Could this come from a live Sponge
Morgellons-Morgellons Disease

Go Back   Morgellons-Morgellons Disease > Morgellons > Morgellons Theories & Speculations
Forgot Password? Join Us!

Morgellons Theories & Speculations Discussion on Theories and Speculations on Morgellons


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old November 11th, 2009, 10:06 PM
silverlark is Still Alive!!
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: WI
Posts: 182
Default Could this come from a live Sponge

I was reading a post about the fungus theories and someone said this,,,,,,


"I know this sounds strange, but the sponge replication theory can explain what you are finding, I've even found evidence supporting the idea that the sponge can produce the pine pollen reportedly associated with morgellons, of course Science thinks it's just contamination of the sponge since they have no other way of explaining it but the theory explains it as it does just about everything else that is found associated with morgellons."

I remember when i was in Mexico before i left i found a sponge on the shoreline and picked it up and brought it back to the hotel room, and was handling it a LOT...Just thought id mentioned that again in case this turns out to be something from an orange/red sponge which is what i picked up form the ocean shore.........not sure if it ever came from this but thought i would mention it...

Just another threory to throw out there

Last edited by silverlark; November 11th, 2009 at 10:09 PM.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #2 (permalink)  
Old November 11th, 2009, 10:19 PM
Steve Frey is Invincible
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Auburn, ca
Posts: 1,097
Default

Just curious, did your symptoms begin on your hands?
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old November 11th, 2009, 10:24 PM
silverlark is Still Alive!!
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: WI
Posts: 182
Default

neg started out as a UTI infection(chlaymydial trachomatis) which was the only thing that was tested as being + (yes sexual contact is the most likely source) for....Also things were bitting my feet from my sandals i was wearing also......This could also have came from the bathtub in mexico too since i took a bath in the tube......so i cant really say for sure what the source is just throwing things out there..........
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old November 11th, 2009, 10:33 PM
Kritters is a fungus magnet
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 6,508
Default

Silverlark...did you say 'orange red'? yes I know you did, but I wanted to add drama to this post.

I've mentioned this previously, but I have walked the beach almost daily for years and prior to this, I noticed a red/orange (really fugly) jellyfish that I had NEVER before seen on the shore. It was EVERYWHERE and I noticed how strange it was. (yeah, Stevie...just as I noticed how strange the criss-cross pattern of CHEMTRAILS were the strangest things as well)

Kritts
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old November 11th, 2009, 10:43 PM
silverlark is Still Alive!!
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: WI
Posts: 182
Default

this was not not a jelly fish or seaweed or anything like that i will try to find a link of what a orange sponge looks like if you dont know?

http://www.scubaphoto.com/destinatio...fSlope-800.jpg

Last edited by silverlark; November 11th, 2009 at 10:46 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old November 11th, 2009, 10:47 PM
Katinka is never giving up!
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 2,537
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kritters View Post
Silverlark...did you say 'orange red'? yes I know you did, but I wanted to add drama to this post.

I've mentioned this previously, but I have walked the beach almost daily for years and prior to this, I noticed a red/orange (really fugly) jellyfish that I had NEVER before seen on the shore. It was EVERYWHERE and I noticed how strange it was. (yeah, Stevie...just as I noticed how strange the criss-cross pattern of CHEMTRAILS were the strangest things as well)

Kritts
Yeah, Kritts, I remember that and you even showed pictures..really odd looking creatures!

Kat
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old November 12th, 2009, 10:20 AM
carla is a bit itchy
Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Liverpool UK
Posts: 3,291
Default

If you Google the terms ,'Scientist research Sea sponge there are 55,500 results and the term 'Merk research Seasponge' you get about 3,370.
Some of them go back 10 years.

Heres some quotes that stuck out.

Quote:
In experiments carried out on these sponges this summer, Dr. Fernāndez-Busquets and his colleagues are studying the cells and molecules believed to be involved in the process of tissue rejection. By grafting together pieces of different individual sponges that will reject each other—a process that approximates what sometimes happens in human transplants - the scientists have observed that cells known as gray cells migrate to and amass at the graft site, a clear suggestion that they are involved in non-self tissue recognition and rejection. Researchers believe that gray cells may be a primitive form of our immune system's human killer cells.

Fernāndez-Busquets has also been researching the role of the molecule called aggregation factor proteoglycan, which he has recently identified as another potential player in sponge tissue rejection reactions, and which is very easy to study in sponges. The human version of this molecule, which is different from the sponge version but similar in structure, is also believed to have important functions in cell-to-cell interactions, but is hard to study.

The ultimate goal of this research is to provide insights into the machinery behind human tissue rejection and immune responses in hopes of someday being able to control these processes and save lives.
Marine Biological Laboratory


Quote:
Growing value of products from marine biotechnology
The world’s oceans host 32 of the 34 known phyla on Earth, the report says. Species diversity is known to be as high as 1000 per square meter in the Indo-Pacific Ocean. Significantly, the ratio of potentially useful natural compounds is higher in marine than terrestrial organisms. There is, therefore, a higher probability of commercial success with marine-sourced material. However, the odds of success are long – just one to two percent of pre-clinical candidates become commercial products.


Nevertheless, the report says all major pharmaceutical firms, including Merck, Lilly, Pfizer, Hoffman-Laroche and Bristol-Myers Squibb, have marine biology departments, and cites the following estimates:
  • Worldwide sales in 2000 of marine biotechnology-related products: US$ 100 billion;
  • Annual profits from a compound derived from a sea sponge to treat herpes: US$ 50 million to US$ 100 million;
  • Value of anti-cancer agents from marine organisms: US$ 1 billion a year.
Marine drugs can be used as antioxidant, anti-fungal, anti-HIV, antibiotic, anti-cancer, anti- tuberculosis and anti-malaria. Applications for the treatment of Alzheimer’s disease, cystic fibrosis and impotence are also under consideration.



Other marine-derived compounds have anti-inflammatory properties and one is used as an anti-irritant in cosmetics. A hormone extracted from salmon has been found effective in preventing osteoporosis while a salmon-derived sulfate is an antidote to the anticoagulant heparin.

Sponges are particularly targeted as potential sources of pharmaceutical products. Over 30 years, one of the most effective treatments for leukemia has been based on derivatives of a sponge. A compound based on a sponge-derived steroid completed phase 1 US trials as an asthma drug in 2000. Other research in progress includes treatments for breast and ovarian cancer.

http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache...&ct=clnk&gl=uk

Last edited by carla; November 12th, 2009 at 01:55 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old November 12th, 2009, 10:25 AM
carla is a bit itchy
Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Liverpool UK
Posts: 3,291
Default Nano Sponges

Quote:
Some have likened them to honeycombs; others to unending teacups, each only a billionth of a metre wide. But when it came to naming them they just had to be called nanosponges.
The idea is that one could clamp them across a water source — whether it is a kitchen tap or the pipe taking water into a power station — and they would soak up the fluid, catching impurities in their myriad tiny cavities and letting water through only in its purest form.


Nanosponges were invented at the Los Alamos National Laboratory in the United States by DeQuan Li and Min Ma over a decade ago. Within a couple of years Bheki Mamba and Rui Krause, of the University of Johannesburg in South Africa, began researching the sponges. They could see the potential for their own continent.

Another potential problem comes from the nanosponges' super-efficiency. While removing unwanted organic matter they might remove minerals that are useful to human health, acknowledges Krause. "In a rural community it may be important to remove biological pollution, such as [the bacteria] E.coli, while leaving some of the beneficial trace minerals if we can."
"Whether or not this is a real problem is open to debate, since we do not get a significant amount of minerals from the water we drink, and the polymers can be modified to remove things of specific polarity and size," he says.
Then there are the general fears about the potential health and environmental consequences of nanomaterials.
"Without knowing the properties of nanosponges we are being cautious," says Jo Burgess, manager of South Africa's Water Research Commission, which funds nanotechnology for drinking water, wastewater and mine water treatment."
"Nanosponges may be wonder materials with only beneficial effects, or they may be another asbestos — an apparent wonder material that turned out to cause health problems. Or more likely they will be somewhere in between.
After the Horse has bolted !

Nanosponges: South Africa's high hopes for clean water - SciDev.Net

Last edited by carla; November 12th, 2009 at 01:54 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old November 12th, 2009, 11:16 AM
Kritters is a fungus magnet
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 6,508
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Katinka View Post
Yeah, Kritts, I remember that and you even showed pictures..really odd looking creatures!

Kat
Yeah Kat, I was just thinking the sponge and jellyfish might have something in common. There goes my wild thinking again

Came across this just now.

SpringerLink - Journal Article
The distribution in Bacteria is largely restricted to the genus Streptomyces,

Wonder if it has any significance at all to anything....

xoKritts
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old November 12th, 2009, 12:13 PM
Kritters is a fungus magnet
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 6,508
Default

Just to prove how the SPONGE and JELLYFISH ARE CONNECTED:
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
just another theory to throw out there


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump
Translate This Page

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Steve Frey's Sponge replication theory Steve Frey Morgellons Theories & Speculations 204 January 6th, 2012 01:15 AM
Tarpon Springs - Sponge Capital of the World Sadsack Morgellons Theories & Speculations 12 August 24th, 2009 06:17 PM
Raw / Live Foods Seasprite Healthy Cooking & Eating 1 August 2nd, 2008 02:01 AM
Live Chat Anyone? linnysue Members' Lounge 2 March 11th, 2007 10:26 PM
my name is ann and i live in colorado springs. amindincolorado Morgellons Syndrome 2 October 8th, 2006 04:51 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:51 PM.

Community Twit

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0 ©2007, Crawlability, Inc.
MDR-Morgellons 2011
Main Forum, General Discussion, Morgellons Disease (Fiber Disease), Morgellons Treatment, Morgellons Cure, Lyme Disease, Scabies, World News, Morgellons Syndrome, Scabies Treatment, Lyme Disease Treatment, Complementary and Alternative Therapies, Morgellons Theories & Speculations, Introduce Yourself, Administrative Announcements, Suggestions/Website Requests, Complaints, Media, Guest Posting, Non-Recommended Products, Morgellons Poll, Morgellons Pictures, Insects, Parasites, Mites & Ticks, Members' Lounge, Admin & Mod Discussions, Health, Diet, Wellbeing & Weight Loss, Morgellons Disease Live Chat, Recycled, Antidepressants, Help Videos, The Rant Board, Morgellons Housekeeping Cleansing Tips, Morgellons And Pets, Support, Financial Aid, Healthy Cooking & Eating, Health Insurance, Medical News, lyme Disease Symptoms, Lyme Disease Doctors, Lyme Disease Alternative Treatments, Chronic Lymes Disease, Chronic Lyme Disease Treatment, Lyme Disease Prognosis, Drug-Alcohol Rehab/Suicide Prevention

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46