Active Leptospermum Honey/Seaweed Bandages and Cream

[tcmgpt13]

I have found several articles which discuss wound dressings made with Active Leptospermum Honey and seaweed (right now very expensive). These wound dressings are being used in hospitals to dress surgical wounds, some of which involve MRSA staph infections. Since lesions associated with morgellons are often difficult to heal (and one member has reported that a culture showed a regular staph infection in one lesion) I wonder if the less expensive cream, also being made to dress wounds, may prove useful at healing lesions. Especially interesting to me is the fact that these dressings balance moisture in the wound, which may be an advantage against parasites who thrive under excessively moist conditions. Currently these dressings are on the market in UK, Australia and New Zealand and are quite expensive, even though recently there has been some sort of price cut. Plans are underway in the US to release this bandage into pharmacies in a smaller strip form as well as in dressing sizes. In addition the honey based cream is more reasonably priced and may be used with regular, less expensive dressings and bandages.

Here's several articles about these bandages:

http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/medih...ics-11125.html

This next page says that Active Leptospermum Honeys: "Breakdown biofilms and inhibit biofilm formation." There is a Pubmed link at the bottom of this page.

http://dermasciencesinc.com/showpage...&pid=74&show=p

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22398921/

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...2/ai_n21054763

Although these dressings are being sold for use on venous ulcers here is a small study which may show that this is not a good way to use these bandages and may even prove harmful (though it was a small study and lasted only 12 weeks, so it may not have been large enough or long enough for a definitive study):

http://www.medpagetoday.com/PrimaryC...dicine/tb/7922

UK Comvita site (wound cream is called Manuakacare 18+, dressings are Comvita Apinate Dressings):

http://www.comvita.co.uk/ourproducts.html

Another UK site:

http://www.worldofnz.co.uk/index.asp...CT&productid=5

Same site for the wound dressings:

http://www.worldofnz.co.uk/apinate-m...ssing-28-p.asp

US site for Manuka honey products, including a manuka cream (Wound Care 18+) for wounds:

http://www.manukahoneyusa.com/products.htm

US source for medihoney dressings (and yes, very expensive, in fact I believe the UK price is less than the US price for these dressing):

http://shopforwoundcare.com/medihone...FQcigQod3Dx3Mw

[Kritters]

Hey TCM!

I'm curious. Has anyone actually just put organic honey on a lesion by itself?

I just received a gift on my face the other day after not having had one for quite some time.

I think I'll try it and see.

xoxo
Kritts

[megluth72]

I used it back in the beginning when I first started getting lesions - thinking it was acne. It burned quite a bit for me and was a sticky mess. I would look like Chubacca by the time I washed it off from all the hair sticking to me. Anyways, I didn't see anything significant with using it, but again, that was back in the beginning when the lesions didn't have a mind of their own. Haven't tried the honey since because of the pain factor. It all hurts bad enough on it's own. Might be worth trying and dealing with the burning if someone has had good results with it.

[Kritters]

Meg,
Are you saying that honey hurt, honey?
I can't imagine that. I have always found it so soothing.
Wow, I'm surprised.
I know I've posted this before (oh no, Kritts....not again) but the book,
"Honey, Mud, Maggots and other Medical Marvels" is a must read.
xo
Kritts

[megluth72]

Yep, it stung. I don't know why and I didn't expect it (at least the first time). Could just be my skin. I'm pretty sensitive.

[Kritters]

y'know Meg,

That book states that not all honey is the same. some has more hydrogen peroxide than others. that may be why you felt the sting...I don't know....but if so, it's a good little sting.

Kritts

[tcmgpt13]

There is some mention of pain from using these particular honey/seaweed bandages in the link I posted about vascular ulcers. A small study was done on these types of ulcers and this study found these dressing did not work for that condition. It caused pain and worsening of the symptoms which is why I put that link on there, as I think if deciding to try a protocol having as much information as possible is important. It is also possible to have an allergy to this type of honey or any other honey, which might also cause itching or pain. And I think that this particular honey is more potent against germs than just ordinary organic honey which is why a special manuka honey is used to make these bandages and the cream.

[megluth72]

Makes sense. I used good ol' standard honey. Could explain it all. So where to you get the other varities of honey?

[Kritters]

TC...

OH MY GOD!!! TC.... it would be great if I would look up names of things before posting. Al is probably right about my being an idiot.

Guess what? I have a Crepe Myrtle tree RIGHT OUTSIDE MY WINDOW!

I didn't realize that honey from trees existed. I thought it was only maple syrup! (which is good too ;-) OH WAIT. is that from the flower? duh uhhh.

Well, you know I'm so impressed with what medicinal properties come from trees. It just gets better and better.

Thanks for the info. sorry I didn't read it through and check out the names before opening my grande bouche.

xoxo
Kritts

[tcmgpt13]

Hi meg,

I posted the US site above, where one may buy the special honey to eat and help heal the body internally or apply to wounds (assuming one does not want to buy the special cream, though it might be a bit less messy than the honey). Anyway, here is another page from that site which describes the different strengths of the special medicinal type honey and how to choose the most effective strength for one's needs. BTW there are some fairly graphic pictures of wounds on this page so stay to the top half of the page if these types of pictures upset you, as there are some fairly deep and ugly wounds shown in large pictures starting about half way down, where customer testimonials start:

http://www.manukahoneyusa.com/manuka...d-dressing.htm

There is a link from this page (left column at the top of the page) to a research page with additional links to research papers on the use of honey. Rather than posting all these links or putting up numerous reports from this or other sites, I thought to save space on the forum by posting just a few links to various sites. I do feel that other sites would rather have internet users go to their sites to view their material which quite often is copyrighted.

There are other products sold on this same site so I will repost my original link to the site once again as this page does list most of the different products this site sells, including the honeys and the special honey cream for wounds:

http://www.manukahoneyusa.com/products.htm

Whether this special honey will help morgellons lesions I do not know, but I did find the claim that it will help breakdown biofilms as well as inhibit them (which is listed as a benefit of use on another site) to be of interest, as the lesions do seem to have a sticky film.