Stealth viruses

[pat]

Well very long article but Herpes is mentioned and fungus and a boat load of other stuff plus all the symptoms are there. Only thing is...given when this was first published how come no one in the medical community has made a connection.LOL

Stealth Viruses

[carla]

Additional complex associations between stealth adapted viruses and conventional microorganisms may exist. For example, the lipid-laden cells infected with a stealth virus appear especially favorable to the growth of intracellular bacteria, including Borrelia, the causative agent of Lyme disease.

Kat has just posted a thread about Stealth too.We're on a roll!

Alternative cellular energy pigments from bacteria of stealth virus

[tcmgpt13]

I see that John Martin and his stealth virus "info" are popping up once again on the forum. He may be making a lot of what he says up to sound good without any real science behind it.

You all may like to review this thread started by Jo:

Dr Martin research - Autism and Stealth viruses & Treatment

[pat]

Must have missed the article Jo wrote tcm.Do you reckon the guy is a nut case.Or just out to make a name for himself..there's plenty of those around too.

[Katinka]

[quote=tcmgpt13;47865]I see that John Martin and his stealth virus "info" are popping up once again on the forum. He may be making a lot of what he says up to sound good without any real science behind it.
/quote]


Hi Tcm! So, what do you think about all this? I would appreciate to hear what you have to say...really makes me wonder how come this subject hasn't been studied more..what's going on?
Kat

[tcmgpt13]

(This John C. Martin is not the same as the W. John Martin discussed in other my other posts on this thread...a Morgie memory slip here)

I am not really sure what to think of John C. Martin, Ph.d. I noticed today that he has managed to get an abstract of the "stealth" virus on pubmed. I do not know what research is behind it. What intrigues me is that he was connected to what sounded to me like some pretty questionable, money making "reseach" which was being conducted in Arakansas. He does not have his M.D. license anymore. Since when do most trials involve those who are participating to pay up for their experimental treatment? It does make you wonder, all of this.

In more recent searches today I am finding him as head of a company which has made some drugs, including some for HIV:

Senior Leadership: Gilead

Products: Gilead

Pretty sure you all will find this interesting (it is a long page, but it is more than one article). For instance Gilead was the originator of the drug tamiflu. Mercola has an article here too:

Who Owns the Rights on Tamiflu: Rumsfeld To Profit From Bird Flu Hoax

[tcmgpt13]

Note to change statement made in my post just before this one (that Martin had lost his license which I think may not be true(, evidently this guy is W.John Martin, the W. standing for William. When I looked him up on the CA physician lookup he has an MD license but cannot take fees. What happened was this according to:

Dr. John Martin stripped of License - National CFIDS Foundation Forum

"W. John Martin, M.D., Ph.D. has been stripped of his license to do any clinical
laboratory testing and his clinical laboratory license has been suspended. But does
he even have a laboratory to shut down anymore, and did he ever find a virus that
he has continued to call the "stealth virus"? The most amazing fact we found out
was that his license suspension was due to the work of one lone individual who is
merely a patient! "

I am not sure that the person I am finding on the CA website is the same doctor as he is listed as William J. Martin with an address. To say it with absolute certainty it is him is not possible (probably since he cannot accept fees this physician lookup could be him as if he has a clinical laboratory license he would not be treating patients). As noted in this quote his license was suspended but not revoked, so this could be the same person. I guess though he has lost his clinical testing license, while the clinical laboratory license has most likely been reinstated.

[Katinka]

thanks, tcm...

it's all about money..once more!

Kat

[tcmgpt13]

Looking at this again, I am not sure that the info I found out about Gilead involves the same John Martin as I just noticed that this is John C. Martin. It was the viral connection which fooled me. So I guess that leaves me back at square zero about this guy and the stealth virus. He may not even be the William J. Martin I found on the CA physician lookup list either. Still the connection with John C. Martin to Biotech and some of the favorite forum baddies (Rumsfeld for one) is interesting in itself.

[Jo]

Here's some other threads on it too lol

http://www.morgellons-disease-research.com/Morgellons-Message-Board/morgellons-disease-fiber-disease/3160-w-john-martin-m-d-ph-d.html

http://www.morgellons-disease-research.com/Morgellons-Message-Board/morgellons-disease-fiber-disease/3790-ace-pigments.html#post24985

http://www.morgellons-disease-research.com/Morgellons-Message-Board/morgellons-disease-fiber-disease/3159-c-e-pigments-mistaken-parasitic-infections.html

Jo xxx