trouble with eyes-please help

[gumball]

hi this is gumball i am new to this message board and i am not very good at typing so please forgive me i am really glad i found this site i have read many helpful things i have been doing the treatment steps it is helping a lot but i am having trouble with my eyes i have tried the ecovie but they still hurt any suggestions would be really appreciated thank you

[ladycolorado]

hi gumball good doing the treatment steps, see when start killing off disease some, it tries to go to other places like the eyes. have you however tried the ecovie in a plant mister bottle, 1/5th ecovie to rest warm water to activate? spray in eyes as needed, particulary before you close eyes to sleep. the only other things know of ca do, is that you can briefly open eyes in the ecovie ad peroxide salt baths briefly, or some use collidal silver in eyes, but ot sure of that use. ca go to http://www.morgellonstreatmentsteps.com/ to see. i do know that if live in south and have a chinaberry leaf tree, can dry leaves in oven and make topical treatment (do not drink) can spray in eyes. i have some of these leaves they do make the worms leave but not pleasant because of the high die off rate. (one day had worms exit eyes over a day was like about 150 of them. smells like alphalpha tea and green colored. anyway pm me if like, hope this helps. (LC).

[gumball]

thank you ladycolorado for your help i do have eco vie in a spay bottle i spay my eyes a couple times a day i will try to open my eyes when i take a bath tonight i do eco vie one day and silver the next day i get some relief but my eyes are blurry and hurt i live in the midwest thanks gumball

[carla]

Hi gumball, when your have a h20 bath lopen your eyes under water for a while . This kills off the floaters too. carla

[ladycolorado]

Originally Posted by gumball

thank you ladycolorado for your help i do have eco vie in a spay bottle i spay my eyes a couple times a day i will try to open my eyes when i take a bath tonight i do eco vie one day and silver the next day i get some relief but my eyes are blurry and hurt i live in the midwest thanks gumball

two reminders with sprayig the eyes with ecovie i forgot: if you rub them after spray, makes it worse. will be painful but have to actually let this stuff break down organisms on its own in eyes. rubbig them with toilet paper or other stuff is a NO NO. THE before close eyes for bed important, and will have to sprayb eyes MORE than 2x a day for a while. antother tip: running fans or a/c can blow this stuff around: fans should be cleaned and the vents too. but if you do sweeping cleaning get some goggles to protect the eyes when doing so, i leand this the hard way myself. if you get ANYTHING: get a dyson vacuum so you can suck the organisms up without blowing them back on you. you can get these at home depot. sorry, i just thought of these things, as has been awhile since my eyes were like this, sorry. but i remember the reward i got from sweeping back then: becoming half blind. one day i went out into a blizzard in winter in this state, i had to walk 1/2 mile to walgreens to get candles because power went out. was sad but funy, i got rewarded with two falls and a wet butt. but when it is cooler a time i would walk to slow stuff down. (i actually once went out in -7 temps without windchill because of this, awful huh? we have been there, gee i am so sorry i know how this stuff hurts. but i shall do my best to help you, we all love you, (LC).

[gumball]

ladycolorado that must be what i am doing wrong i have been massaging my eyes and wiping with tissue i will stop doing that it was hard to get my eyes to open under the water i have never done that before i got them to semi open last night and i have been spaying them today they are not as sore now i will have to wait on the vacuum as money is a little tight i clean my fans once a week those temps sound familiar brrrr thanks a bunch gumball

[gumball]

hi carla tonight is peroxide night in the tub i will have to try to force my eyes to open as they do not want to cooperate thanks a bunch gumball

[Kritters]

Hi Gumbal & everyone~

I ONCE tried peroxide a long time ago in my eye without DILUTING. YIKES

I realize everyone else under the sun knows that, but just wanted to be sure.

Why not use an eyedropper of any of these solutions as you would for contac lenses? In fact, if you have any empty bottles, what about washing one out and using IT?

Also, since the eyes and sinuses are very closely related in proximity, what about shooting some of this stuff up the nose as well? Hey, while your at it....the ears.

Hey, just realized......why not just dunk your whole head and open your eyes!!!!

YEAH, KRITTERS.....THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN SAYING TO DO!!!! BOY YOU'RE DENSE.

Krits

[carla]

Good luck Gumball . Force them to cooperate .Keep them open for as long as possible and blink loads
carla

[ladycolorado]

(LC) do not forget about the saftey goggles when clean, as dumb as this sounds, so you do not hurt your eyes. and yeah opening eyes in the peroxide or ecovie baths does help. here is a question: do you have curtains directly above the bed? i had to get rid of mine, blinds or silk jaquard curtains which can be bought at family dollar are better. you can also get nice satin sheets there for the bed, you will sweat in them, but better to wake smelling of die-off and to smother some of it a bit. a plastic matress cover for the bed is good, and pillows. it will take time to get the contamination down in your home. i wash clothes in ammonia only, cannot mix ammonia with stuff as it can be dangerous. steer clear of bleach and antibacterial products, as they make things worse. if eyes get to where want to rub them, spray instead with the ecovie. my mantra is spray, don't scratch and spray don't wipe. these creatures can be in toilet paper, do not feel bad i did the same thing in the beginning, (LC).