blood cell disease possible? Carnicom page

[jeanlong]

I just saw this, but have not mentally digested it, and, did not see it mentioned on this forum yet so thought it might be interesting to some.

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I only briefly glanced at it and haven't read it all yet; at a fast first pass came away with the idea this M illness may be pathogen based and damaging to the blood cells. Perhaps it is a blood infection that results in numerous systemic problems.

[sportsman1969]

I have proof it is a single yet complex organism. I'll say it like this. Imagine if you could separate your finger and send it to do tasks for you. Then you could send out all the fingers, hand and arm while you stayed idle. All the body parts you sent out can regroup and communicate. When they finish the task they regroup back to you the mothership. That's this parasite the strongylus monospinigerum. It feeds off cotton; clothing, ect.. take a 150 watt light and start to scratch your head or arm and watch as the lint spores fly off and show intiligent capabilities. They can move fast, float upward toward light, group with others and many will seek out your cotton t-shirt. They bind together and even when separate are one enity. Yes they are in your blood, your skin and your environment. Until we can find a way to kill it in all three areas, we will not be free from this mico-predator. Which grows to inches long. I have collected them from lint/spore size to 4 inches long! Godspeed!

[jeanlong]

Hi sportsman

please elaborate and clarify. what do you disagree with, that carnicom found an iron problem? or what exactly are you in disagreement with. that is unclear.

and elaborate on what proof you have of what. I am unfamiliar with the organism you mention. very interested but not followed any threads you have started.

do you think the problem is, or is not due to a pathogen?

best regards
Jean

Originally Posted by sportsman1969

I have proof it is a single yet complex organism. I'll say it like this. Imagine if you could separate your finger and send it to do tasks for you. Then you could send out all the fingers, hand and arm while you stayed idle. All the body parts you sent out can regroup and communicate. When they finish the task they regroup back to you the mothership. That's this parasite the strongylus monospinigerum. It feeds off cotton; clothing, ect.. take a 150 watt light and start to scratch your head or arm and watch as the lint spores fly off and show intiligent capabilities. They can move fast, float upward toward light, group with others and many will seek out your cotton t-shirt. They bind together and even when separate are one enity. Yes they are in your blood, your skin and your environment. Until we can find a way to kill it in all three areas, we will not be free from this mico-predator. Which grows to inches long. I have collected them from lint/spore size to 4 inches long! Godspeed!

[tcmgpt13]

If it's in the bloodstream how could our blood continue to appear normal under a microscope? I think if something were really going on, then our blood would have some abnormal appearance under a microscope and such abnormality would show up for all of us, even if what was changed could not be identified. Surely folks like Harvey who treated hundreds of Morgellons patients had blood scanned for an abnormal appearance under a slide?

Sportsman, you continue to make a lot of unproven and/or alarmist statements here. There are many here, some new, who are frightened enough already about this disease. It doesn't seem very sportsmanlike to do this. Please back up what you say with proof and not conjecture.

quote=jeanlong;84851]I just saw this, but have not mentally digested it, and, did not see it mentioned on this forum yet so thought it might be interesting to some.

Aerosol Operation Crimes & Cover Up

I only briefly glanced at it and haven't read it all yet; at a fast first pass came away with the idea this M illness may be pathogen based and damaging to the blood cells. Perhaps it is a blood infection that results in numerous systemic problems.[/quote]

[jeanlong]

Excellent question !! yes, this has been in my thoughts too. This is what I am learning about the lab tests and it is part of the frustration of attempting to obtain a correct diagnosis.

do we know? I mean does M blood appear normal, or not under, say 1200x magnification? malaria needs enormous magnification to be correctly diagnosed. a new similar pathogen would require much lab work to identify.

Let's say M is caused by a blood cell pathogen, but,say it is not malaria. Then my doc orders a malaria test. Yes, the lab will take the blood, magnify it, 1000x, 1200 or 1500 power to view. then if there is malaria, the cellular parasite will be seen and ID'd. but let's say it's very similar to, but not malaria. the lab won't come back and and say, well it's not malaria but there is a blood cell parasite with unknown taxonomy.

No lab I have found will test for blood cell "abnormal appearance". this means that if there is a single-cell protozoan pathogen (which malaria is) that damages blood cells, but is not malaria, all the labs will still not ID the pathogen. the lab test I or any doc can order is specific for known pathogens.

The only way that makes sense to do this scientifically with a microscopic exam is to obtain equipment and test several people with M. I dont have a lab, a 1000x magnification set up or several people to test. Even if I invested in costly lab equipment and could personally see a new tiny pathogen in my blood cells, and do/find treatment to "cure" the problem and stop M in myself, that is not confirmation. I'm extremely frustrated with the lab testing. we've spent hours in doctor and lab visits and $1000's in test fees, not all of which is covered by my health insurance. what I need to make rapid progress is to connect with someone who is actually researching M. I don't see how that can happen. I'd happily try out many of my tcm herb rx's on various M cultures (assuming some could be grown) to see what is most effective.

Despite my TCM training I also like western science medical paradigm and would gladly use it,if it were more useful, to obtain a western diagnosis. In the absence of any correct pathogen or allergen diagnosis, I will plod along tinkering with my TCM rx's and acupuncture point treatments. I am learning more all the time, but do not have the home run hit formulation yet. I'm close I hope. this suffering destroys my life for weeks at a time during M episodes with pain, swelling, sleep deprivation, open lesions and scary M objects that pop out.

Originally Posted by tcmgpt13

If it's in the bloodstream how could our blood continue
to appear normal under a microscope? I think if something were really going on, then our blood would have some abnormal appearance under a microscope and such abnormality would show up for all of us, even if what was changed could not be identified. Surely folks like Harvey who treated hundreds of Morgellons patients had blood scanned for an abnormal appearance under a slide?

[sammy]

i have had 500 blood tests and they come back normal. so this doesnt ride sammy

[sammy]

Originally Posted by sportsman1969

I have proof it is a single yet complex organism. I'll say it like this. Imagine if you could separate your finger and send it to do tasks for you. Then you could send out all the fingers, hand and arm while you stayed idle. All the body parts you sent out can regroup and communicate. When they finish the task they regroup back to you the mothership. That's this parasite the strongylus monospinigerum. It feeds off cotton; clothing, ect.. take a 150 watt light and start to scratch your head or arm and watch as the lint spores fly off and show intiligent capabilities. They can move fast, float upward toward light, group with others and many will seek out your cotton t-shirt. They bind together and even when separate are one enity. Yes they are in your blood, your skin and your environment. Until we can find a way to kill it in all three areas, we will not be free from this mico-predator. Which grows to inches long. I have collected them from lint/spore size to 4 inches long! Godspeed!

everyone wears cotton if this was the case we would be seeing much more of this on everyone. sammy

[jeanlong]

ditto here. not 500, but dozens. it is possible it is an emerging disease pathogen could be the root cause etiology, for reasons just explained. I'm not saying I know that this is the problem; but,that it is impossible to rule out this possibility with the lab tests now available.


in your case and mine it just means for known conditions and ID'ed pathogens the test is negative. it does not mean there isn't a new pathogen which science has not yet identified.

Originally Posted by sammy

i have had 500 blood tests and they come back normal. so this doesnt ride sammy