Clifford Carnicom Updates

[jonsi]

Aerosol Operation Crimes & Cover Up
MORGELLONS :
GROWTH INHIBITION CONFIRMED
Clifford E Carnicom
Mar 15 2010

Note: I am not offering any medical advice or diagnosis with the presentation of this information. I am acting solely as an independent researcher providing the results of extended observation and analysis of unusual biological conditions that are evident. Each individual must work with their own health professional to establish any appropriate course of action and any health related comments in this paper are solely for informational purposes and they are from my own perspective.

The growth of the bacterial-like organisms that appear to be at the foundation of the so-called Morgellons condition has been positively inhibited. The basis of the rationale that is used in these trials has been outlined in detail in a previous report entitled Morgellons : A Discovery and a Proposal1. The basis of that report is the application of a set of specific antioxidants that inhibit the growth of the organism(s) in the presence of the hydroxyl free radical and the creation of a more alkaline environment. It has been established in that earlier report that the organism(s) thrive in an acidic environment in the presence of the hydroxyl radical and oxidizers in general.

The basic strategy that has been adopted is a transformation of the growth environment to a more alkaline condition along with adding specific antioxidants that are directed toward the scavenging of the hydroxyl radical. Please also refer to the earlier paper for the rationale behind the selection of the particular antioxidants that have been used.

There is absolutely no statement herein that indicates the particular organism(s) has been terminated or extinguished, only that growth of the organism(s) under the specific conditions and trials mentioned has been inhibited. There is no assurance that all agents used in these trials is required to produce these results, nor that they be used at the arbitrary dosage levels that have been chosen for the cultures. Future work will examine the reduction or restriction of these same agents and dosages with the goal of replicating the results.

This paper shall be brief as it confirms the proposal of the preceding paper more explicitly. The primary purpose of the paper will be to demonstrate the inhibition that takes place in confirmation of the earlier work and to enumerate the specific antioxidants that have been used in these trials. There remains an overwhelming amount of work that remains to be done, and these results simply promote one particular strategy that is worthy of exhaustive and intense study. It is anticipated that other antioxidants that emphasize scavenging the hydroxyl radical and that alkalize the growth environment may also be effective.

(see link, jonsi had to delete text)
A more advanced stage of the bacterial-like (chlaymidia-like and mycoplasma-like) growth of the culture under condtions identical to that immediately above. This culture is approxmately 1-2 weeks old and is in white wine. The success and advantages of the white wine and clear culture (simulated wine) has been previously described.


The more advanced stage of surface filament growth in a wine culture medium as has been reported on extensively and as developed by an independent researcher that is in the process of duplicating a portion of this work. This photograph represents the first presentation of the filament stage of growth in a white wine vs. a red wine environment. This demonstrates the lack of dependence upon the color of a red or white wine to produce this culminating stage of growth. This culture has been developed from a separate red-wine filament culture and not from the bacterial stage exhibited above. This filament growth is identical to that which originates from the dental sample cultures that have been reported on extensively in this site. The filament growth exhibited here has also been shown to be identical in form, size and structure to that developed from certain environmental samples, namely that which has been refused for identification by the U.S. Envriomental Protection Agency.


A view of the developing bacterial-like stage of growth in the petri dish as shown above under relatively low magnification, i.e., approx. 300x after approximately 3 to 4 days. This is the unrestrained growth example that is presented above. The general gross structure of the colony can be examined at this level, but individual detail requires high magnification (approx. 10,000x). The growth in this photograph is substantial and appears as essentially a continuous layer of growth under the microscope.



Another view of the developing culture at approximately 300x. This photograph is showing the emergence of the filament stage of growth within the culture; this filament stage is not visible by eye. Individual detailed study of the early growth of the culture requires high magnification (approx. 10,000x).


The restrained, or inhibited, growth of the culture under relatively low magnification (approx. 300x) in the petri dish at the end of the same time period, i.e., approximately 3 to 4 days. The lack of growth is apparent. Essentially what is being viewed here is the bottom surface of the petri dish looking through a white wine solution. The particular set of antioxidants chosen (under a specific and arbitrary dosage level) successfully inhibits the further development of the culture.



Additional notes:

Note: I am not offering any medical advice or diagnosis with the presentation of this information. I am acting solely as an independent researcher providing the results of extended observation and analysis of unusual biological conditions that are evident. Each individual must work with their own health professional to establish any appropriate course of action and any health related comments in this paper are solely for informational purposes and they are from my own perspective.

The white wine medium in each dish is 30 ml. At this point, no distinctions in growth have been determined between different varieties of wine, either red or white. The white wine cultures offer the advantage of clarity in observation.

Some reports on toxicity levels of ascorbic acid and Vitamin C reported on are as follows:

"Since ascorbic acid is a water-soluble vitamin, toxic levels are not built up or stored in the body, and any excess is lost mostly through urine. If extremely large amounts are taken gastrointestinal problems may appear, but will normalize when the intake is cut or reduced. To determine a level where a person might experience discomfort is difficult, since some people can easily stomach up to 25,000 mg per day, while others start having a problem at 600 or 1,000 mg."3



"Vitamin C exhibits remarkably low toxicity. The LD50 (the dose that will kill 50% of a population) in rats is generally accepted to be 11.9 grams per kilogram of body weight when taken orally.[56] The LD50 in humans remains unknown, owing to medical ethics that preclude experiments that would put patients at risk of harm. However, as with all substances tested in this way, the LD50 is taken as a guide to its toxicity in humans and no data to contradict this has been found."4

Approximately 30 mg. of ascorbic acid has been added to the volume of 30 ml of white wine (approx. 1000 mg. / kg of solution). Equating this roughly to the human body (assume 70 kg.), this translates to a single dosage of approximately 70 gms. Assuming an ingestion of 1000 mg per day, this equates to distributing the above dosage over a period of approximately 70 days to reach the equivalent result. An ingestion rate of 10,000 mg. of ascorbic acid per day leads to a time period of approximately 7 days to reach an equivalent result.

This example points out the outstanding and continuous need for all individuals to consult with their own medical professionals to manage their own individual health requirements and objectives; I have not and I will not provide any medical or diagnostic advice. I have reported and I will report on laboratory conditions and the results achieved from that work.
Note: I am not offering any medical advice or diagnosis with the presentation of this information. I am acting solely as an independent researcher providing the results of extended observation and analysis of unusual biological conditions that are evident. Each individual must work with their own health professional to establish any appropriate course of action and any health related comments in this paper are solely for informational purposes and they are from my own perspective.
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In the white light,
~jonsi

[Steve Frey]

Cliff's work is groundbreaking, I just can't believe he is the only one performing these kinds of studies. We're under attack and most of Science is standing around and doing nothing.

[Venetia]

Agree Steve re Carnicom.

Guess 'M' is a do-it-yourself kind of condition.....

Think about it though, the science has been established and sourced per above.

The process in the environment and in our bodies is found on these pages.

Looking at the daily newspaper or watching the news on TV, we see every day a link to the issues caused and it all connects. The bees, the bats, the dolphins, the volcano erupting, dead trees everywhere, sick animals and our symptoms. It all ties.

Since we know what is going on- we need to attempt to make the changes.




I'm still fired up from watching a Michael Moore documentary last night- it may pass....

[Steve Frey]

I totally agree V, the bees, bats, dolphins, animals, plants, and us humans, we are all under attack in a serious way and to be honest with you it's beginning to scare the hell out of me, and mark my words, there is more to these dolphins carrying around sponges than meets the eye, which just blows my mind, what could possibly be going on there?

[sarothra]

I find this especially interesting today because I just finished a 75 gram VitaminC
IV.

I've been doing this Vit.C IV therapy about a month and have worked up to the 75 grams. I plan on continuing these treatments until I can do several 100 gram Vitamin C IV's. I will also soon be doing self-administered B12 shots. I also did one chelation IV with Calcium EDTA.

I am REALLY hitting at my healing! I found an Amish woman who does treatments (accepts any donation) with RIFE and COLD LASER TREATMENTS. I really like the cold laser treatments because they seem to "kill" the top layer of the lesion (yes, I still have them at this point, but they are much smaller) - As most of us know, these lesions are in "layers" and it does take repeated applications of the cold laser to keep "killing" the layers.

No, I am not doing the famous Staninger protocol - I have chosen to go my own way, and I am happy with my progress. I ordered a biomodulator - it measures the voltage in our cells and emits a corresponding healing frequency. Basically, it sends VOLTAGE into your body between two points - wherever you put the two contact points, it will send voltage. If you had a lesion, you could put the contact points at either end of the lesion and send electricity into it. I plan on kicking some serious morgie butt.


Also I am avoiding GLUTEN. Anybody else gluten-free out there?

[jonsi]

Actually, Clifford Carnicom avoids the terminology of "nanotechnology" because one can not prove it exists under the microscope, it is too small to prove it exists under the scope...

I am not a scientist & I totally believe that nanotech is involved. I think that CC believes this too, but don't quote me on this because if you knew CC you would know how strict he is is with a scientific/data/controlled environment he works with. He won't mention nano until he can prove it...

I don't want to get into the drama going on between the two. So lets leave this thread to Carnicom's scientific data. I hope Staninger can prove it is nanotech, but scientifically she will need to prove it with data.

CC is my neighbor, my daughter is the blood in this study: Aerosol Operation Crimes & Cover Up

sarothra, I tested positive to having wheat, gluten, allergy and was desensitized. That very night I was able to stand up and walk without pain. I believe food allergies contribute to "M". Anything toxic to our bodies, this "M" gets it's strength from. More on desensitization is on one of my other threads on Total Body Modification Seminars

I just want everyone to get better!

Peace, in the white light,
~jonsi

[chewtoyofthegods]

Originally Posted by jonsi

Actually, Clifford Carnicom avoids the terminology of "nanotechnology" because one can not prove it exists under the microscope, it is too small to prove it exists under the scope...

"one can not prove it exists".
..that is not true.
..nanotech is not invisible..with the correct equipment.

CC may not be able to prove it's prescence with HIS microscopes..
common light microscopes are useless for viewing nano components.
However, equipment suitable for manipulating and viewing nano scale
parts..down to the ATOMIC scale..have existed for over twenty years.

1989...and people were moving INDIVIDUAL atoms around and making very tiny
advertisements with them..and taking photographs of their
handiwork.. No doubt the state of the art in "nanomanipulation
and imaging" has made great advances since that first "custom" scanning-tunneling microscope" that had to be hand built for the task.
The cost of such equipment is likely to be far outside the budget
of the "basement lab" folks..but if you have the money..appropriate
hardware for viewing nanotech.. is not an issue.
[maybe factory training available for cash purchases..could happen!]



On this day in 1989, IBM Fellow Don Eigler became the first person in history
to move and control an individual atom. Shortly thereafter, on November 11
of that year, Eigler and his team used a custom-built microscope to spell
out the letters IBM with 35 xenon atoms.




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[tcmgpt13]

Yes, I have been GF since before getting sick with Morgs. I had read that quite often there is connection between thyroid disease, goiters, and gluten sensitivity. Also at the time I was having a lot of hip pain which left within three weeks of going GF. Some discussions of gluten sensitivity in the links. More and more I think gut issues are at the heart of this illness, though I am sure it could differ from person to person as to what those issues are:

Celiac and Autoimmune Diseases, something to consider Part 1

AMA confirms Morgellons Systemic- origin in gut (permalink 6)

I have been using a cold laser on my healed lesion scars. Seems to help them fade somewhat. Also I had lesions try to start on my forehead this year, the little parasite I usually get was making her appearance, trying her short (so reduced in size from the beginning parasites) little hardest (well there were a few larvae as gifts which I immediately got rid of), but none of them could take hold between the laser and the constant use of herbs for the intestinal area. What I am doing this year is really drying up all attempts these parasites are making to break out in lesions. So far the only one has tried to start.

I believe there are many ways to get well. Morgellons syndrome does not seem to be a one size fits all illness.

That Vitamin C IV sounds good. Wish I had a doctor near me who did that. I am also taking a B shot combo, of which B-12 is one. It helps energy, though I am still working on that issue. I think you will notice some difference from using the B-12. There are other posters who have started on this too.

Oh, and what I saw? It was not nanotechnology. It was parasites. I know as when they were huge (parasites adapt to their surroundings and change size and sometimes shape) it was easy to see they were parasites. They moved. And had anatomy which looked like some sort of an insect (this one I still cannot identify).

Originally Posted by sarothra

I find this especially interesting today because I just finished a 75 gram VitaminC
IV.

I've been doing this Vit.C IV therapy about a month and have worked up to the 75 grams. I plan on continuing these treatments until I can do several 100 gram Vitamin C IV's. I will also soon be doing self-administered B12 shots. I also did one chelation IV with Calcium EDTA.

I am REALLY hitting at my healing! I found an Amish woman who does treatments (accepts any donation) with RIFE and COLD LASER TREATMENTS. I really like the cold laser treatments because they seem to "kill" the top layer of the lesion (yes, I still have them at this point, but they are much smaller) - As most of us know, these lesions are in "layers" and it does take repeated applications of the cold laser to keep "killing" the layers.

No, I am not doing the famous Staninger protocol - I have chosen to go my own way, and I am happy with my progress. I ordered a biomodulator - it measures the voltage in our cells and emits a corresponding healing frequency. Basically, it sends VOLTAGE into your body between two points - wherever you put the two contact points, it will send voltage. If you had a lesion, you could put the contact points at either end of the lesion and send electricity into it. I plan on kicking some serious morgie butt.


Also I am avoiding GLUTEN. Anybody else gluten-free out there?

[Bee]

TCM, What did those large changable parasites look like ? Have you visited the Slug sites ?
If you do, check out the New Green Sea Slug that changed it's DNA.
I think I've seen those !

Wonder if Steve Frey seen an article on them?

[tcmgpt13]

No, these are not slugs Bee. The wings looked like a moth's wings and the body part was different than either a moth or butterfly. Light beige in color and they hooked together like pulling handkerchiefs out of a hat, only in this case it was my lips. Ugh. Truly scary. Later I had some in my gums, only much smaller. Again scary. Later they changed again, formed around the lesions with one wing, still hooked, but no longer together and they would send out something which stung when I tried to dislodge them. This latest attempt, the critter was very small one, hardly could do anything. Healed up the tiny place in a week. A drop of blood (not streams) and some larvae and granules when I dug it out with Sunspot ES. Pain was so small as to be almost unnoticeable. I think that cleansing the intestines for such a prolonged period has been key to seeing the seige of these parasites finally dwindle. I have a FIR sauna, but it was not enough to cure whatever this is. I don't know if they are all gone yet, but I see definite progress lately.