Reported Morgellons to MUFON for investigation

[NotInfectedYet]

This is my first post and I hope it doesn't go over like a lead balloon. I'm really glad to be here after finding the Morgellons Foundation quite by accident! Hello to you all!

Getting to the point of this topic, upon reading about Morgellons, for some reason my immediate concern was if this is a biological pathogen of extra-terrestrial origin.

Before getting to the point, this paragraph contains some background that explains why I'm willing to consider this admittedly bazaar theory that Morgellons might be of extra-terrestrial origin. I even filed a report with MUFON as a lifetime member of the Mutual UFO Network. Why I joined MUFON is irrelevant to this topic. Suffice to say I'm also a layman when it comes to science so please bear with me. I enjoy good science fiction which may not help my credibility, admittedly, but I wish to disclose this fact. A year or so ago, I was reading about theories on meteorites bringing ancient life to Earth. I read somewhere about a theory that biological life might travel inside meteorites. Forms of fungus on Earth remain dormant for thousands of years as dry spores. Forms of plant life can live near volcanic vents at unbelievable temperatures. The theory goes that forms of life that don't even fit our current profile of 'life' could travel in the middle of meteories, perhaps as ejecta from the collision of an asteroid with a distant world, sheltered inside a cavity in the middle of the meteorite from temperatures at the meteorite's surface as it enters Earth's atmosphere, and exposed to the terrestrial environment when the meteorite hits the ground and breaks into shrapnel.

I recently decided to bring Morgellons to MUFON's attention for possible investigation. I received a brief reply from a MUFON investigator thanking me for the report and indicating this may help in another investigation.

Perhaps my purpose of posting is that if anyone feels they can provide MUFON with information to help them investigate Morgellons as having possible extra-terrestrial origins, might I suggest contacting MUFON investigators. You can obtain their email from MUFON's web site at http://www.mufon.com/ where there is also a message board. I feel awkward about protocol and so I don't want to give out the name or email address of the investigator who contacted me, but I did use the email address at the MUFON web site for the initial contact. Anyone can do the same!

Thank you for listening and I'm glad to be here!

[ladycolorado]

yw. there are TONS of people in here more than eager to send you OR your site specimens, photo video etc. i am not one (i serve a different purpose in here) but welcome and yes this a theory(one of many) from some about how morgellons could have gotten here. it is indeed an "et" disease in some ways, it is just that bizarre and weird. personally i have always been fascinated with astronomy and the physics of space and the universe itself. i believe time is relative not seqential . (LC).

[NotInfectedYet]

Thanks for your reply. Years ago I became interested in ET life in various forms (intelligent and unintelligent, the difference between these two extremes hotly debated). The movie 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers' took a pathogen similar to Morgellons and spun it into a sci-fi 'what if?' scenario to the extreme.

After I saw this movie, it stimulated my thoughts about what constitutes terrestrial versus extra-terrestrial life? I started to think how life from another world like Mars could be as simple as a benign fungus that actually cures cancer, or as carnivorous as a flesh eating virus we hear about infecting someone who gets a simple knee scrape... maybe both? Also, what constitutes 'intelligence' in a life form? Ants and bees are 'intelligent' as a COLLECTIVE organization of millions of creatures. Why couldn't billions of bacterium, fungi or viruses work collectively as an intelligent cooperative? The human body is in essence a 'cooperative' of billions of cells each with the same DNA. I always wondered if Invasion's fundamental premise that microscopic organisms could work in tandem to in essence 'clone' organisms (such as human life) to short-cut the evolutionary process that took millions of years for said cloned life -- through trial and error -- to flourish in an eco-system such as Earth, was indeed a valid path of scientific concern?

If this premise is true then Morgellons is a long-term threat that is using humans as hosts in what could amount to an evolutionary end run in making Earth its new home. Imagine sharing human consciousness with another intelligence? This could work in our favor or not and is not necessarily a bad thing. What is a bad thing is the symptoms of Morgellons. If the source of infection is capable of integrating into our DNA without damaging repercussions, and humans adapt without harmful side-effects seen in this disease, then I would think Morgellons could become similar to the millions of other 'hitchhikers' that have become a cooperative part of the human body over the millennia. We don't kill off friendly organisms, i.e. in our stomachs that aid digestion. However, those organisms do not cause dibilitating side-effects and would not have integrated with humans if they did not benefit their hosts.

The reemergence of this 1980 sci-fi thriller in the upcoming release of 'Invasion' triggered some more troubling concerns that perhaps festered in my subconscious all these years, and lead to some personal research that lead me down this path of inquiry.

[ladycolorado]

well weird disease indeed. you can learn much in here. if you have in your society any scientists biologists folks would like this stuff looked at all kinds of stuff to look at, (LC).

[Elbom]

Welcome NotInfectedYet
Your suggestion that this affliction could be in some way be linked to extra-terristrial life is an initeresting one. The almost "guenius" of this thing in it's ability to deceive the host and to manifest in so many bizzare ways could be the basis of a hollywood block-buster .
This coupled with the "Ostridge" syndrome of many of the leading scientists of the world on the other hand (my experience), who it would seem have had their heads forcibly, yet subtlely and unconsioncely buried in sand, equally by an apparant universal "gunius". Or who's high levels of respected competence and creative understanding, has been directed towards radical conspiratorial theories or alien-invasion theories. Please do not misunderstand me, I too am a technologist and scientist and I do understand how easy it is to get fixated on a thread of scientific analysis and discovery, which slants the pattern of thought in a chosen direction of scientific endeavour. It is almost as though many respected scientists have been blinkered, whereas we know them to usually be of vastly broader vision.
This phenomenan within the scientific community is just as bizzare and begs the question.....is the same "external" influence involved in supressing the scientific endeavour?
The situation seems to be following a very similar pattern as that which was the case with HIV/Aids. There are many parallels to be drawn. In fact HIV was, at one stage, also referred to as DOP by leading scientists.
Have we learned nothing as a scientific community from our historic record on the resolution of human afflcition?
Has it become more about bolstering personal scientific power-platforms and scientific community pat-each-others-back? Or is it more to do about the race for the money to be made? All this at the expense of humankind.
What is different in the parallels here, is that many of the scientists involved in research actually have the affliction known as Morgellons" and yet even they would seem to ignore the many reported indications and contra-indications and go off on a blinkered tack.
I certainly have found that many of the non-scientifically-qualified sufferers have picked up the scientific universal threads and they are shouting the obvious to the formal scientific community. When exactly the leaders of our sciences will actually find the humility and egotistical graciousness, to venture off their secure pedestals and to begin to broaden their vision, the progress toward the resolution of this affliction will be rapid and tangible.

I certainly do not subscribe to extraterrestrial "ET" theories or indeed to human/animal/plant experimentation gone wrong theories. Nor do I subscribe to bio-defense experiments gone wrong theories.
What I do understand is that the mechanisms associated with this affliction have been around on this planet for a very long time and have been activated in some way perhaps by a result of human endeavour or misadventure or perhaps by universal advanture...
I am firmly of the belief that the resolution and understanding of this affliction (Morgellons) in it's comprehensive form, will be the key to solving many of the as-yet un-resolved human afflictions such as HIV/Aids, Parkinsons etc etc..
There is a great deal of money to be lost in the finding of solutions to issues such as HIV/Aids and there is a very significant direction of negative universal conscious and sub-conscious energy, resisting these solutions. If you call it extra-terrestial intervention, in your interpretation then this fits within your terms of reference perhaps.

There is no rocket science involved here and what we have on our planet in regard to these afflictions have been with us in their various forms and developmental stages for a verfy long time. We cannot blame our incompetence or ignorance on a bunch of ill-intended life-forms from far afield.

As a "lay" person who is significantly well qualified and experienced in the technical sciences and the life sciences. Who has intensely and purposefully prodded the affliction known as Morgellons on many levels. As a person who was HIV positive and who developed full blown Aids. As a person who turned all of this around when he dramatically rid himself of Morgellons, I feel qualified to talk on this subject. I know a great deal about what drives this thing called Morgellons and although significantly ppowerful, it is not extra-terrestrial.
It is a complex whole system, yet simple it it's individual co-dependent mechanisms. It is indeed powerful and it is indeed almost genius in its operational capacity but all of the mechanisims making up this thing called
"morgellons" are from this planet.

Regards from South Africa
lance

[NotInfectedYet]

I didn't even consider that Morgellons could be the next 'AIDS' of the 21st century. Interesting thoughts.

As someone who has survived and self cured himself of full-blown AIDS and Morgellons you reinforce my belief that some people on this planet are like biological Rosetta stones. Their DNA may hold the possible key to cures for these diseases. I don't know your personal beliefs regarding allowing researchers to study your blood and DNA for clues to a possible cure for AIDS and Morgellons, but it seems you could have within you the gift of immunity against two powerful pathogens and the key to unlocking immunity against these diseases in humans.

Thanks again for sharing your perspective and reasons why you think Morgellons is of terrestrial origins. I think you may be right, at least I hope so! Pathogens that can survive entry into our atmosphere are highly speculative at this point in time but the popularity of movies like the new 'Invasion' prove they make interesting 'what if' scenarios and great food for fertile imaginations.

[Elbom]

Hello notinfectedyet....
Your comments and open-minded maturity do you justice. To answer your question, yes, I have very carefully followed a medically documented program in regard to the HIV/Aids issue. I have just over one month to run before I have the final of four successive full medical test programs in order to complete the supporting clinical records for the publication of my case study. I have just given legal permission for my name and details to be made public etc.
What I wish to stress very clearly in all of this is that when I acquired Morgellons, I knew that I was HIV positive and I was quite happy with this. I actually consider HIV as one of the greatest gifts which the universe coould have given me because of the incredible creativity and broadness of vision etc which it unlocked in me.
I targeted this unwelcome guest which I had and which I only late in the struggle, found out was called Morgellons. After a fascinating but momentous struggle I rid myself of this thing callled Morgellons at great physical cost. I was absolutely shocked and astounded to find that HIV followed it out. My target was not to get rid of HIV/Aids. Getting rid of HIV/Aids was a consequence of getting rid of Morgellons. They are closely linked and I have concentrated greatly on this aspect of late. Is this one of the back doors which the universe is opening to provide the answers? Aids is not meant to be.........
I will gladly share what is needed of me once I have the basis of solid clinical case record from which to speak...
Watch this space buddy.......and follow Steve's Bryozoan thread....this is the Morgellons trigger!
Regards

Lance

[tcmgpt13]

One question, did you decide the trigger was bryozoa before or after joining this board? When I first found your posts here I looked up what I could find on google about your postings on other sites. No mention was ever made of bryozoa by you in postings I located on other sites which had earlier dates than your arrival here at MDR. It appears that the connection to bryozoa was made after you arrived here, decidedly after you claimed elsewhere you understood exactly what morgellons is. Apparently that assessment was bryozoaless at that time (at least from what I could find, which even included your nom de plume, lance marshall). Am I overlooking something here?

[Elbom]

Hello TCM
Your observation is correct. I have a very good handle on the mechanics and the dynamics of it but I never had the scientific means (or indeed terminology) of indentification. I have followed various theories carefully looking to find what most closely defined what I had observed and experienced. What I saw safrey pull together in his Bryozoan hypothesis was the closest that I have seen to what I have understood, observed and documented concerning this affliction. I have communicated with the likes of Cliff Mickelson but I have only recently taken to posting stuff when I see a credible thread. I did pick up on the Bryozoan hypothesis and I do have enough credible synergistic experience to know that this hypothesis is a key component.
I do not post extensively, although I have recently taken to begin picking up on threads where I see applicability.
Regards
Lance

[Elbom]

By the way TCM, my name is Lance Marshall (not a "nom de plume"). No reason to hide behind screens and I do not amuse myself with posting for entertainment value. Life is too short to play games and as you may see from the real recent photograph of me, I am way past the age of indifference.
have a good one.
Lance