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Old February 8th, 2008, 06:28 PM
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Hi! Ya'll  I'll be taking a new med, any of you folks know much about Itraconzole and what I might exspect?  Sincerely: Bobbyjoe sorry folks,the brand name is Sporanox-antifungle, I just don't know what to exspect. thanks: Bobbyjoe
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Old February 8th, 2008, 07:07 PM
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Hi Bobbyjoe,
                 I havent got a clue just wanted to say hello

I'm sure everyone who knows will reply soon
xx                                                              Hi carla! why-----how have ya been? Bobbyjoe: XX back on ya
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Old February 8th, 2008, 08:50 PM
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Hi, I think the 'azole' group of medications is used against mycotoxins; ie fungal spores. Good luck.  I have been reading a little on the role of mycotoxins in the literature, there is ongoing issues in the swine industry with mycotoxicity.  The problem is that once into the foodchain they are indestructible through cooking, freezing , digestion etc. They build up into toxic quantities in the food chain.  The recent pet food scare was, in part, due to mycotoxins. Look at fusaric acid, which, as I understand is an active component of fusarium wilt in plants. Certian fusarium species have been cultivated to enhance 'agri-business', but  by doing so, using 'biological controls', putting uncertianty into the ecological balance.
There are protocols which reduce myco-toxicity. Bentonite clay, bakers yeast and charcoal tablets.
Myco-toxins I think are the 'building blocks' of mycoplasma, which is indicated as the underlying cause of many diseases. So, a regime of bentonite clay, or perhaps diatomeacous earth to bind to the myco-toxins, yeast to build an overwhelming biotic change to the system, charcoal to adsorb any detritus from the dis-assembly of the myco-toxins.
Should minimize, or eliminate 'herxing'.
There is research to suggest the fibre is a poly saccharide chain, of sugars, caused by the attendant opportunistic sybioses which can occur when fusaric acid is present, such as agrobacterium, staph, and others.
From memory fusaric acid blocks a dopamine enzyme and is being studied as an anti cancer drug, but I am  scetchy on detail here.
So, no parasites, just long chains of poly saccharides, an overload of myco-toxicity.
There is also evidence that dettol will soon eliminate lesions.  lots to take in, thank you Al: Bobbyjoe
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Speaking of pets...has anyone seen the scare of the dying dogs with an unknown disease?

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Old February 9th, 2008, 09:07 AM
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Hi Al, Thanks, great post.

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There is research to suggest the fibre is a poly saccharide chain, of sugars, caused by the attendant opportunistic sybioses which can occur when fusaric acid is present, such as agrobacterium, staph, and others.
I wonder if all of the fibres are made of sugars? ....transparent, white, blue, black, brown, long, short....just expressed in different ways depending on the sybiosis with the fusaric.

Bubba talked about the 'mature fiber stage'. In my experience, the fibres came later...after years of mild morgellon type symptoms.


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Old February 9th, 2008, 10:13 AM
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Hi Al, Thanks, great post.

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There is research to suggest the fibre is a poly saccharide chain, of sugars, caused by the attendant opportunistic sybioses which can occur when fusaric acid is present, such as agrobacterium, staph, and others.

I wonder if all of the fibres are made of sugars? ....transparent, white, blue, black, brown, long, short....just expressed in different ways depending on the sybiosis with the fusaric.

Bubba talked about the 'mature fiber stage'. In my experience, the fibres came later...after years of mild morgellon type symptoms.


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Well Joey, let's give it a test, shall we? How would you like your tea...
with a long or short, transparent, black, blue, red? Straight up or curly?
(tee hee)  You know that would be interesting if they were, in fact composed of sugars. I've also often wondered why candida, etc. feed off of sugar. This may have some connection...or not 

Interesting information, Al....are you a microbiologist or some sort of scientist or just plain smart? 

Kritters Hi Kritters! ur to funny-Joey: I'll take mine str. up thank you.
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Old February 9th, 2008, 10:23 AM
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No sugar, fanks Krittso! I'm sweet enough PLUS these sugar monsters arent my friends right now, so they aint going in my tea or the Queens for that matter - must write her a letter about this, AGAIN!

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yeast to build an overwhelming biotic change to the system
Please could you explain the above a bit more Al, as a part of treatment?

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Hi Bobbyjoe,

Are you taking these meds under a doctors supervision. If not just make sure you do get regular blood tests antifungals can be quite taxing on the liver, and its just best to keep an eye on your liver function.

I have heard quite a lot of positive results from morgies in relation to itraconazole, all the best.

Jason        Jason: thank you very much. Bobbyjoe PS and yes I am, I'll keep the liver test in mind thanks again.
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Old February 9th, 2008, 06:37 PM
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Hi guys, I wish I knew more, but as a primer lookup 'seeds of deception' which is a book on gmo's.
I am enclosing a link I just found;
http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic890.htm
I will do some more reading and thinking during the day.
Look up 'Agent green'.
It all will boil down to physics/chemistry and logic.
http://www.answers.com/topic/mycotoxin?cat=health
http://www.mycotoxin-prevention.com/PressRelease.htm
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Old February 9th, 2008, 07:04 PM
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Hi guys, I wish I knew more, but as a primer lookup 'seeds of deception' which is a book on gmo's.
I am enclosing a link I just found;
http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic890.htm
I will do some more reading and thinking during the day.
Look up 'Agent green'.
It all will boil down to physics/chemistry and logic.
http://www.answers.com/topic/mycotoxin?cat=health
http://www.mycotoxin-prevention.com/PressRelease.htm
Jo, this last link describes the metabolic pathways pathogenic mycotoxins follow, the yeast derivative, in this case, mannose, causes the mycotoxin to adhere to the mannose, it cannot undergo the metabolic change required to enter the host as a pathogen and is excreted.
http://www.ams.usda.gov/nop/National...erivatives.pdf
I will try to understand this a bit more, its like all things, unfamiliar and daunting at first, but the understanding will come.
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