Morgellons is us? Why it may be hard to get rid of, just as is malaria?

[tcmgpt13]

Please read this article all you science buffs and see what you think.

http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/dacks.html

Is this the reason why malaria, lyme, perhaps morgellons, West Nile etc. are able to hide in the body? Because there is an ancient connection in our development so that it can blend in perfectly as a parsite or disease organism?

In a similar vein this article is also interesting (I posted this article on another thread, but am linking the two here as they reinforce each other--sorry early readers of this post I somehow posted the same reference twice and so have now corrected that mistake):

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...i?artid=138874

I wonder if DNA similar to human DNA helps these critters to hide in human bodies? It certainly is interesting to think about it all.

So, if lipid science research pans out, there may be treatment for some of this problem called morgellons. Even if the morgellons parasite is different in structure to these guys it may exist in symbiotic relationship with lyme. If lyme can be cured through lipid treatment the morgellons parasite might dry up from this alone. Well, let us pray it is something which works in the trials being conducted on lipid therapy.

[michelle]

More great information to think about tcmg
I have been wondering along the lines if man as human is adapting to a future way of life.
If all is adapting and evolving as Darwin has suggested could this not explain are unexplainable manifestations.
We have altered almost everything we come in contact with. There has to be repercussions
Michelle

[cd3girls]

Malaria is treatable! ...............and I am beginning to believe Morgellon's is as well. And ironically, maybe with the same meds.

I have already posted my results with the drug Plaquenil in a separate thread. This drug is the "treatment of choice" for malaria (as both a preventative RX, and also at higher doses to treat the onset of active Malaria). I was given the drug for discoid lupus. This diagnosis indicates that systemic lupus is not present, but the skin (being the largest organ in the body) appears to be affected.

Bottom line - I am looking for feedback from anyone else who has received this treatment. I am having amazing results - and can only recommend that folks try to get their DR to prescribe this Rx if you can. I have had Morg's for 7 looooooong years - so I am right there with the rest of you. I am shocked by the lack of response to my posting re: the drug (besides Carla). But, when I initially recommended garlic pills on this site (months ago now), - it took a while to "catch fire" with the group. Now - garlic is listed as one of the "treatment steps".

I am only trying to help .

[lindalu]

cd, Oh, trust me, it was made note of! I have an appt with an LLD on Thursday and I am just waiting to see.
Linda

[tcmgpt13]

Originally Posted by cd3girls

Malaria is treatable! ...............and I am beginning to believe Morgellon's is as well. And ironically, maybe with the same meds.

I have already posted my results with the drug Plaquenil in a separate thread. This drug is the "treatment of choice" for malaria (as both a preventative RX, and also at higher doses to treat the onset of active Malaria). I was given the drug for discoid lupus. This diagnosis indicates that systemic lupus is not present, but the skin (being the largest organ in the body) appears to be affected.

Bottom line - I am looking for feedback from anyone else who has received this treatment. I am having amazing results - and can only recommend that folks try to get their DR to prescribe this Rx if you can. I have had Morg's for 7 looooooong years - so I am right there with the rest of you. I am shocked by the lack of response to my posting re: the drug (besides Carla). But, when I initially recommended garlic pills on this site (months ago now), - it took a while to "catch fire" with the group. Now - garlic is listed as one of the "treatment steps".

I am only trying to help .

cd3girls

I have been kicking this idea around for some time now, the fact that morgellons is in the blood and in the lymph. Therefore I have believed for quite some time that moragllons is very hard to treat with just the normal parasite formulas found in herbalism (though I do think some of those herbs are effective against some of stages of the morgellons parasites).

I am concerned however that although parasites such as malaria may be controlled for long periods of time with some anti-malarial drugs they are still able to hide for years in the liver, sometimes for 30--40 years (depending on type).

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...5AC0A96E958260

http://www.emedicinehealth.com/malaria/page2_em.htm

The lymph node connection in malaria has just recently been uncovered. Sort of up in the air research yet as to what that finding means exactly, but I am willing to bet that malaria can hide in the lymph nodes for years too, in some way which cannot yet be measured (maybe it forms a cocoon of some sort to escape detection). The article below does not see it that way, but still at least the research is showing that malaria at some stage hides in the lymph nodes.

http://www.hhmi.org/news/menard20060122.html

So my personal feeling is that a drug may push morgellons down into the body while quelling the active outbreak, yes. A total cure? Maybe, maybe not. I believe it may remain quiescent in the body for years in a hidden stage, waiting for old age to enter the picture, when the immune system is weak and then pow, malaria or morgellons may reappear though it may not exactly look like the original disease symptoms. As someone who has studied herbs for quite some time this is not something I would like to see happen to me. I would like to push out the infection not push it down into my body. Something Western medicine does not discuss very often is that drugs such as antibiotics only kill most of the disease organisms for which it is effective, not all of them. And that bit remaining can often jump up to bite one years later when the immune system is at a low ebb.

I speak from experience. My spouse had malaria as a child. It was treated with quinine (whether herbal or synthetic I do not know nor did he). When he was older and being treated with TCM herbs for heart problems one particular formula caused him to have malaria-like symptoms (wish I knew the formula base as it might be one to try with modifications for my symptoms to treat the morgellons parasite). He stopped the formula as it scared both him and the practitioner (who did not have the good sense to realize this was probably a good reaction as it was pushing out the old malaria). Well, that practitioner told me to keep the rest of the formula and cook it again a month later. The same exact reaction. One cup of tea led to fever and chills, and it happened at exactly the same time of day, five pm which in TCM is the kidney time of day (5-7pm) when the kidney is strongest in function. He had atrial fibrillation and so went back to Western drugs (the a fib was there before this tea was taken though). My feeling was that the a fib was caused by the malaria bug. I did at that time find a reference on the interenet by a doctor in South America who wrote that he believed malaria could be the trigger of some a fib. Of course trying to share that info with docs was like talking to the wall.

Just doing some quick research for this connection and I did find one interesting paper which is showing some interest in using a malarial Western drug for a fib. I believe it shows the promise this connection may have in the future for heart patients, though I hope a more gentle method is used as this had a bad outcome for some (probably because all research subjects were already weakened by the heavy duty HARMFUL drugs used for people with a fib).

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/409076_4

Still I have a healthy respect for this sort of parasite. I am not sure that herbs can push it out of the body entirely either. This is why I am very excited about the research being done in lipid science. If this type of treatment proves efffective I feel morgellons and malaria will be more likely destroyed entirely in the body, in the many forms in which it may be hiding, not just the overt active stage.

Anyway, your posting about your experiences is not being ignored I am sure. In my own case I plan to bring it up with my TCM practitioner and see if some anti-malarial herbs might be added my formulas. I have three I am aware of and I am sure my practitioner is as well and perhaps may know of more. Most are very cold herbs and so the formula would need to be modified for me as I run cold internally. So though being used in a different way from taking a Western anti-malarial drug you can see the information you shared is still helpful to me. I just have a different outlook in treatment options. We all have biases and ideas of what we want to accept and believe. What is good for one person may make someone else feel terrible. Even garlic may be too heating for some people internally when used in stronger quantities (it can be very drying to the lungs for one thing) or for prolonged periods of time.

I am delighted to hear you are feeling better.

Best wishes to you,

tcmgpt13

[Reneecoffey]

Thanks for all the information on prescriptions, I will have my dr fill one out for me next visit, in two months or sooner.
I also belong to morgellon's support network.
So, here's some information on a site you might be interested in, people are having good results. Bigislandskincare.com I will check it out also, I haven't gone on there yet. Also on the morgellons support network, there is a online magazine for morgellon suffers. Mojella. Check it also.
Sorry I haven't been on site for couple weeks, due to getting my granddaughters 8th birthday party together which was day before yesterday. Then now the granddaughter I have guardianship over has strep throat again. twice in 3 months, so at hospital yesterday, day after party. Been busy.
I am still getting results from the bolouke, and the apple cider vineagar and idilized salt baths,. Been 3 months, twice a day baths now. and still working. Salt, salt, salt. A true helper. I hope everyone is doing well, as well as we can be.
Renee

[csidegalNH]

Hi RC, did you get the name of that M... online mag right, cause "mojella" seems to be a shopping site?

Originally Posted by Reneecoffey

Thanks for all the information on prescriptions, I will have my dr fill one out for me next visit, in two months or sooner.
I also belong to morgellon's support network.
So, here's some information on a site you might be interested in, people are having good results. Bigislandskincare.com I will check it out also, I haven't gone on there yet. Also on the morgellons support network, there is a online magazine for morgellon suffers. Mojella. Check it also.
Sorry I haven't been on site for couple weeks, due to getting my granddaughters 8th birthday party together which was day before yesterday. Then now the granddaughter I have guardianship over has strep throat again. twice in 3 months, so at hospital yesterday, day after party. Been busy.
I am still getting results from the bolouke, and the apple cider vineagar and idilized salt baths,. Been 3 months, twice a day baths now. and still working. Salt, salt, salt. A true helper. I hope everyone is doing well, as well as we can be.
Renee

[sammy]

How would you convince a doctor too give you a pres for plaquenil tell them you hav e malaria. not sure how this would work. sammy

[sammy]

whom ever is saying mojella is a mag is incorrect this has nothing too do with morgellons but is a shopping site. sammy