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Old May 17th, 2009, 10:33 PM
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Just for fun I started researching Malaria. (I considered having a party, going out to play tennis, or playing kick-ball, but decided on researching Malaria)

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Malaria Site: History of Malaria Parasite And Its Global Spread




In 1897 Thayer published a series of lectures with several references to relapse in vivax malaria. In his speculations to explain latency, which must obtain preceding a relapse, he postulated that there must be an undiscovered form of the parasite. He wrote "the organism may remain perhaps within the cell body of certain phagocytes for long periods of time, only to be set free again as a result of some insult, the nature of which is not as yet appreciable to us."
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Soon, Ross discovered that the circular cells in the stomachs of the mosquitoes ruptured and the rods migrated to the insect's thorax. On July 4, 1898, Ross discovered their final destination. Examining the insect's head, he noted the salivary gland to be so loaded with rods that it quivered.gosh, could this have anything to do with the drooling some experience with Morgellons? Here then was the answer. Malaria was passed back to the birds in the mosquito's saliva during the act of biting. This remarkable finding, Ross later wrote, "brought him up standing."


Meanwhile in 1895, Thayer and Barker compiled 616 well documented malaria cases complete with fever curves and species-specific blood film microscopy, plus four autopsies of three P. falciparum cases and one P. vivax case. In 1897 Thayer published a series of lectures with several references to relapse in vivax malaria. In his speculations to explain latency, which must obtain preceding a relapse, he postulated that there must be an undiscovered form of the parasite. He wrote "the organism may remain perhaps within the cell body of certain phagocytes for long periods of time, only to be set free again as a result of some insult, the nature of which is not as yet appreciable to us."

The autopsies of victims showed the graphite pigmentation of the brain and spleen and black granular microscopic bodies in the blood that were long ago described by others.


In 1884, Marchiafava and Celli, while studying wet blood smears from malarious patients with the new oil-immersion lens, looked at unstained blood and saw a active amoeboid ring (trophozoite) in the red blood cells. They published this finding and named it Plasmodium, but did not refer to Laveran since they thought it was something different from what he showed them. The name chosen for the parasite by them turned out to be an incorrect one, since the organism is not actually a plasmodium. But the name stuck despite years of haggling. wtf????



A molecular link between malaria and Epstein-Barr ...[PLoS Pathog. 2007] - PubMed Result molecular link between malaria and Epstein-barr virus
epstein-barr being herpes!!!

There is a connection here. I honestly didn't expect to be able to google Lyme and Malaria and come up with any collective material. Boy was I surprised. Did you know that some people are actually intentionally becoming induced with malaria to be able to kick Lyme?

What the eff does THAT tell you? Let's ask Dr. Jeckyll or Mr. Hyde.

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Old May 18th, 2009, 08:12 AM
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Hi Kritts,
yes, there could actually be a connection. My Lyme doc prescribed Quensyl
which is a Malaria medication...Quensyl is also used for rheumatic ailments.
I emailed him to ask him explicit why.He hasn't replied yet. Quensyl is also used for rheumatic ailments. So, I think the connection could lay within that it lets antibiotics reach the connective tissues where Lyme bacteria are usually "hiding". The problem with most all antibiotics is that they do not penetrate
the connective tissues but only remain in blood system.
But this is only my theory...I will post his answer so we will know more.
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Old May 18th, 2009, 11:07 AM
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Thanks Katink~

Are you over the Lyme? Did it help?

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Old May 19th, 2009, 05:26 AM
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Kritts.
You always crack me up. Good detective work with malaria/Epstein Barr link. Wondering if lysine could be used to help with chronic fatigue, brain fog, lyme, a mutant malaria via Lyme and Epstein Barr; because it's used to treat herpes, shingles, etc. All in envelope virus family and related to herpes.
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Old May 19th, 2009, 07:29 AM
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Just for fun I started researching Malaria. (I considered having a party, going out to play tennis, or playing kick-ball, but decided on researching Malaria)

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LOL Kritts .
When you see Bill Gates has spent billions on Malaria research many years ago it has to make you wonder.It does me anyway .
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Old May 19th, 2009, 12:39 PM
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Kritts.
You always crack me up. Good detective work with malaria/Epstein Barr link. Wondering if lysine could be used to help with chronic fatigue, brain fog, lyme, a mutant malaria via Lyme and Epstein Barr; because it's used to treat herpes, shingles, etc. All in envelope virus family and related to herpes.
Faithxoxoxo

Miss you, girlfriend..we haven't spoken in a bit..my bad.

Thanks for taking the time to read through that post. I think I have some lysine...I'll have to check the buldging cabinet...if you don't hear from me, I'm knocked out cold from the vitamins and herbs crashing down on my head.

I think there must be a connection. Hey, in addition, from one website all about the history of Malaria, it's mentioned (if I remember correctly) that the Malaria pathogen is NOT really a plasmodium as reported. By the time they found it was something else (in the 1800's) the name was too solidly associated. I'll have to go back when I have the time (hah) to check it out further.

So, mycoplasma fermentans, fungus, virus, Malaria,.......what a nice little DNA package that was created.

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Old May 19th, 2009, 02:06 PM
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WOW Kritters!
Good work you have done! Very interesting.
So...you are the "poop investigator" now, huh? No, I'm just kidding

Maybe I really should post more pictures I have made...really "ugly" stuff I have found in my urine and stool? We could compare the similarities.

I'm thinking about uploading a video to utube...like our Mr.President LOL
does...to show you guys and galls here...the ORIGINAL worm. I was surrounded by many docs while showing this video..their reaction was a big WOW!! But they didn't say anything further..just nodding their heads like they understood what was going on. They are not telling us everything I suspect.

It's dragging a fiber along with it and you can tell how it trys to get away of the microscope light and to hide in darker places of the substance. The substance was a mucous looking grey black clump that came out of my bladder.

Other pics show a worm looking organism that looks like it's shedding out clear white fibers. One pic shows a worm with wrapped around fibers. Both found in my stool.

You see, Kritters and Baraka, I'm a POOP Investigator too

There IS definitely a parasite...nematode, trematode, fluke or even trypanosomas involved.

Trypanosomas is a Malaria pathogen which is as we all probably know
transmitted by a mosquito.

This I have mentioned before on another post..but I guess you missed it?

Here's pic:






Our bloated stomaches?


Malaria - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Malaria is NOT just a infectious disease in third world countries...at the german site it says people working at airports or even living next to airports can easily be infected. Remember my note..travellers who coud possibly carry these vectors? I picked my brother up from the airport last year...is this where I got "it" from?

I don't know...but I'm on Quensyl together with antibiotics. Why should my Lyme Doc prescribe a Malaria Medication ?? hmmmm, makes me wonder, or not??

Katinka


Just re-read this, Katink. Could you ask your doc WHY he prescribed a Malaria med? The answer should be interesting.

I've been thinking of the poor little babies in 3rd world countries who have bloated stomachs from the diseases they have, since my stomach has become so big. Granted, I have not worked out like I always have since a few years ago with this, but I have NEVER had a stomach like this.

When I used to read about those starving children having bloated stomachs, of course back then I just took the information for granted that it's just what happens. Now I have a whole other view of it, of course. It's probably from the infestation of worms and fungus they have in their intestines.

A friend of mine from Arizona wrote me not long ago how upset that her little kitten had become very ill and its stomach became huge. The vet gave it a name and said she should just put the cat down. What bull****. It was probably infested with parasites. I have lost such respect for doctors of humans and animals alike.

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Originally posted by Kritters,


Hey Kat,
Thanks for that. I don't see what is specific to why he uses the same treatment for Lyme as for Malaria, know what I mean? For instance, is it that general a treatment that it encompasses many diseases and pathogens, or are there specific similarities between the two which he chose that treatment for? Does he have any thoughts on the similarities between the two?

Sorry to be a nudge.

My kit came in from Igenex and I am heading over to the lab here today. I'm a bit apprehensive about the outcome as it is going to cost me $1,300. and if this lab screws it up by not following directions, I'm screwed as well.

I called the Labcor head office in my state and was passed to speak to the doctor there. She was very attentive and seemingly impressed with the story of how I have identified Borrellia b., ehrlichia, etc. and after telling here how the lab tested for completely different things, she told me she didn't know how I could speak so calmly about it. Then when I mentioned the word Lyme in a sentence, she said, "wait. did you say, Lyme?" I said, yes...that's what Borrellia burgdorferi IS" and she very nicely got off the phone as quickly as she could. Before going she said I could get a parasite ID test, which, when I asked at the lab they said I couldn't get. What effing IDIOTS we are trusting with our blood and health!!!! These lab people are the first line to identifying an illness....why do they hire effing morons!!!

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Hey Kam,
Thanks for that. I don't see what is specific to why he uses the same treatment for Lyme as for Malaria, know what I mean? For instance, is it that general a treatment that it encompasses many diseases and pathogens, or are there specific similarities between the two which he chose that treatment for? Does he have any thoughts on the similarities between the two?
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Hey Kritts, I guess you meant me? lol
Well, you know what? I think Quensyl is not only used for the above mentioned reasons but also to kill worms...trypanosomas.. I posted that
earlier. Lyme Disease is probably a sort of parasitc infection not only a bacteria. I have seen those "worms" with my own eye. Another reason
why I think parasites are involved is the fact that he'll put me on
Metrodinazole in a few weeks. Metrodinazole is a anti protozoal medication. I think you guys call it Flagyl?

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....Protozoa usually range from 10–50 μm, but can grow up to 1 mm, and are easily seen under a microscope. Protozoa exist throughout aqueous environments and soil, occupying a range of trophic levels. As predators, they prey upon unicellular or filamentous algae, bacteria, and microfungi. Protozoa play a role as both herbivores and consumers in the decomposer link of the food chain. Protozoa also play a vital role in controlling bacteria populations and biomass. Protozoa may absorb food via their cell membranes, some, e.g. amoebas, surround food and engulf it, and yet others have openings or "mouth pores" into which they sweep food. All protozoa digest their food in stomach-likes compartments called vacuoles.[2]
As components of the micro- and meiofauna, protozoa are an important food source for microinvertebrates. Thus, the ecological role of protozoa in the transfer of bacterial and algal production to successive trophic levels is important. Protozoa such as the malaria parasites (Plasmodium spp.), trypanosomes and leishmania are also important as parasites and symbionts of multicellular animals.
Some protozoa have life stages alternating between proliferative stages (e.g. trophozoites) and dormant cysts. As cysts, protozoa can survive harsh conditions, such as exposure to extreme temperatures and harmful chemicals, or long periods without access to nutrients, water, or oxygen for a period of time. Being a cyst enables parasitic species to survive outside of the host, and allows their transmission from one host to another. When protozoa are in the form of trophozoites (Greek, tropho=to nourish), they actively feed and grow. The process by which the protozoa takes its cyst form is called encystation, while the process of transforming back into trophozoite is called excystation.


Protozoa play an important role in nutrient cycling by feeding intensively on bacteria. Notice the size of the speck-like bacteria next to the oval protozoa and large, angular sand particle.


Most protozoa eat bacteria, but one group of amoebae, the vampyrellids, eat fungi. The perfectly round holes drilled through the fungal cell wall, much like the purported puncture marks on the neck of a vampire’s victim, are evidence of the presence of vampyrellid amoebae. The amoebae attach to the surface of fungal hyphae and generate enzymes that eat through the fungal cell wall. The amoeba then sucks dry or engulfs the cytoplasm inside the fungal cell before moving on to its next victim.






THERE you go!! See the relationship to water and Kammy's and mine
aquatic suspect? See the "ball" we have seen in her videos and pics?



Next time I go to see my Lyme doc I'll ask him explicit about this.
See...I'm a "nudge" too...

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Most precious Kritts:
Thanks for the welcome back. I am so remiss in not getting back after posting at times, and that's my bad. I am working on that. But no matter what events tangle my sense of time, I love you for your consistent energy on this forum. And that is also true for you Carla and Kat. So many discoveries now; seeing connections.
Loverya,
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