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Old June 15th, 2008, 12:35 PM
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Old June 17th, 2008, 12:29 AM
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Thanks everyone for the kind words. Hopefully this will address the recent questions that were asked.

Virginia – I would suspect that agrobacterium has been used in the creation of detergent enzymes because most of the manufacturers of these enzymes seem proud that they have used GMOs to create the enzymes (which kind of implies that agrobacterium has been used). Of course they also assure us that only the pure, wholesome goodness of the desired end product is contained in the actual enzymes. Although I don’t think detergent enzymes would be a ‘root” cause of Morgellons, I would imagine they could potentially be an added irritant in Morgellons cases (I think what has become known as Morgellons is systemic in nature and likely involves a combination of things - the skin problems are a big part though). Here’s a link to a manufacturer that seems proud they use GMOs for this:

Novozymes - Detergent enzymes

Kritts – of course I've noted your opinions on parasites and thanks for the kind words. These scientists (and I use the term loosely) are truly playing with something they have no real understanding of as far as the overall ramifications and impacts on humans of the monstrosities they are creating be it with nematodes, bacteria, viruses or anything else. Even worse, they truly don’t appear to have any concern of the consequences of their carelessness and ignorance as long as they can make lots of money. And doctors are so far behind the learning curve on these new, genetic “cans of worms” (no pun intended, or maybe it is), I think they truly have no idea of the possible problems people are dealing with medically now because of these vain attempts by ignorant scientists (that don’t realize how ignorant they are) to pretend they are God. NOBODY really knows the true impact of all this genetic experimentation, but anybody with a functioning brain cell knows that much if not most of it likely isn’t a good thing in the overall scheme of things.

Hilly – here are a few links that note that nematodes are becoming resistant to ivermectin and that some apparently already are resistant to ivermectin and other drugs like albendazole. Although scientists are basically unsure as to why they are becoming resistant, some believe that it is simply exposure to ivermectin from animal treatments that is creating this resistance. Others think that some nematodes have a genetic mutation that makes them resistant (one of the links below notes that some nematodes that are supposedly the same species have this genetic mutation while others don’t – which makes me wonder if they actually are the same species ……. the mutation might indicate that they aren’t the same species it seems to me). But, whatever the reasons, the fact is that parasites are getting harder to kill with the treatments available today. The articles generally discuss treatments on animals, but I’m quite sure that the same principles would apply to humans:

Ivermectin resistance in nematodes may be caused b...[Mol Biochem Parasitol. 1998] - PubMed Result

River Blindness Parasite Becoming Resistant To Standard Treatment

First documentation of in vivo and in vitro iverme...[Clin Infect Dis. 2004] - PubMed Result

IVERMECTIN RESISTANCE IN STRONGYLES OF SHEEP IN OYO STATE NIGERIA USING A LARVAL DEVELOPMENT ASSAY

Here’s an excerpt from the link directly above: Resistance to anthelmintics in a range of sheep gastrointestinal helminths has been reported from several countries (4). Resistance has been reported most frequently in Haemonchus contortus and it can involve benzimidazole, salicynilides, levamizole, morantel and ivermectin. In Europe, resistance in sheep nematodes has been reported from several countries including France (5). Ivermectin resistant Haemonchus contortus in Louisiana lambs in U.S.A. (6), and benzimidazole resistant to stronglyes of sheep in Nigeria (7) have been reported.

Here’s a couple of links noting resistance to albendazole:

Doramectin and albendazole resistance in sheep in The Netherlands

Increase in anthelmintic resistance.

Scientists are supposedly working on new ways to kill them though, so keep a stiff upper lip as Sir Winston used to say (never figured that one out - seems like a stiff upper lip would be painful).

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Old August 13th, 2008, 08:39 AM
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Front page article in today's Daily Telegraph.




'The mass development of genetically modified crops risks causing the world's worst environmental disaster, The Prince of Wales has warned.


The Prince of Wales speaks out
In his most outspoken intervention on the issue of GM food, the Prince said that multi-national companies were conducting an experiment with nature which had gone "seriously wrong".

The Prince, in an exclusive interview with the Daily Telegraph, also expressed the fear that food would run out because of the damage being wreaked on the earth's soil by scientists' research.

He accused firms of conducting a "gigantic experiment I think with nature and the whole of humanity which has gone seriously wrong".

"Why else are we facing all these challenges, climate change and everything?".

The Prince of Wales: 'If that is the future, count me out'
Relying on "gigantic corporations" for food, he said, would result in "absolute disaster".

"That would be the absolute destruction of everything... and the classic way of ensuring there is no food in the future," he said.

"What we should be talking about is food security not food production - that is what matters and that is what people will not understand.

"And if they think its somehow going to work because they are going to have one form of clever genetic engineering after another then again count me out, because that will be guaranteed to cause the biggest disaster environmentally of all time."

Small farmers, in particular, would be the victims of "gigantic corporations" taking over the mass production of food.

"I think it's heading for real disaster," he said.

"If they think this is the way to go....we [will] end up with millions of small farmers all over the world being driven off their land into unsustainable, unmanageable, degraded and dysfunctional conurbations of unmentionable awfulness."

The Prince of Wales's forthright comments will reopen the whole debate about GM food.

They will put him on a collision course with the international scientific community and Downing Street - which has allowed 54 GM crop trials in Britain since 2000.

His intervention comes at a critical time. There is intense pressure for more GM products, not fewer, because of soaring food costs and widespread shortages.

Many scientists believe GM research is the only way to guarantee food for the world's growing population as the planet is affected by climate change.

They will be dismayed by such a high profile and controversial contribution from the Prince of Wales at such a sensitive time.

The Prince will be braced for the biggest outpouring of criticism from scientists since he accused genetic engineers of taking us into "realms that belong to God and God alone" in an article in the Daily Telegraph in 1998.

In the interview the Prince, who has an organic farm on his Highgrove estate, held out the hope of the British agricultural system encouraging more and more family run co-operative farms.

When challenged over whether he was trying to turn back the clock, he said: "I think not. I'm terribly sorry. It's not going backwards. It is actually recognising that we are with nature, not against it. We have gone working against nature for too long."

The Prince of Wales cited the widespread environmental damage in India caused by the rush to mass produce GM food.

"Look at India's Green Revolution. It worked for a short time but now the price is being paid.

"I have been to the Punjab where you have seen the disasters that have taken place as result of the over demand on irrigation because of the hybrid seeds and grains that have been produced which demand huge amounts of water.

"[The] water table has disappeared. They have huge problems with water level, with pesticide problems, and complications which are now coming home to roost.

"Look at western Australia. Huge salinisation problems. I have been there. Seen it. Some of the excessive approaches to modern forms of agriculture."

He said that the scientists were putting too much pressure on nature.

"If you are not working with natural assistance you cause untold problems. which become very expensive and very difficult to undo.

It places impossible burdens on nature and leads to accumulating problems which become more difficult to sort out."

In a keynote speech last year the Prince of Wales warned that the world faces a series of natural disasters within 18 months unless a £15 billion action plan is agreed to save the world's rain forests.

He has set up his own rain forest project with 15 of the world's largest companies, environmental and economic experts, to try to find ways to stop their destruction.

Only two weeks ago British GM researchers lobbied ministers for their crops to be kept in high-security facilities or in fields at secret locations across the country to prevent them from being attacked and destroyed.

They spoke out after protesters ripped up crops in one of only two GM trials to be approved in Britain this year.

Scientists claim the repeated attacks on their trials are stifling vital research to evaluate whether GM crops can reduce the cost and environmental impact of farming and whether they will grow better in harsh environments where droughts have devastated harvests.'


Do you think it would be a good idea to write to him and tell him about Morgellons ??

Hilly x

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Thanks for that Hilly. I see him in a different light now!!

54 GM trials since 2000 - found that interesting cuz I visited a farm experiment in 1994 in Bristol, growing GM rape seed.

Great that he's doing that rainforest project. GO CHARLIE GO!!!

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That is an excellent article Hilly and
thank you for posting.

I can't understand why others don't
see it???

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I do think it is worth writing to him Hilly.
Can you get an address or the e-mail of his secretary. I tend not to mix with the Royals these days.

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Thanks for that very encouraging article, Hills! Wow the Prince is aces in my book right now! What courage it had to take for him to speak out that way. I would only dream that the US would follow suit, but alas....they've sold their soul to the freaking devil. At least it will raise the ire and more US citizens will become aware.

Great idea about contacting him, Carls. I was thinking the same thing.

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Hi all,

Carla, I'm sorry you have'nt seen him recently, lost touch myself actually, but I'm sure that can be put right !!! lol.

Seriously though, I will try to get some sensible facts together and write to him. Can't lose really and might well gain. I think he would be very sympathetic. Certainly worth a go. Will let you all know if (when) I get reply. Hilly xxx
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Good Luck Hilly. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
He has gone right up in my estimate .An unlikely Hero.
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Carla, sorry your treatment steps is closed... but it's brilliant... well done for all your hard work.... It's a lifeline to all of us.

Working on my letter... have sent you draft... any tips or help from anyone would be great. Hilly xx
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