfortable to wear. For whites, I have used vinegar. (It doesn't smell after a few minutes.)

[Jo]

Here's the external treatment ROUGH list:

Betadine (iodine)
Bicarbonate of soda
Boots No.7 beauty serum
Coconut oil
Collidal silver
Dettol
DSP
Enzyme cleaners (Eco-vie, Bug Arrest etc)
Far infra-red pad/sauna
Foot pads (Bamboo vinegar)
Grapefruit seed extract
Gycerine & hydrogen peroxide ear drops (eg Otex)
Hibiscrub (Hibiclens)
Hydrogen peroxide
Infusium 23 hair conditioner
Johnson's Baby shampoo
Lactic cream
Menthol crystals
Miracle Aloe Foot Cream
Mustard/yogurt/milk/ginger mix
Neem
Nizoral
Otex Ear drops
Salt (epsom, sea, table, dishwasher)
Selsun Blue
Sulphur soap
Talc powder
White vinegar


Essential oils
Citronella
Clove oil
Ecalyptus
Frankencense oil
Geranium oil
Lavender oil
Lemon oil
Myrrh oil
Orange oil
Peppermint oil
Pine oil
Teatree oil

[Jo]

Hi Tracy,

That's a good one about the ironing. I guess somethings like Eco-vie will overlap with skin/hair treatment, environment and laundry.

Maybe we should have a number of lists:

External treatments - including clensing, moisturizing, lesion treatments, hair, nails and eyes.

Internal treatments

Diet and nutrition

Environment - home furnishings, surfaces, garden, car

Laundry

Pet treatments


Do we leave out medical treatments?

What do you thinks Carls, anyone else?

Jo xxx

ps - Tracy, I'd like to try and copy what you've observed with fibres coming out of tape edges...great observation ;o)

[pat]

DON'T forget the Bug Arrest.I think what would be a good idea is to start a page of 'what to expect symptoms.'I found it very confusing ro read about people digging stuff out and talking of different types of lesions as if we all had the same.And we don't.In the beginning I didn't have any lesions but had these tadpole things hanging off me toes,(just corrected a typo-i put tadpole thongs) BUT no lesions so didnt understand what folk were saying.A page detailing what people MAY get ,describing it and ways to treat it would take much of the confusion away for newbies in other words how they could recognise things if they break out.Hope this makes sense to you -get to it u pc experts lol my roast beef n 3 veg are calling!