Very good b/complicated article on Agrobacteria infections.

[EvDownJr]

http://www.scs.uiuc.edu/~phgroup/pdf...ed.%20Chem.pdf

Based on this article, please advise whether anyone has seen improvement with their own biofilm using:

SAMe, (S-adenosylhomocysteine). You can pick this up in vitamin section of larger chain stores. Usually sold for depression/energy. Looks like per article it may be a good biofilm inhibitor...(p 2169)

N-Acetyl Cysteine. Some else mentioned in forum before. Have tried already and had some luck. (see page 2169)

Iron supplements may inhibit formation of P. aeurginosa, (p 2173)

PS: Something else may not be article but supported somwhere...Pectin may help much with this. Just started taking a grapefruit pectin supplement today.


Also, scroll down to page 2172. Does the "quorum sensing" language look familiar?

[ladycolorado]

evdown some intersting information. one of the things said might cut the biofilm is ferric ammonium citrate. (a type of iron ) . now i found some cool things, an anti-itch spray containing ferric ammonium citrate for poison oak and poison ivy (do they not leave a biofilm of oil of sorts?)we used to use a soap called fels naptha, but i cannot find it anymore. well wait i found it!(no iron but cuts film of poison ivy off of things) can use for laundry too, (and if lucky a tool for ALL DECONTAMINATION) but we would wash ourselves in it too in the tub. if washed with it quickly enough, we would not get poison ivy (like one hr after exposure) mom said it would get the poison film of poison ivy off us. here is the link: http://www.soapsgonebuy.com/ProductD...ductCode=D1001 . now here is a link to show its many uses, even good for laundry: http://www.soapsgonebuy.com/ProductD...1&Show=ExtInfo . here is a link to the material saftey data sheet on the product: http://www.soapsgonebuy.com/ProductD...Show=TechSpecs . look at the reviews also on the bottom, how many products get all 5 star ratings for $1.25 a bar? since poison ivy can leave a film on clothes for a year, i bet this WILL CUT THE BIOFILM OF MORGELLONS DISEASE! i think will order some (hee hee) and share my findings! it is a pure soap, no detergents! this spray is called itch nix, i found super cheap spray (i price compared, as we do not like to get ripped) here is the link for itch nix: http://www.wholesalesupplementstore....pi&sptype=osmx . $3.89 for 4 oz! it also contains aloe and othe botanicals. (it does have propeline glycol as a nod to the chemically sensitve). here is a supplement which contains ferric ammonium sulphate, for internal use, DO NOT THINK MORE IS GOOD,YOU CAN O.D. ON IRON! (in other words possibly die from too much iron) so take what it recommends, please! here is the supplement link, looks good to me: http://organicpharmacy.org/products/.../SKU:70210-arg . i also found a supplemet for pets called hi-vite drops for small animals, here is the link: http://www.vetamerica.com/index.asp?...ROD&ProdID=455 . also, i have listed this site for bath salts, this salt has iron in it, also has on site good salt for internal purification, salt containing iron will ususally be pink or brown. can make own meatbroth or buy consumme' without salt to make a tasty and healthful broth. i have been told the himilayan salt is the very best kind, but here is the link for the nice bath salts, they even come in different crystal sizes: http://www.saltworks.us/shop/product.asp?idProduct=297 . one final recommendation for safely introducing iron in your diet that many forget: cast iron cookware. have you noticed that with the advent of aluminum and teflon, etc how many more people are sick? well i would recommend at least getting a cast iron skillet, as long as keep seasoned with oil (i like olive oil) never sticks and naturally adds iron to food. of course, some green leafy vegtables such as spinach, aspargus, brocooli collard greens and of course meat and oysters are also high iron foods. ow, this part is just a theory of mine, but i also believe oxygenation cuts this biofilm, like the palmolive oxy plus dishsoap i have mentioned (the green handwashing dishsoap) and oxygenating machines can be bought on the market to oxygenate water, etc. i will also read in this nice link, thanks evdown, o confirning my findings that there is a biofilm on us, must be why i take the zithromax this antibiotic cuts the biofilm (and i think they use for staph infections too), and the ceftriaxone i took formerly by iv was to fight borellia. see, i am glad you put this up because not just the how something happens, but let us find a way to DO something about it, this morgellons disease biofilm is SUPER annoying, and drives us nuts. please folks, put anything else up think might fight my biofilm, both topical, ad internal supplements to help. EVDOWNJR, YOU ARE SO INTELLIGENT TO FIND THIS INFORMATION, I NEVER COULD! (LC)

[posey]

I'm trying to get there by omitting things each time due to not being able to reach the article from the posted link. Thought maybe a couple of the ...taken out would work.

posey

[Katinka]

Speaking about cutting biofilm...here... this worked for me and it might help you guys here too.

Aloe Soap - pure and natural

Rubbing your skin with a loofa sponge and aloe soap really disolves the biofilm....the skin is squeaky and absolutely clean.
Don't forget to use lotion added with your whatever you use afterwards.

And it smells good too

Katinka