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Old June 3rd, 2008, 09:59 PM
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Does anyone have links to research done on the enzymes added to laundry detergents? How made, how distributed and whether skin symptoms have occurred?

It appears every product on the store shelves has enzymes added. It is impossible to find plain, old laundry soap, like LUX or Ivory Snow.
I am considering making my own from some recipes on the Net.

My concern is that the enzymes are grown up from mixtures of soil organisms including bacteria, fungi, etc. It appears to me that the spores of these organisms can survive the enzyme processing and the wash cycle to end up embeded in the fibers of clothing and laundry.

I am wondering if the many Morgellons skin symptoms can be the result of soil organism infections due to contaminated laundry.
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Old June 3rd, 2008, 10:36 PM
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I went to FAQ on Proctor and Gambol Ivory Snow site.
Ivory Snow soap flakes for laundry was discontinued in 1978.
(Currently have an Ivory Snow "detergent".)

My earliest date found for adding enzymes to laundry detergents is 1979.
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Old June 3rd, 2008, 11:28 PM
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Here is some interesting info. from a British enzyme firm.
I think when detergents were first marketed, phosphates were needed to establish cleaning power. Then it was found phosphates contaminated water with algal blooms and had to be discontinued. I think that's when enzymes entered the picture.
I want to go back to good old soap.

try ecover.com
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Old June 4th, 2008, 03:03 AM
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Hi Virginia and WELCOME!

You are going to make me finally look in to laundry detergents! I started using "Seventh Generation" products about 9 months ago. My clothes stopped biting me.

But Marc Neumann (sp?, sorry Marc), creator of DSP cream e-mailed me a message a while ago mentioning something about laundry detergent and I blew it off at the time. ooops on my part. I'll try to figure out what he was warning me about and pass on what I find...or Jo may already have the info at her fingertips! I hope, (Jo you are a )

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Old June 4th, 2008, 08:54 AM
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Welcome Virginia!!

I'm aware of laundry detergents causing allergic skin reactions, often caused by using the biological powders - they are the ones with enzymes in. Phosphates do other jobs. Personally, I don't believe they are implicated directly in Morgellons.

Its best for Morgies to stick to non-bio products - you want to find a product with oxygen based bleaching. E-cover is 100% percarbonate (soda and hydrogen peroxide). Most non-bios will have some % of this stuff.

Also, a cup of salt is a winner. Especially if you can find dishwashing salt as its nearly 100% sodium chloride. Marc reckons the morg fibers dont like it - I agree! I think the Borax helps kill the fungal elements of morgs. Its another good addition for sure.

This might be helpful - it explains the components of laundry detergents and what they do:

http://www.ukcpi.org/educ/documents/...sFactSheet.pdf

Marc's launching some new products shortly - I really think they could help us mucho.

All good stuff,

Jo xxx

ps - I think a clothes dryer is an important asset in the battle, also cutting down on the sets of clothes we wear.
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Thank you for the information and welcomes

One recipe for laundry soap I found was mixing shavings of simple hand soap like Ivory Snow (4 cakes for $1 at Dollar Tree) with Borax and washing soda. If I can find the washing soda this might be what I will do.

Even the fancy detergents on the shelf at the market, had 'enzymes'. I think detergents really don't work that well.

I was talking with a non-Morg friend yesterday about my enzyme theory. She said about 10 years ago she had a horrible skin outbreak, back, legs, etc.
Changed detergents, got better. She had never and doesn't seem to currently have any perfume or environmental allergies.

I am wondering if different enzyme mixes, at different times were marketed to different parts of the country. Since Fla., Texas and Calif. started out with the highest Morg incidents, I wonder if they were test cases?
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Old June 4th, 2008, 03:10 PM
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What I am trying to stress here, is that the laundry detergent enzymes are not causing an "Allergy".
I am theorizing that they are causing literal 'skin infections' due to the hardy fungal and bacterial spores that are carried through the processing and wash cycle.
Thanks.

(I think too may things are brushed off as "allergies", like blaming the victim attitude) Thanks.
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