ut therapy

[ladycolorado]

to continue a thread, wait on mrf okay, if safe. shutoff and cut off due to a non medical moderators prissiness.

[Franky]

Do you really think mrf will ok you drinking your urine?

[baronster]

For those of you who PM me thank you....I have moved this topic to morgellons sanctum, the administrator has put her disclaimer, but says we are FREE to discuss this topic and keep track of progress.

I used same title and user name.

cheers everybody and good luck.

[Franky]

baronster thank you for moving it there, I will NOT have my members thinking of drinking their Piss, plain and simple! And for the record, you had your say here.

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[GoBotRocker]

Franky, are you gonna start burning books too?!!!

Dont ask other to live their lives, according to your fears.

This is supression.

My brothers in the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marine Corps did not fight and die so you could act like a Nazi.

Get in the game or go home.

Scott

[tcmgpt13]

Originally Posted by GoBotRocker

Franky, are you gonna start burning books too?!!!

Dont ask other to live their lives, according to your fears.

This is supression.

My brothers in the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marine Corps did not fight and die so you could act like a Nazi.

Get in the game or go home.

Scott

If you feel there is no support for the theories you have on this forum perhaps you need to erect your own site.

Rules of debate clearly state that name calling is not a way to support a reasoned position. Franky has been more than generous to people on this forum, even erecting another site where members can go to get away from Morgellons discussions. I feel we should be thanking Franky for helping us to have what used to be a safe place to have a civil discussion about ideas, not smearing him in public for stopping someone else's disrespectful behavior towards him, one of the moderators here, and as well as other members of this forum.

best,

tcm

[carla]

TCM is so right.Franky is a very tolerant administrator.
He has not deleted any of the UT post. He let everyone have their say and left the information for everyone to see.
I think theres enough evidence to tell us its unsafe.How does being a nazi compare to protecting vunerable ill people from doing something dangerous ?
carla

[Kritters]

I'd like to add something here. While I'm sure LC had nothing but good intentions, and she has contributed so much good information and links, no one knows for sure if this UT does or does not work or that it is a safe thing to do. People come to this forum for help and guidance/support. I could very well bring up a remedy of drinking slug juice and munching on crickets, and try it on myself, but the very nature of this forum is not to come up with possible remedies for people to try, especially when potentially harmful. There are so many people who are just reading as "guests" here who may catch only one paragraph, which may suggest the UT treatment and I think we have to be very responsible in what we put out here.

We have to stop taking everything so personally here and remember we are all in this together. This is Franky's forum, and Franky's rules. Plain and simple. I imagine the purpose of the moderators here is to nip things like this in the bud. If ignored, then Franky has to step in and do whatever is necessary.

This is all a waste of valuable time so let's move on and get well.

Kritters

[2manyfibers]

I’m quite certain that our brothers in the armed forces were NOT fighting specifically so that people could drink their own piss or read about it. Our soldiers have sacrificed, fought and died for our FREEDOM! Sadly this includes the freedom for people to not think things through very well. The UT thread was quite lengthy which means that people were allowed to have their say regardless of anything else and Franky generously provided a place for the discussion to take place and allowed it to occur and still be available for viewing. This means that Franky (or anyone else) certainly is no speech NAZI by any stretch of the imagination – I’m pretty sure that Franky doesn’t have a group of “piss police” (maybe the PP instead of the SS) lined up waiting to go knock down anyone’s door and give them a beating as the term NAZI would imply ). Boy, I hopethat the discussions don't ever get to the point of involving "brown shirts"!

It’s a very thoughtless argument to call someone names for simply exercising their own right to free speech and trying to compare them to actual people that truly committed unspeakable human atrocities – since Franky owns the forum and pays for it, ultimately this forum is Franky exercising his own right to free speech and graciously allowing us to join him and I think he has been very lenient with what is said on the forum. No one is suppressing anyone’s rights or abilities to free speech – people are still free to drink piss or talk about drinking piss pretty much anywhere they want here in the US – just not on Franky’s privately owned forum that is intended to help and support people suffering from Morgellons.

It seems pretty obvious to me that there are better ways to get the tiny amount of nutrients that could be gotten from “recycling” your own urine, and the body is already producing any antibodies or hormones in urine or they wouldn’t be in urine to begin with. To put it simply, there is more risk for harm than any potential benefit to come from drinking urine. We should all have great appreciation for the opportunity Franky has provided us with to assemble here on his forum and discuss ways to help and support each other – it’s not like he had to do this and he certainly did not have to allow anyone else to say anything at all if he didn’t want to. So in closing, I’ll express a sentiment that I’m sure most people on the board can support – THANK YOU FRANKY for your generosity in providing this forum and for allowing all of us to talk freely!