I think tcm may have tapped a theory worth looking into...

[Verbal]

Perhaps the parasites can be found in every person. They're just getting a little out of control. Too many of them attracted by heavy metals or perhaps some other environmental addition we've created. That's probably why there are so many different symptoms and signs and lack of cohesive culprit. There are tons of culprits. just depends on what you're being poisoned with. It could be anything. Something you eat regularly, something at your work, in your house, ... your water pipes? the actual water? much like to asbestos issue - who knows? but there are some toxins that are more common than others based on our similar experiences. red and blue fibers? they probably are from clothes. thats probably how they've adapted to exist. passed around in the fibers of our clothing - it would be very difficult to detect them - especially if they had no noticible detrimental effect on us. Now if whatever is poisoning you happens to be their favorite food, well... or if that poison /toxin, whatever, happens to weaken a portion of your immune system, then whatever parasite is fit to take advantage of that weakness is attracted and shows up, or even just becomes more plentiful. they've been here the whole time, they're just getting too numerous and thus causing a problem. hmmm .... for our billboard: "DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR TOXIN IS?" i think my primary one is copper. now to eliminate it... and then we'll see... or maybe we cant find the culprits because it is actually our own immune system reacting to the toxin overload. Which could be why many of the 'parasites' appear to mimick our immune system. Because it is our immune system, just under terrific strain and sick from the toxin problem.

[Verbal]

well, after battling for the last hour or two, i say the nay. this is not my immune system sick or healthy. there are a few lil mofos running around inside me at least. Caught one of the little speedy bumbs today and fizzled his shizzle up! ...And the war wages on...

[Steve Frey]

"DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR TOXIN IS?" i think my primary one is copper.

Hey Verbal, If I'm correct with my claim that the bryozoan is the causative agent here, which I assure you I am, then copper is not your enemy, it is your allie. Laboratory studies have shown that of numerous heavy metals tested for toxicity to aquatic life, copper was the most toxic to the bryozoan, moreso than to any other fish or invertebrate species. My personal studies regarding the effectiveness of copper in fighting morgellons is still ongoing but initial results are promising. For about the past two months I've refrained from taking any remedies whatsoever in order to regress back to more noticable symptoms, then I will resumn the copper supplement and note the improvement of my condition. I spoke with my associate today, William the Great, who originally brought the copper idea to my attention, and he feels that copper is most definantly reducing the severity of his condition.

It could be anything. Something you eat regularly, something at your work, in your house, ... your water pipes? the actual water? much like to asbestos issue - who knows? but there are some toxins that are more common than others based on our similar experiences.

I have to agree with you that our environment, our food, our medications, they are very likely playing a large role in this issue simply because of the increased levels of chemicals in our lives. We are having a hard time combating morgellons with drugs and other chemicals for the same reason it is hard to combat the bryozoan's fouling of waterways and ships, because most toxic chemicals are part of their diet rather than being something that kills them.

[tcmgpt13]

Hi Verbal,

I agree with you that the morgellons symptoms do not just reside in the immune system. There are parasites (yet unidentified by the medical world) behind them. My only intention in mentioning heavy metals was to say that if it is present in the body in large amounts (and nearly everyone has heavy metal toxicity in today's world due to exposure in so many areas, not just mercury fillings) then it may be contributing factor in at least some people, encouraging the little fellas to set up housekeeping and thrive because they like eating the heavy metal. One of the jobs of parasites is to clean up putrid matter in whatever organism it is found. This is why I feel that detoxing heavy metals may improve the parasite load by encouraging them to leave as the food source (partial food source anyway) dries up. I say this from personal experience. Using a foot detox machine to detox heavy metals has helped me greatly. So has sweating in a far infrared sauna.

Since you posted twice under different thread names with the same post I thought I would add my response to you on the other thread here as well, just in case folks would like to look into some of the web pages which treat the issues of heavy metal and health. I do not think heavy metals cause morgellons, but I do think they are a contributing factor in almost everyone.

Originally Posted by tcmgpt13

Yes, Verbal, I really do think that parasites get out of bounds in the body, maybe after being in the body for years, but it may not have been the morgellons critter which was always a part of that. I do feel that morgellons critters and exposure to them may be the trigger which lets them all out of the bottle so to speak, that evil genie which unleashes them all with such devastating force. I got so sick from eating fish, and yet at times I think that the crystal like things may have been inside for some years. My eyes always used to itch and I believe I had eye seeds beyond the normal morning "sand" we all get. So...and I know I got sicker and colder with every new mercury filling over the years (now all removed, but then the morgellons started six months later, upon completion).

This is why I proposed that heavy metals toxic loads may be a contributing factor for contracting parasites in the industrial world. How much lead we all have in our bones for starters. It is claimed the the level of lead in bones is five hundred times greater today than it was in the past. This means all of us, not just some of us. This metal is even found in the Artic and Antartic areas. I also feel that there is probably a genetic suseptiblity to getting morgellons, or maybe those who remain well are fortunate enough not to eat it or get bitten by an insect who has it. This remains to be seen, as so far there is no scientific data on how what it is, much less how it it contracted in the body. The following articles are from the Townsend Letter for Doctors and Patients:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...ov/ai_93736443

http://www.townsendletter.com/July20...tion2_0707.htm

Detoxing heavy metal has affected my symptoms directly, such as I could at times feel them come out around my lips when using the foot detox, not to mention the various critters which exited my feet. Detoxing is probably not the whole answer to wellness, but I feel it is a stongly important part to getting well.

Also for those who missed this post on mercury and the danger there of, especially as combined with other metals I repost this thread which has a pretty interesting video (short) on this subject):

http://www.morgellons-disease-resear...12039#msg12039

[Verbal]

oops, fixed it... ???

[ladycolorado]

hi verbal i've MISSED YOU . yep, you guesed it, most everything is contaminated on one level or aother. i initially did not get disaease from specks or fibers alone. headlice final nail in coffin. second generation nuclear exposure, metyl ethyl keytone exposure. exposure to VERY toxic water, horn lake ms. (pink mold laden undrinkable even after boiling). metal exposure? well used to PLAY with mercury as a kid. . of course, 20 BILLION OTHER POSSIBLE THINGS, TO NAME A FEW. immune systems weak in many, but the stronger ones i think also a case OF IMMUNE SURVEILLANCE. THE IMMUNE SYSTEM DOES NOT SEE THIS STUFF IT SLOWLY BUILDS UP, AND WHAMMO, THE WALLS COME TUMBLING DOWN! it hides in our cells. every time a red bloodcell dies, this crap hatches out of the cell. the macrophages, or large white bloodcells dwindle in number. morgellons disease finds any weakness it finds and exploits it. why such a pain in the rear. . morgellons disease also loves co-infections, and brings them along for the ride! . the best way to have some peace? BOLSTER the immune system, take probiotics (like acidophilus in yogurt). to have good germs fight the bad germs better. yes, each of our stories is different. you have hit the nail on the head of WHY ??? (LC).

[MELISSAJ]

All I can say is that I blamed everything except my own system until I realized that no one else was affected. I do notice that many who come into my apt get bites on their arms....what is that all about....airborne?

My dad's farm had something, but I have had what I thought was broken mirror glass coming out of my face on and off for years (1-2xs/year) I went to the hospital in 1992 when a 1/4 inch mirror fell on top of me and I was ripped up. I was "fine" after that and they sent me home. I never thought about parasites or germs.

My system has been battling for awhile and the nonresponsive to meds bipolar tendencies that I battled here and there for years was just the bacteria getting the best of me. I used to work 80 hour audits /week during y/e wrap ups.

I was just told that my "mono" in 9th grade which took me out of school for 3 months was probably the Lymes.

It's us and the parasites, but healthy people are fine. They don't get sick. My kids are fine overall. They never miss school and have lots of energy. The 7 y/o has some adhd /pddnos attributes, but the removal of wheat after the CA office determined he was a Celiac patient has made a huge difference.

The boys are not on RX and I want your opinion. They received the disease in vitro. What's your opinion?

M

[ladycolorado]

Originally Posted by MELISSAJ

All I can say is that I blamed everything except my own system until I realized that no one else was affected. I do notice that many who come into my apt get bites on their arms....what is that all about....airborne?

My dad's farm had something, but I have had what I thought was broken mirror glass coming out of my face on and off for years (1-2xs/year) I went to the hospital in 1992 when a 1/4 inch mirror fell on top of me and I was ripped up. I was "fine" after that and they sent me home. I never thought about parasites or germs.

My system has been battling for awhile and the nonresponsive to meds bipolar tendencies that I battled here and there for years was just the bacteria getting the best of me. I used to work 80 hour audits /week during y/e wrap ups.

I was just told that my "mono" in 9th grade which took me out of school for 3 months was probably the Lymes.

It's us and the parasites, but healthy people are fine. They don't get sick. My kids are fine overall. They never miss school and have lots of energy. The 7 y/o has some adhd /pddnos attributes, but the removal of wheat after the CA office determined he was a Celiac patient has made a huge difference.

The boys are not on RX and I want your opinion. They received the disease in vitro. What's your opinion?

M

WHEN READ MY PM SENT INFO, take them too bounce back quicker and just to be safe if able. (LC).

[ladycolorado]

MELISSA, I WANT TO ADD I WILL NEED PM ASAP FOR I TO GIVE MORE ACCURATE SUPPORT FIGURE OUT WHAT WORKING FOR YOU BEST , SO I HAVE BEST IDEA HOW TO HELP YOU, (LC).