Interesting Theorie

[Robin]

Hello all,i stumbled across this article while researching articles on scalps.this guy makes alot of sense about fibers amongst other things,although i don't endorse him in any way .another thing i don't get is he never mentions about how contagious this disease is.it does anwer some questions though!

https://home.comcast.net/~morgellons..._Cause_web.htm
best wishes
Robin

[Kritters]

thanks for the article Robin....

It was written by a member of this forum.

Kritters

[carla]

Thanks Robin,
I've learnt so much since I first read that and it makes even more sense to me now .Nutrition plays a massive part in this.
Its our 2manyfibers handywork .Talented, isn't he?
carla
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[aussielee]

Thanks Robin for the link,

Wow 2manyfibres that is fabulous....fantastic work thankyou.
Lee xx

[Robin]

Hi Kritts,Carla,Aussie
I had no idea it was written by 2 many.nice work! how long ago was it written? Don't you guys feel like at least a portion of your scalp is distorted? my entire scalp is! it definitely is some informative work 2many.thanks.
xx
Robin

[carla]

My scalp feels like a ploughed field at times Robin.
Thats the only way I can describe it .
carla
xx

[2manyfibers]

Hey Robin, Carla and Aussielee – thanks for the kind words about my web page. It’s been about a year and a half since I wrote it but I do think it is still very applicable regarding Morgellons. I didn’t comment much on contagion because I wrote it from my own personal perspective of my own condition. I haven’t been around people any more than necessary since I’ve been affected and I don’t think I have exactly the same thing as most people on the forum do so I didn’t feel like I could really comment on how contagious it might be.

The main point of the information in my web page is that the human body is built mostly of 2 specific proteins, collagens and keratins. My thought is that anything that can impact the production of these 2 proteins in the body can cause the symptoms of Morgellons. From my research, I’ve learned that there are many things that can negatively impact the production of these 2 proteins, and anything that does impact them also likely impacts the production of other proteins in the body like hormones and enzymes that are needed to carry out practically every function DNA performs in our bodies. The white blood cells in the body are also proteins of the immune system, so these proteins could be affected making our immune systems less effective than normal. Thus, anything that impacts protein production in our bodies can have a negative impact on physical structures like skin and organs as well as impacting our mental abilities and mood (things like brain fog, depression, anxiety, etc.).

I think what has become known as Morgellons could potentially be directly caused by deficiencies of specific nutrients including some of the B vitamins, vitamins A, C and or D, zinc, magnesium and other nutrients. One thing I think that is worth considering is that there are a number of things that can cause nutrient deficiencies aside from simply not getting enough from the diet. For instance, parasites can rob the body of nutrients (parasites gotta eat too) and they can release toxins in the body that prevents the body from being able to properly use certain nutrients and that also prevent the body from being able to form some proteins correctly. GM foods introduce foreign proteins into our systems that our bodies can’t recognize and can’t use properly (which could also create toxins in our bodies that prevent us from being able to produce certain proteins correctly – in fact, Bt toxin is a genetically created insecticide in some of these products now in the food supply). Also, I think nanotechnology being as small as it is could attach to proteins in our bodies (like enzymes) and this could keep the proteins from forming correctly or from being used properly as well.

The cause of Morgellons remains to be determined but based on all my research and my own experience, I think the result of Morgellons is basically a condition where the proteins normally produced in the body can’t be produced or cannot be produced correctly or as effectively as they are under normal circumstances. The cause could be a lot of different things or combinations of different things, but the result is basically the same – for reasons of deficiency (which can be caused by several things) or reasons of toxins or other things preventing the body from using the nutrients it does have correctly, the body is unable to correctly create the proteins it needs to maintain the skin and the other bodily functions it needs to (like creating hormones and enzymes that effect the brain and organs). Of course I can’t prove this empirically but I do think it makes a lot of sense.

Here’s a link to a diagram of tension lines in the skin of the face – they are bundles of collagen fibers that support the skin and basically keep the skin from sagging or drooping, especially in fleshy areas where there is no underlying bone structure to support it. These tension lines are all over the body and they form in looping, circular patterns for support. I think this diagram might explain some of the “furrows” and “channels” in the scalp and other places. As the bundles of collagen fibers contract or tighten, they create deep lines in the skin wherever they are in the skin. The underlying support for the skin is these networks of collagen fibers so if they contract, the skin “follows” the changes in the collagen bundles. The diagram is from the University of Texas Medical Branch (UTMB). The link is to a pretty large adobe acrobat file so if you have a slow internet connection, it will take a while to load (about 2.7 MB). The whole file is pretty interesting but the tension lines are shown on pages 22 and 23 of the file. Sorry but it won't let me copy them here.

http://www.dt.mahidol.ac.th/departme...face601_47.pdf

I’m glad what I wrote has provided at least a little help for people with Morgellons and maybe has given people a new perspective to consider. I truly appreciate you guys letting me know it was of some value to you.

[carla]

Your welcome Fibers.
And now I know why it hurts my head when I stretch.
xxxxx

[Sadsack]

2manyfibers -
One thing missing in this is why are so many bizarre structures being formed? Is it because dna has been altered and becomes the factory of things that don't belong in the human body? If so, where do these new instructions come from? Although there are symptom variations among us, there are far more similarities than there are differences.
Most notable are the fibers that have been studied by several scientists. Although no conclusions have been drawn, one theme that always emerges is the similarity from one patient to another, regardless of where that person lives.
Any thoughts about this?
SS

[2manyfibers]

Hey Sadsack - I think it is possible that foreign DNA has entered the body through GM foods and agrobacterium (and other means including some nanotech) used for making these genetic modifications could potentially transfer foreign DNA into our bodies. I put some information in the GM foods thread I started about how in many cases the agrobacterium is not “killed” as it is supposed to be before these mutated organisms are released into nature. With “live’ agrobacterium I think it could be quite possible that some genetic material could be unintentionally transferred (one of the articles I linked to in the GM thread noted that some gut bacteria in humans had become mutated from GM foods).

While I think the foreign DNA is a possibility, there are other things that can cause some of these strange “structures” in the body too without mutations to DNA being involved. The skin, flesh and organs of the human body is basically constructed from collagen and keratin fibers, so fibers being embedded in lesions and in unbroken skin could be from these natural proteins in the body. I’ll try to do a separate post soon on the subject, but as I’ve been reading more lately I’ve found that practically ALL parasites produce enzymes that dissolve / digest collagen and keratin. This includes nematodes, fleas, bacteria, fungi, gnats and many others (I’ll provide some references on that in the separate post). Since they parasitize other animals including mammals, these enzymes are what allows them to enter through the skin in some cases and allows them to use the infected animal as a food source (by being able to digest these proteins the body is made from).

In some cases, nematodes and others parasites appear to use keratin from the body to form a protective “covering” over themselves. Apparently this is to prevent the immune system from recognizing it as being foreign or to protect itself in general. Additionally, many nematodes and other parasites are made of collagens and sometimes keratin that is very similar to the collagens and keratins in the human body, so it seems likely to me that it could be difficult for the immune system to recognize these parasites as foreign objects. The link below is to an abstract from the American Journal of Primatology discussing how a nematode was found to build this protective covering of keratin – the abstract was so short I included the whole thing below:

Wiley InterScience :: Session Cookies

ABSTRACT
Necropsy of an adult, wild-born squirrel monkey (Saimiri sciureus) revealed 30 to 40 esophageal nematodes. The anterior end of each nematode was firmly attached to the mucosa, with the remaining portion free in the lumen. Histologic changes were limited to the superficial mucosa, where the epithelium adjacent to the nematode was hyperplastic and increased keratin formed a bridge over the body of the parasite. The nematode was identified as belonging to the genus Spirura. The number of parasites in this animal was considered significant and contributed to the death of the animal.

I can’t find anything to document the mechanics of how the keratin covering is actually formed so I’m not sure if the nematode actually is “smart” enough to form the covering itself or if it is an attempt by the immune system to protect the body from the nematode. The natural reaction of the body to a “wound” is to deposit more keratin and collagen to “knit” the skin and flesh back together so it could just be the body’s natural reaction to “sensing” a wound. A good example of how this works is Retinol A for wrinkles – retinol is a form of vitamin A and is a keratin “promoter”. When it is applied to a wrinkle, the retinol is absorbed into keratin receptors in the skin and the body’s response is to deposit more keratin to the site of what the body senses to be a wound (the retinol “tricks” the body into “thinking” it has a wound and the body responds by placing more keratin at the site in an attempt to “heal” the imaginary wound). The wrinkle is diminished because the extra keratin mechanically lifts the crease of the wrinkle closer to the surface of the skin.

There are nematodes that infect the skin of some mammals so it doesn’t seem that much of a stretch to me that there could be “unidentified” parasites that infect human skin, especially considering that the skin of all mammals is basically made of the same proteins – collagens and keratins. Nematodes (and other parasites like ticks, mosquitoes, fleas, etc.) can also carry bacteria and fungi (that could also dissolve / digest collagens and keratins) that could conceivably play into Morgellons too I think, at least theoretically. The next link is to the Systematic Parasitology Journal and discusses a nematode that infests the skin and hair follicles of platypuses in Australia (it is a brief abstract as well so I posted the entire abstract) – it doesn’t appear that this condition with platypuses was even known until recently (2004) so I’m sure there are likely many “unknown” pathogens and parasites in human afflictions like Morgellons that doctors and researchers simply haven’t discovered yet (like everyone else I do wish they would look a little harder than they seem to):

SpringerLink - Journal Article

The morphology of three nematode taxa found in the skin of the platypus Ornithorhynchus anatinus (Monotremata) in southeastern New South Wales, Australia, is described and illustrated. Fourth-stage larvae belonging to the Rhabditoidea, ?Cylindrocorporidae, occurred primarily in superficial keratin and epidermal layers of the skin and in hair follicles. A nematode recognised by its conspicuous synlophe as a fourth-stage larva of the Trichostrongyloidea, of unknown genus and species but probably belonging to the molineid evolutionary line, was observed in histological section in the hypodermis. A gravid female nematode belonging to the Filarioidea, ?Lemdaninae, occurred in a lymphoid nodule in the hypodermis. O. anatinus is a protected species and these data are presented to draw the attention of parasitologists to skin as an important habitat for nematodes of the platypus.

My thought is that the fibers with Morgellons could be remnants of normal collagen and keratin fibers in the skin where enzymes from any of the parasitic sources mentioned above could have partially dissolved the natural fibers in the skin (type I collagen fibers can be up to 10 feet long in normal skin so I think it may be possible that the enzymes could break some of them up into small pieces as they are dissolved). The keratin fibers are usually considered to be “intermediate filaments” in the skin so they are already much shorter than the collagen fibers but they could be part of the mix as well (and some Morgellons fibers have been identified as cytoskeletal keratin). Dr. Wymore had mentioned this on the OSU website but the information doesn’t appear to be available there any longer. However, I would imagine he got that information from the study done on Morgellons fibers (linked to below) that noted keratin as one of the components identified (Mark Darrah’s work also noted keratin in some of the fiber samples):

Lab Work On Fiber

Based on all this, it seems possible to me that many of the strange “structures” surrounding Morgellons could be a result of somewhat natural reactions by the body – something foreign in the body causes the destruction of the collagens and keratins that are major components of human tissue and the results include things like “non” or “slow”-healing lesions and possibly fiber fragments of these proteins. As the body tries to repair these things they may not be able to use the keratins and collagens as normal because of specific nutrient deficiencies (which can be caused by parasites) or possibly the presence of these collagen / keratin dissolving enzymes (the proteins can’t form as normal because of the enzymes). Also, these parasites can release toxins that could cause some of the other neurological symptoms of Morgellons such as brain fog, mood swings and the like. Of course I’m not a doctor and I have no means of verifying this personally so it is just somewhat educated speculation on my part. But I do think it makes pretty good sense that many of the strange symptoms could result from the actions of parasites affecting the basic proteins the body is constructed from.