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Old October 15th, 2011, 03:04 PM
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I have been my own guinea pig for TCM treatments for M problems and examined seen a few other people with M problems. Before I became ill I only saw intermittent, mild cases of M problems.

Then over a year ago I was bitten and since then have had no end of intermittent skin eruptions with weird M objects popping out of my skin. No medical testing or biopsy explains these problems. On myself I have had the most success using TCM herbs from several different categories at different times, which is very unusual for treatment of one illness. TCM is a black box system so to speak and uses a non-western paradigm. for the OMD or other TCM expert treatment should be based on a TCM diagnosis of a root cause. but that does not equate to a western MD allopathic diagnosis.

Well the #1 problem I keep seeing is there are toxic materials that need to be eliminated from my body, a systemic issue. toxicity is not a unique TCM concept; this raises the question in western medicine terms: is this toxic matter from a single hit of venom and/or xenobiotic type susbtance that is taking a long time for the immune system to break down and neutralize? or is this toxicity problem due to an ongoing endotoxin or exotoxin issue where a foreign organism in the system is the cause of this toxic material? In the TCM herb texts I reviewed in an attempt to find solutions certain toxic and/or venomous materials (mostly natural, not industrial pollution) can get stuck inside. Certain herbs help break them down and get ejected.

the #2 problem is multiple and various signs of wei-qi damage. in western terms - - infections especially old viral ones getting active meaning the immune system is being overwhelmed to the point where it cannot keep all pathogens dormant which it normally would.

Then I keep thinking there must be a reservoir in the body where this stuff continues to live, where it is difficult for the system to jettison it. biofilm is the most likely explanation.does it live in the intestines? joints? blood cells? all of those places and more? Plus i am seeling M objects appear repeatedly on my computer objects in one room in the house. Perhaps I shed,but even if I clean up, travel and return there are fibers and orange gunk all over my desk when I return. I suspect a reinfection problem with a nest of M organisms somewhere in that room.can't figure out how to make it stop growing, either in my room or out of my skin.

Are there symbiotic pathogens/parasites involved, so that thorough treatment must eliminate, say, fungus, bacteria, plus parasites ?

with all these unknowns I just keep doing everything possible to protect myself from exposure to toxic materials of all types, eat to boost immunity, and include the healthiest routine including prolonged mild exercise...

I am and have been giving myself acupuncture for this. it can tone down symptoms.

My newest strategy is to do acupuncture to resolve venemous-toxic stuff. Then it seems lots of strange objects are pushed out of my body in various spots. One thing that happened recently is lots of blue dots came out right after the treatment which caused all types of skin heat. Then the latest is some weird ropy material is being eliminated through b.m. It is not mucus. This kind of grossed me out but I put a small bit of it under magnification and it's a mass of M fiber that has grown in a length mass, mostly of medium to longish fibers, and it is sort of a light tan-orange color encased in a weird clear flexible sheath. How I have no idea what this means, but I am suspecting the illness includes foreign organisms taking up residence in the bile duct and intestines.

when I read the posts of others and the case studies, in terms of TCM people have a varying collection of TCM problems. In TCM terminology... There are almost always damp-heat and/or toxic-heat syndrome. There is also blood-deficiency, yin-xu-heat, parasite, and blood stagnation. Sometimes there is kidney-qi not descending, or liver yang rising due to deficiency. Other problems are not described as frequently. that's about as technical as I'll get here - the TCM paper I wrote is available to licensed acupuncturists with specific points prescriptions discussed, but is not useful to non-OMD types. I will be uploading more photos too onto my website.



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Old October 27th, 2011, 02:53 PM
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Laundry Lint Pollutes the World's Oceans - ScienceNOW

we probably get this stuff into our system (into the human body that is) through multiple exposures such as air, water, and probably in higher amounts via any animal products such as eggs, poultry, fish and meat. Then the body cannot excrete this material and begins to do skin elimination by excreting it through the skin. Or it builds up in the liver and acts as a mutagen.

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Not a single beach was free of the colorful synthetic lint. Each cup (250 milliliters) of sand contained at least two fibers and as many as 31. The most contaminated samples came from areas with the highest human population density, suggesting that cities were an important source of the lint.

Cities come with sewers, and Browne's team thought the plastic fibers might enter the ocean via sewage. Sure enough, synthetic lint was relatively common in both treated wastewater and in ocean sediments from sites where sewage sludge had been dumped. In all the samples, the fibers were mainly polyester and acrylic, just like the ones from the beaches.


Cheese used to be made by hand using cheesecloth but consuming miniscule amounts of undyed unbleached cotton lint is not toxic. I can't imagine how the body would handle inadvertent ingestion of polyester, toxic dyes, toxic mordants, bleach, acrylic, nylon and natural fibers produced with massive pesticides to start with. Oh, yes I can, it could push it out all through the skin. So I have created new TCM formula and will take it immediately when it arrives, based on the above concept. Will update on this board after trying it to see if results are good.

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Old October 27th, 2011, 03:12 PM
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Laundry Lint Pollutes the World's Oceans - ScienceNOW

we probably get this stuff into our system (into the human body that is) through multiple exposures such as air, water, and probably in higher amounts via any animal products such as eggs, poultry, fish and meat. Then the body cannot excrete this material and begins to do skin elimination by excreting it through the skin. Or it builds up in the liver and acts as a mutagen.

Cheese used to be made by hand using cheesecloth but consuming miniscule amounts of cotton lint is not toxic. I can't imagine how the body would handle inadvertent ingestion of polyester. Oh, yes I can, it could push it out all through the skin. So I have created new TCM formula and will take it immediately when it arrives, based on the above concept. Will update on this board after trying it to see if results are good.
This is really very intriguing. I have switched over to wearing synthetic clothing which is primarily polyester. I am wearing a lot of fleece these days as it's gotten so cold, and my body temp is lower now. I wash my clothes right after I wear them, and there's always a lot of dryer lint in the basket.

The blankets I've been using are also polyester fleece, with the top two being red and blue (ironically). These are washed every other day. Again, tons of dryer lint, which would be expected.

The other night after I took a shower, I was applying my tea tree and lavender oils and I noticed dozens of fuschia-colored specks floating down to the paper towesl that I was standing on. On closer inspection, I realized that they were little lint balls, which had balled up from the oils and fallen from my skin. This was AFTER my shower, AFTER scrubbing for a long time with a loofah. And I had not worn pink or fuschia colored clothing that day.
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thanks for the post. We went the other way. Tried to eliminate all plastics out of our home. Not so easy. especially focused on ditching textiles from acrylic, nylon, lycra, spandex, polyester, etc since that's what looked like the wiry stuff poking out from under my skin appear to be like upon using magnification. Not 100% possible since spouse's uniforms are generally part or all polyester.

also we eliminated all plastics from the kitchen and shopping, so no more food is bought unless it is not in plastic, if possible. we cook from scratch and do not use plastic storage bins or kitchenwares.

In terms of the TCM framework I view things from, this equates to a toxic environmental problem if food is laced with miniscule plastic particles. It would damage normal immune response and explain all the skin problems people with M have.

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This is really very intriguing. I have switched over to wearing synthetic clothing which is primarily polyester. I am wearing a lot of fleece these days as it's gotten so cold, and my body temp is lower now. I wash my clothes right after I wear them, and there's always a lot of dryer lint in the basket.

The blankets I've been using are also polyester fleece, with the top two being red and blue (ironically). These are washed every other day. Again, tons of dryer lint, which would be expected.

The other night after I took a shower, I was applying my tea tree and lavender oils and I noticed dozens of fuschia-colored specks floating down to the paper towesl that I was standing on. On closer inspection, I realized that they were little lint balls, which had balled up from the oils and fallen from my skin. This was AFTER my shower, AFTER scrubbing for a long time with a loofah. And I had not worn pink or fuschia colored clothing that day.

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Old October 27th, 2011, 04:50 PM
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thanks for the post. We went the other way. Tried to eliminate all plastics out of our home. Not so easy. especially focused on ditching textiles from acrylic, nylon, lycra, spandex, polyester, etc since that's what looked like the wiry stuff poking out from under my skin appear to be like upon using magnification. Not 100% possible since spouse's uniforms are generally part or all polyester.

also we eliminated all plastics from the kitchen and shopping, so no more food is bought unless it is not in plastic, if possible. we cook from scratch and do not use plastic storage bins or kitchenwares.

In terms of the TCM framework I view things from, this equates to a toxic environmental problem if food is laced with miniscule plastic particles. It would damage normal immune response and explain all the skin problems people with M have.
Wow, this really IS interesting, since from what I've read here, the majority seem to feel that cotton is the culprit. It's so confusing. How is it going with your efforts? Presumably, you must wear a lot of cotton, right? Please let me know, as in my mind, natural is better. But in view of the whole laundering issue, do you just wash your clothes and put them right back in your drawers? You don't isolate them in plastic bags or anything?

How are your symptoms?
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Old October 27th, 2011, 11:14 PM
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Hi Jean,I enjoyed your posts and agree that the intestinal issue is one of the most core related areas for M to reside at.The bile ducts are also a longtime concern for me as the number of gall bladder surgeries have skyrocketed in the last decade along with thyroid surgery and kidney problems.Since I started to expel the large Massess of M things from my small intestine,my health has steadily gotten better to the point that friends have been telling me how much better that I look.I also feel much better and I can't find any things on my skin any more.I know from looking back that some of M is still inside me but ridding ones gut of this needs to be of the highest priority.I am hearing from more people about a symptom that I experienced 2 yrs. ago.People are having the sensation of bugs running in and out of their anal area.This plus ferocious bites inside my prostrate gland lead me to believe that something is living in these two areas.I stopped this with the 10% Ivermectin paste in about one week.I found a black splinter in my ear canal that I was cleaning and placed it under the microscope to take a pic of.Much to my surprise at the point where it had broken in half there were ten tiny bugs scurrying back inside the splinter.I have this video for posting and will do so but in my opinion this could be the same bug as what causes the anal issue with them running in and out at that area.Vids won't post here but utube will have it for viewing.I believe that the ivermectin killed them as this has never happened again but I have a friend that's going through this with the anal visitors.I also have pics of them in the egg stage inside a broken nest or splinter.
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Old November 1st, 2011, 04:27 AM
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After I had M I changed to only using bedding of organic cotton, in a sateen weave, that was grown without toxic pesticides, and never treated with common textile mordants or dyes. I periodically kept trying to go back to our high thread count conventional egyptian cotton sateen and every time would wake up with a nasty skin itching reaction.

does that mean there is a parasite in the older cotton sheet I have? I do not know. Is it all mental? I don't think so. I am still comfortably sleeping on the organic undyed unprinted cotton sheets and like them. As Janice recently posted many textile dyes are unhealthy. So with that in mind I have been wearing undyed unprinted unbleached organic cotton with the idea that ever since having M problems my sensitivites to toxic substances are heightened. It's not just sheets and clothes though - I am making progressive efforts to dredge out all toxic materials from our home and lives as much as possible. there are tons of mutagenic, carcinogenic and xenobiotic materials that we do not want inside our bodies, and for now I am fine with undyed plain textiles. I know I feel more comfortable in them. I do not believe these dyes made me sick but their absence now makes my skin feel better.

As for my symptoms I periodically have M episodes with itching and/or eruptions with fibers and hard shiny crystal objects causing pain. These do not seem to correlate to what I wear, but damp warm weather seems to set these episodes off or make them worse. Heavy rains in warm humid weather apparently is a bad environmental trigger for me.






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Wow, this really IS interesting, since from what I've read here, the majority seem to feel that cotton is the culprit. It's so confusing. How is it going with your efforts? Presumably, you must wear a lot of cotton, right? Please let me know, as in my mind, natural is better. But in view of the whole laundering issue, do you just wash your clothes and put them right back in your drawers? You don't isolate them in plastic bags or anything?

How are your symptoms?
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Old November 1st, 2011, 04:30 AM
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when i study both TCM and western parasite ideas, parasites and infectious bacteria certainly seem to find a place to nest inside the body and breed. apparently the gall bladder, the bile duct, the small intestine and the ear canal are 4 favorite places that they might want to stay/live in. the question is how to get them out of there, and keep these unwanted guests away.

what kind of M things came out of your small intestines?


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Hi Jean,I enjoyed your posts and agree that the intestinal issue is one of the most core related areas for M to reside at.The bile ducts are also a longtime concern for me as the number of gall bladder surgeries have skyrocketed in the last decade along with thyroid surgery and kidney problems.Since I started to expel the large Massess of M things from my small intestine,my health has steadily gotten better to the point that friends have been telling me how much better that I look.I also feel much better and I can't find any things on my skin any more.I know from looking back that some of M is still inside me but ridding ones gut of this needs to be of the highest priority.I am hearing from more people about a symptom that I experienced 2 yrs. ago.People are having the sensation of bugs running in and out of their anal area.This plus ferocious bites inside my prostrate gland lead me to believe that something is living in these two areas.I stopped this with the 10% Ivermectin paste in about one week.I found a black splinter in my ear canal that I was cleaning and placed it under the microscope to take a pic of.Much to my surprise at the point where it had broken in half there were ten tiny bugs scurrying back inside the splinter.I have this video for posting and will do so but in my opinion this could be the same bug as what causes the anal issue with them running in and out at that area.Vids won't post here but utube will have it for viewing.I believe that the ivermectin killed them as this has never happened again but I have a friend that's going through this with the anal visitors.I also have pics of them in the egg stage inside a broken nest or splinter.
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Old November 1st, 2011, 08:13 AM
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I had what looked like round worms or ascaris come out of the small intestine. Since ascaris worms are known to block the intestines possibly that's what this parasite infection was. The TCM formula for that area was what pushed them out. I think that continuing to use the two formulas (one for small, one for large intestines) as teapills, now in lesser amounts, is what is continuing to force out the parasite infections from these two areas. Whether or not they will cure these infections entirely I do not know (this is two years later and I still have some symptoms of parasites). These formulas certainly have helped reduce my symptoms over time. I think there is still one unidentified parasite which is the one that is behind many of our symptoms. Of course this is only my opinion. From what I have read about research in this area, background infections play an important role in allowing parasites to thrive in the body. In fact some parasites even bring unknown infections into the body, further complicating the picture. Oh, and I also continuously use a teapill formula for the gall bladder area, taking that one just before bed as it is close to gall bladder time (11 pm-1am) and will effect the gall bladder area more directly at that time. It will also help the transition to liver time (1-3am).
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