Getting earache from LC

[pat]

Firstl let me say before i forget that i have read of someone who has had a fantastic result using Alfalfa tablets in the bath.Morgs were swimming for their lives.
LC says I have to post what has worked for me.Well the thing that keeps me going through this is pure unadulterated ANGER.Anger that there is probably some academic idiot in a lab somewhere who let this alien thing loose on unsuspecting people.An alien that took my animals away,an alien who came into my house uninvited and made everything dirty and who turned a peaceful garden into a war zone.And if this comes to light I'd like to meet him and shovel a scoop or 3 of these down his throat.
On the practical side,I have found that borax and salt baths work very well.I get out of bath gazing longingly at my spa sanctuary stuff on the side..oh well!Then i spray my face and ears with ecovie.I look at the Boots perfect beauty face cream thats been proved to make a difference to ageing and think its too late now,i look 90 since this thing took over.I spray house with vinegar/salt mixes,lemon and i am down to 5 million morgs from 10million.I use borax/salt/vinegar in wash machine which is working pretty well.In fact most of bubbas steps really,and of course the suggestions from LC have worked well.Although i have found the essential oils haven't discouraged them too well--and i have used these oils for years,but they don't work well on the morgs in my experience.I bought a Himalayan pink salt lamp and have really noticed a difference-no fug in the room from jims ciggies and when i shine the blacklight on it its full of blue fibre.Jims uptake in ciggies has increased since his goolies were bitten but i can't blame him poor soul.
I also use the poultry shield ammonia based stuff in a spray in house and chicks hut.I do believe the secret is to keep alternating everything.Puts then on the back foot.The garden is another matter-its huge in fact I could do with US Airforce to napalm it so if anyones husband is in that line of work do give me a call......
As i have said before the thing that did wipe them out is dichiorvos which was found in fly spray.Which was banned as an organophosphate.Think about this.If the morgs stem from GM and organophosphates killed em...didn't it just make sense to ban the organophosphates.Cos Greenpeace would have been washing the GM fields with it.And that would have finished the big fat cats off.
I've a good mind to take a fast boat to China cos they won't give a rats *** about organophosphates and am sure they'll have em there and buy a ton of them.The ironic part is they banned the bl**** stuff cos it was 'dangerous to public health'and give us morgs instead.Academic idiots every last one of them.
SO Ladycolorado will this do????Please rate me out of ten.If i remember anything else i will put it on later.

[ladycolorado]

well thanks sorry if i gave you an earache . meant to SUGGEST you post not demand, lol. but a 20 on scale of 1-10. kudos to you geat job (LC).

[tcmgpt13]

Sorry Pat, just about thirty years too late to call upon ex who was a B-52 ber pilot in Vietnam, no doubt dropping napalm at least some of the time. We wives never did know as they couldn't talk about it. Well, who would want to know about that really?

[pat]

Well tcm still wouldn't mind a dose of it in the garden.
Thank you LC for the rating am glad its ok given my brain fog,which is on the increase.

[tcmgpt13]

Pat,

Found out this chemical (Dichlorvos) is used in one pig dewormer. Works agains several worms in pigs, including one I found interesting which is a stomach worm (this is something I have been wondering about: Can this parasite can stay alive in the stomach, which is not usual parasite behavior--in my own case I have continuing stomachaches if I let up on herbal dewormers). Also found in fly strips.

Okay, here is something else I find interestng about this chemical from:

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=7&gl=us

"For instance, a dichlorvos formulation known as Nuvan® is
widely used in Europe to control skin parasites in fish culture, especially in the caged cultures of
Atlantic salmon."

And guess where I caught my morgellons, probably from eating farmed grouper (just a guess about the farmed part, but I bet it is a very close guess).

The next quote is from:

http://www.taxidermy4cash.com/taxide...sekeeping.html

"A chemical that has been used widely and has since been banned under European Insecticide Regulations

Dichlorvos is an organophosphate compound (Vapona / Sheep Dip being some common names) used to control household, public health, and stored product insects. It is effective against mushroom flies, aphids, spider mites, caterpillars, thrips, and white flies in greenhouse, outdoor fruit, and vegetable crops. Dichlorvos is used to treat a variety of parasitic worm infections in dogs, livestock, and humans. Dichlorvos can be fed to livestock to control botfly larvae in the manure. It acts against insects as both a contact and a stomach poison. It has been used to make pet collars and pest strips. It is available as an aerosol and soluble concentrate to be used in the home and by taxidermists.

This is why Dichlorvos is no longer used.

Dichlorvos is highly toxic by inhalation, dermal absorption, and ingestion. Because dichlorvos is volatile, inhalation is the most common route of exposure. As with all organophosphates, dichlorvos is readily absorbed through the skin. Acute illness from dichlorvos is limited to the effects of cholinesterase inhibition. Compared to poisoning by other organophosphates, dichlorvos causes a more rapid onset of symptoms, which is often followed by a similarly rapid recovery. This occurs because dichlorvos is rapidly metabolized and eliminated from the body. Persons with reduced lung function, convulsive disorders, liver disorders, or recent exposure to cholinesterase inhibitors will be at increased risk from exposure to dichlorvos. Alcoholic beverages may enhance the toxic effects of dichlorvos. High environmental temperatures or exposure of dichlorvos to light may enhance its toxicity. Dichlorvos is mildly irritating to skin. Concentrates of dichlorvos may cause burning sensations, or actual burns."

Symptoms of acute exposure to organophosphate or cholinesterase-inhibiting compounds may include the following: numbness, tingling sensations, incoordination, headache, dizziness, tremor, nausea, abdominal cramps, sweating, blurred vision, difficulty breathing or respiratory depression, slow heartbeat. Very high doses may result in unconsciousness, incontinence, and convulsions or fatality. Some organophosphates may cause delayed symptoms beginning 1 to 4 weeks after an acute exposure that may or may not have produced immediate symptoms. In such cases, numbness, tingling, weakness, and cramping may appear in the lower limbs and progress to incoordination and paralysis. Improvement may occur over months or years, but some residual impairment may remain. This chemical was routinely used in taxidermy, by taxidermists and households as a fly killer."

So if Pat found this chemical effective against the morgs in her environment, could the paragraphs above give the researchers a clue about where to look for what type of parasite this may be?

Anyone who is able to directly contact Dr. Harvey and his researchers, please suggest this as an area to look into. I feel Pat may have stumbled onto something here.

best,

tcm

[pat]

well done tcm.Yes I reckon this parasite would stay in the stomach,thats what killed my horse.He was wormed with Equest every 13 weeks-thats fine for the usual horse worms but i don't reckon it would have touched these damned things.The only way would to have been an intensive course of worming.Also he had a small hard lump on lower leg that irritated him.I tried everything,nothing worked.Asked the vet and she was stumped but suggested frontline spray as it may be.....mites.
Nuvan Top was available here and vets and everyone else swore by it.It killed absolutely everything.Yes I'd say it was toxic and all that about resp.disease a def. yes.When i sprayed the fly killer i coughed till i thought i would lose my lungs....and brought up a mass of clear jelly substance.It was obvious they didn't like it.I still think all these substances have been banned to protect the GM crops.Otherwise Greenpeace would have been chucking bucketfuls on them.So now i see it as we are left to the mercy of superbugs and we have nothing to kill them with.I don't think the EU or anyone else give a rats bum for the human population so all bsthe thats put out 'this has been banned cos its a danger to the public' is rubbish.Its a danger to GM crops is what they really mean and the billions they want to pocket.

[tcmgpt13]

Wow, the evil there is in the world Pat. Money, the root of all evil indeed.

Anyway, I wonder what the human dewormer based on this chemical is called. That I did not find. It must be pretty potent, as I expect the pig dewormer must be too. Not something one would want to try without a doctor for sure. I just hope someone who can contact Harvey directly about this will do so now. It may get this solved a lot more quickly if they knew what the parasite was and knowing what worked against at least a portion of these parasites could give a clue as to where to look.

It is really interesting about your horse, and from what you write I would have to conclude there is a definite connection to morgellons and the stomach worms your horse had and to the fact that the Dichlorvos killed the morgs in the environment. It looks as if the fog from the spray killed some of the morg goo in your lungs (thank goodness, or think how much sicker you might be, though at the time it must have been totally frightening and probably not all to the good as far as your lungs). It staggers the mind doesn't it what governments all over have allowed to happen. Glad I do not have to be the one to explain to the good Lord about encouraging that ruination of crops and animals and people. Sounds as if an intensive course in worming for us would be necessary from what you say about what the horse would have needed to have a chance (and doubtless by then too weak to tolerate). I wonder if we could get well from that sort of dewormer before it might finish some of us off, as some are so weakened from this... So sorry about the ginger cat and the beautiful horse. I know we both mourn the loss of our animals, though I do think our dog was not suffering from morgellons.

Do you mean US corporations are infecting all of Europe with GMO foods? Last I heard only UK was going that way. Cried at the time when I read it too as I always thought, at least there will be one safe place to move which has not been polluted with GM food. Looks as if I were totally uninformed about the extent of the GMO pollution. Here I was thinking, well if I eat European cheese at least their livestock are not eating GMO food. Wrong it seems. Tell me, how did the Prince of Wales miss out on influencing parliament on this one (know he is an adocate of organic food in UK).

What a crock it all is. And we think we do not live in medieval times. I think this time reflects a lot of what was going on in the old days, when the feudal system was alive and well. Many lives today are little more than lives of serfdom, work long hours, for low pay, forfeit a lot of taxes to the government, support those who do not work with the taxes of those who do, allow the rich to get richer to formulate schemes to take away even more from the poor (and I think there is a smaller and smaller percentage of middle class folks as they figure out how to take away more money from them) and add in an illusion of "freedom." Dumb down education so the poor blighters do not even know what hit them. Oh, and make sure they are diverted by all sorts of low brow entertainment. Especially those which discourage thinking. Pretty close to the serf's life, just a glitzier package. It works, just as the feudal system worked from the apathy and/or ignorance of the majority.

Oh well, need to get this solved first, then get on to other things. Think we can all get a soapbox in Hyde Park? Well, probably that is not the same today either.

best,

tcm

[ladycolorado]

i have noticed in usa, the formery cheap and nutritious foods are sky high now. almonds, outrageos, jerky cheaper to buy gold by weight. meat cheese bread especiaaly higher quality outrageous. am i the only one to see we have inflation, OR WHAT? of course junk food the crappiest stuff, still dirt cheap. hamburger helper twinkies, anyone? (LC)

[tcmgpt13]

No thank you LC, no twinkies, I have enough stomachaches all on my very own! Think my latest batch of herbs from Raintree Nutritition and Doctor's Best is really making some inroads into this for me (well it should as one of the herbs is the herbal equivalent of plaquenil). Still it would wonderful if the parasites we are fighting could be identified so treatment could be tailored to the causative agents, instead of the shotgun approach most of us have to use currently.

best,

tcm

[pat]

Ok tcm have a look at
http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/gm

That should give you some idea on Englands green and pleasant land.

As for Prince Charles missing the GM thing he was too involved with his old mare wasn't he? Its pointless him growing his organic things when there is GM all over the bally place.
I don't know if its the US corporations thats doing it here but someone surely is and one of the main players was Lord Sainsbury who is a great supporter of GM.He gave the Labour party thousands of pounds in donations and the gm went blithely ahead.Now this old goat was the head of Sainsbury supermarket,and they started to lose customers in droves.Can you see the thinking.....'if he's into GM we're gonna end up eating it if we shop at sainsbury' So he 'stepped' down and supermarket started to recover.Personally i think he will still have his grubby mitts in it somewhere.
Its obvious to a blind man.Tony Blair was a great friend of the old goat.Blair has been selling peerages in return for donations to the labour party.Sooo hello GM.What is just as disgraceful is that here,Gm food ISN'T labelled.You have to look to make sure it says'this food does NOT contain GM'......not the way it should be e.g.'this food contains GM' so eat it and grow 2 heads,or become infertile,or become a playground for parasites etc.
I think this plague will be something like the scenario that they sprayed this monster stuff with a 'special insecticide' which transferred to ordinary crops and insects via the air and the insects mutated into something from Dean Koontz.Hence the tick link in Lyme.I may be wrong of course but then I am not an 'academic idiot'.
Then these politicians have the utter cheek to comment on so called 'corrupt dictators'around the world.WELL LOOK NO FURTHER THAN WESTMINSTER FOLKS.
As to Hyde Park soapbox forget it TCM only persons of a certain colour and religion can use it now. :P