Bryozoan Hypothesis

[Steve Frey]

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The Bryozoan Hypothesis

The Origin of Morgellons

Work in Progress

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A revised and updated posting of the truth to the morgellons disease

The Bryozoan Hypothesis presents an overwhelming amount of evidence and valid arguements to support the idea that one or more species of Bryozoa are now, and most likely have been for some time, parasitizing human beings which is responsible for resulting in symptoms consistent with those seen in morgellons sufferers.

This Hypothesis can explain all of the symptoms and characteristics associated with morgellons including:

• The fibers, and their flourescence, colors, and chemical composition
• The "callus" and thickening of the skin
• The biting and crawling sensations
• The orange flouresense under ultraviolet
• The association with certain bacterias
• The mycoplasma-like organisms
• The joint pain
• The blue fuzz balls
• The dermatitis
• The growth pattern of infection
• The various reports of an electrical component (conductivity, unusual occurances)
• The various reports of percieved communication ability
• The brown bodies
• And more

There are thousands of articles available on the internet that provide data which describes traits and\or characteristics of bryozoans. The sources of the morgellons data which I have used in citing correlations with the bryozoan data comes primarily from microscopic observation performed and documented by independent individuals who genuinely suffer from the morgellons disease. The most relevant morgellons data has been provided by Nancy(Chester of this site), Cliff Mickelson, myself, and other annonamous sources. Specifically recorded in observations are the zooids, the zooecium, the mat-like colony, the calcified colonial wall, the lophophore, the orifice, the operculum, and the tentacles. Many of the characteristics of these objects have been accurately described.

I will start by listing some bryozoan facts relative to morgellons which will be followed by personal observations and their correlations with bryozoans.

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Some Facts on Bryozoans

[font=times]Bryozoans are greatly diversified and occur in various forms such as soft gelatinous colonies, fenestrate and squamous colonies, arborescent, chitinous, or calcareous, colonies, single- or multi-layered crustose(crust-like) colonies, colonies boring into hard substrates and those burrowing into soft material, penetrating by chemical and mechanical means respectively. Very little study has been performed on those species that bore or burrow so there is little knowledge as to the effects on the host, the adaptations made by the bryozoan to exist in such an environment, or how commonly this occurs.

Fossil records indicate that the bryozoan is over 500 million years old and have only recently been getting major scientific study. It is estimated that there could be thousands of species yet undiscovered.

Bryozoans are sessile, colonial, microscopic animals. A colony consists of a great many individuals and may appear clear and gelatinous.

Bryozoans have no need of a blood system. Gaseous exchange occurs across the entire surface of the body.

Bryozoans do not have a defined respiratory or nerve system.

The individual animals within a colony are called zooids.

Each zooid secretes and lives inside a non-living house called a zooecium (pl-zooecia), in some species this house is a slimy mucus, while in others it is a chitinous, somewhat leathery cuticle.

These zooecia come in many different shapes including 3, 4, 5, and 6 sided, round and oval.

Each zooecium has a hole at the top called an orifice. In some species this orifice can be sealed shut by a sort of door called an operculum.

The walls of these zooecia are strengthened with a variety of substances depending on species; normally this is calcium carbonate(Calcite & Argonite), chitin or a mixture of both.

The zoocium is lined by a thin tissue layer, which can regenerate the individual zooid or parts of it if needed.

Each zooid has a ring of tentacles or lophophore, which the animal can extend and retract through the orifice, as circumstances require, a bit like a 'Jack-in-the-Box', often with great speed. The lophophore may be either extended flower-like during feeding, or collapsed and completely withdrawn into the interior of the colony

Each zooid is connected to the rest of the zooids by the funiculus, which transfers nutrients throughout the colony and is believed to allow communication throughout the colony. Touching some colonies that have vibraculae, causes all of them throughout the colony to bend and point toward the point of disturbance, how this occurs and is affected is poorly understood.

Bryozoan colonies often grow in mat-like formations sometimes many layers deep.

Every so often, the whole body of the zooid retracts to form a small ball, and these structures then degenerate to form a mass of non-living debris. This mass is often brownish and the mass of tissue remnants and debris is called a "brown body".

Some bryozoans are polymorphic with several different types of specialized types of individuals. The "Avicularlia" are highly modified to pinch animals that encroach on the colony surface. These pinchers look like small biting birds' heads, complete with beaks. Another type of modified individual is called a "Vibracula" which look like long straight pins or hairs, another individual called an "Ovicell" have their house structure modified to protect and contain developing embryos.

Bryozoans anchor themselves to the substrate in primarily two ways, cemented and rooted by means of rootlets that can be numerous and thin like hairs, or by Rhizooids which in some species are actually another life form like the Avicularia and the Vibracula.

Some bryozoans produce spicules, consistant with those of the glass sponges in that there comprised of silica. New discoveries have documented the ability of certain deepsea sponges to produce spicules that are comprised of the same substances as man made optical fibers used in the fiber optic industry. They actually perform better and are more flexible than man made fibers, capable of being tied in knots. Bryozoans also produce spines which experimental analysis involving inducible morphology has shown that this is a trait which can be manipulated through environmental variances.

Examples of associations between bryozoans and bacteria are abundant. In most cases, the roles of the bacteria in the lives of their host bryozoans are unknown. The symbiosis between the γ-proteobacterium “Candidatus Endobugula sertula” and the bryozoan Bugula neritina is an exception for which there is extensive evidence indicating that this bacteria is the source of the bryostatins, a family of polyketides which provide chemical defense for B. neritina larvae.

Some bryozoan colonies are toxic to fish, a poisonous substance apparently is released when colonies are damaged

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[size=15pt]Personal Microscopic Observations of Morgellons Lesions

I would like to acknowledge the significant contributions provided by Nancy(Chester) in her thread "Hanging out inside the lesion" and by Cliff Mickelson in his thread titled "What we know about the Fiber Disease". In a most colorful fashion, Nancy has provided very detailed descriptions of what she sees inside her lesions through microscopic observation and Cliffs work, also through microscopic observation, has lead the way in finding the cause of this disease. These descriptions correlate very well with descriptions and traits of some or all bryozoans. Below are exerpts from their recorded observations.

Excerpts from Nancy's observations and what she is describing

The full text of personal microscopic observations by Nancy can be found here:
http://www.morgellons-disease-resear...sg7695#msg7695
http://www.morgellons-disease-resear....php?board=3.0

In summary.......the bean lives in a house, usually with a 5 sided fence, with a yard which extends to the neighbors 5 sided fence/house/bean. Interestingly.....the beans can POP UP from its house(*) , and it can retract into its house(.). All the beans can do this simintaneously
At 200x they just look like a clear blob, maybe a speck of bright red inside.

[size=11pt]the Zooicium, the Lophophore, & Communication Ability


Under the microscope they have a thick membrane, are oblong, sometimes have a frey of fibers at the rooted end.

The Tentacles


And the whole unit has individual functions. It can form a rim in seconds, t can create ooze that covers the unit.

Strengthening of colonial wall with Calcium Carbonate


The ability of the particles of this mystery creation causes a lid to form so it can hide......in seconds. Its like super glue!

The Operculum


My observation is that every particle in the lesion has the agenda and ability to recreate itself instantly.

Ability to Regenerate


Lets say you go to the store and buy some peat planters, say 24 pots in a tray. Each pot gets one white "bean". Now stack each tray. Put 100 trays on top of each other stacked. This represents the layering of a deep lesion that has been there for 10 years. All the peat is connected and saturated into the skin, eans growing in individual pots.

Matt-like Colony formation many layers deep


i see that the dark brown wort is down in the lesion in random spots, some around a white "bean" parked in its own "garage" vertically, or the wort is lining a layer of the rim[/size].

Brown Bodies


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Excerpts from Cliff's observations and what he is describing

The full text of personal microscopic observations by Cliff Mickelson can be found here: =http://morgellonsgroup.proboards23.com/index.cgi?board=articles&action=display&thread=115 2243797:

The above described secretion is the cement from which the organism builds its callused fortress. It serves the creature well in both a defensive and offensive capacity. As the callus forms and hardens the adult nematomorph often integrates itself into it.

[size=11pt]Calcium Carbonate


the entire callus is further secured on the underside, (or skin side) not only by the super glue effect of the secretions of the creature, but also by dozens of protuberances that are somehow created as the callus forms and that appear to serve in the capacity of anchors.

Calcium Carbonate & anchoring rootlets, spicules, or rhizooids


It is from here that one of the methods of creeping expansion are accomplished by the aid of further secretion by the creature as it grows and moves outwards in a horizontal and semicircular manner.

Branching type colony formation


A great majority of these objects that are not completely integrated together in a common secretion with others of their kind will exhibit two horn-like projections on the outer or forward leading edge. These "horns" give the removed object a look resembling a flatworm or fluke with the antennae of a slug or snail. It is these extrusions or prior mentioned flaps that can be grasped by tweezers if one is quick enough. They will often slightly extend beyond the edge of the advancing, (growing) callus or lesion and will noticeably extend themselves even further when stimulated by outside pressure slightly behind their location. The pressure required to achieve this end is that which occurs when the callus is repeatedly and lightly stroked or rubbed with any foreign object. Should one attempt to seize this flap but then miss in the attempt, the extrusion will likely retract or curl back under the callus with impressive speed.

the Lophophore


In advanced infections these calluses are highly overlaid in a scalelike manner, overlapping one upon the other in great number.

Matt-like colony formation



Each of these creatures will posses a single needlelike appendage that is inserted into the body of the host.

the Stylet


The skin above where it is located is perforated with hundreds of tiny holes. Out of these holes the organism occasionally extrudes filii or podia that can be plucked with tweezers.

Typical characteristic of some bryozoans


This mucus like substance appears to be exactly like that produced by the body, except is will usually be full of colored fibers and also contain hundreds of the tiny black "pepperlike" specks that many have speculated are a form of "seed."

This particular form has a remarkable way of moving itself around. It will somehow throw a slender thread of mucus across the gap it wishes to bridge and then transfer itself in consecutive "blobs" to the new location by moving through the inside of the thread of mucus the way that water moves in a pipe. As an aside, one interesting phenomena that I am currently investigating is that when Polysul is applied to the fluke form, it appears to break apart into a number of inert pieces that resemble a sort of "tapioca." This is a consistant reaction and one that I am most curious to understand.

A characteristic usually associated with Porifera


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An organism collected from hair, further research ahas lead me to conclude the organism in this video is a mite, note, mites are known to be one of the organisms that can be "associated" with the bryozoan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83n3g06tfkU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83n3g06tfkU

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The Protocol of a Bryozoan

Reanalysis of the literature and comparison with Brachiopoda and Bryozoa allows the hypothesis that a protocoel is lacking in all Lophophorata, and that merely two unpaired coelomic cavities, one tentacle and one trunk coelom, can be assumed for the ground pattern of this taxon.

http://www.springerlink.com/index/C9UBMJPHGNJV2M5Y.pdf


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Bryozoan References

http://earthlife.net/inverts/bryozoa.html


Under Construction

[Steve Frey]

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The Bryozoan Hypothesis

The Origin of Morgellons

Work in Progress

_________________________________________________
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A revised and updated posting of the truth to the morgellons disease

The Bryozoan Hypothesis presents an overwhelming amount of evidence and valid arguements to support the idea that one or more species of Bryozoa are now, and most likely have been for some time, parasitizing human beings which is responsible for resulting in symptoms consistent with those seen in morgellons sufferers.

This Hypothesis can explain all of the symptoms and characteristics associated with morgellons including:

• The fibers, and their flourescence, colors, and chemical composition
• The "callus" and thickening of the skin
• The biting and crawling sensations
• The orange flouresense under ultraviolet
• The association with certain bacterias
• The mycoplasma-like organisms
• The joint pain
• The blue fuzz balls
• The dermatitis
• The growth pattern of infection
• The various reports of an electrical component (conductivity, unusual occurances)
• The various reports of percieved communication ability
• The brown bodies
• And more

There are thousands of articles available on the internet that provide data which describes traits and\or characteristics of bryozoans. The sources of the morgellons data which I have used in citing correlations with the bryozoan data comes primarily from microscopic observation performed and documented by independent individuals who genuinely suffer from the morgellons disease. The most relevant morgellons data has been provided by Nancy(Chester of this site), Cliff Mickelson, myself, and other annonamous sources. Specifically recorded in observations are the zooids, the zooecium, the mat-like colony, the calcified colonial wall, the lophophore, the orifice, the operculum, and the tentacles. Many of the characteristics of these objects have been accurately described.

I will start by listing some bryozoan facts relative to morgellons which will be followed by personal observations and their correlations with bryozoans.

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Some Facts on Bryozoans

[font=times]Bryozoans are greatly diversified and occur in various forms such as soft gelatinous colonies, fenestrate and squamous colonies, arborescent, chitinous, or calcareous, colonies, single- or multi-layered crustose(crust-like) colonies, colonies boring into hard substrates and those burrowing into soft material, penetrating by chemical and mechanical means respectively. Very little study has been performed on those species that bore or burrow so there is little knowledge as to the effects on the host, the adaptations made by the bryozoan to exist in such an environment, or how commonly this occurs.

Fossil records indicate that the bryozoan is over 500 million years old and have only recently been getting major scientific study. It is estimated that there could be thousands of species yet undiscovered.

Bryozoans are sessile, colonial, microscopic animals. A colony consists of a great many individuals and may appear clear and gelatinous.

Bryozoans have no need of a blood system. Gaseous exchange occurs across the entire surface of the body.

Bryozoans do not have a defined respiratory or nerve system.

The individual animals within a colony are called zooids.

Each zooid secretes and lives inside a non-living house called a zooecium (pl-zooecia), in some species this house is a slimy mucus, while in others it is a chitinous, somewhat leathery cuticle.

These zooecia come in many different shapes including 3, 4, 5, and 6 sided, round and oval.

Each zooecium has a hole at the top called an orifice. In some species this orifice can be sealed shut by a sort of door called an operculum.

The walls of these zooecia are strengthened with a variety of substances depending on species; normally this is calcium carbonate(Calcite & Argonite), chitin or a mixture of both.

The zoocium is lined by a thin tissue layer, which can regenerate the individual zooid or parts of it if needed.

Each zooid has a ring of tentacles or lophophore, which the animal can extend and retract through the orifice, as circumstances require, a bit like a 'Jack-in-the-Box', often with great speed. The lophophore may be either extended flower-like during feeding, or collapsed and completely withdrawn into the interior of the colony

Each zooid is connected to the rest of the zooids by the funiculus, which transfers nutrients throughout the colony and is believed to allow communication throughout the colony. Touching some colonies that have vibraculae, causes all of them throughout the colony to bend and point toward the point of disturbance, how this occurs and is affected is poorly understood.

Bryozoan colonies often grow in mat-like formations sometimes many layers deep.

Every so often, the whole body of the zooid retracts to form a small ball, and these structures then degenerate to form a mass of non-living debris. This mass is often brownish and the mass of tissue remnants and debris is called a "brown body".

Some bryozoans are polymorphic with several different types of specialized types of individuals. The "Avicularlia" are highly modified to pinch animals that encroach on the colony surface. These pinchers look like small biting birds' heads, complete with beaks. Another type of modified individual is called a "Vibracula" which look like long straight pins or hairs, another individual called an "Ovicell" have their house structure modified to protect and contain developing embryos.

Bryozoans anchor themselves to the substrate in primarily two ways, cemented and rooted by means of rootlets that can be numerous and thin like hairs, or by Rhizooids which in some species are actually another life form like the Avicularia and the Vibracula.

Some bryozoans produce spicules, consistant with those of the glass sponges in that there comprised of silica. New discoveries have documented the ability of certain deepsea sponges to produce spicules that are comprised of the same substances as man made optical fibers used in the fiber optic industry. They actually perform better and are more flexible than man made fibers, capable of being tied in knots. Bryozoans also produce spines which experimental analysis involving inducible morphology has shown that this is a trait which can be manipulated through environmental variances.

Examples of associations between bryozoans and bacteria are abundant. In most cases, the roles of the bacteria in the lives of their host bryozoans are unknown. The symbiosis between the γ-proteobacterium “Candidatus Endobugula sertula” and the bryozoan Bugula neritina is an exception for which there is extensive evidence indicating that this bacteria is the source of the bryostatins, a family of polyketides which provide chemical defense for B. neritina larvae.

Some bryozoan colonies are toxic to fish, a poisonous substance apparently is released when colonies are damaged

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[size=15pt]Personal Microscopic Observations of Morgellons Lesions

I would like to acknowledge the significant contributions provided by Nancy(Chester) in her thread "Hanging out inside the lesion" and by Cliff Mickelson in his thread titled "What we know about the Fiber Disease". In a most colorful fashion, Nancy has provided very detailed descriptions of what she sees inside her lesions through microscopic observation and Cliffs work, also through microscopic observation, has lead the way in finding the cause of this disease. These descriptions correlate very well with descriptions and traits of some or all bryozoans. Below are exerpts from their recorded observations.

Excerpts from Nancy's observations and what she is describing

The full text of personal microscopic observations by Nancy can be found here:
http://www.morgellons-disease-resear...sg7695#msg7695
http://www.morgellons-disease-resear....php?board=3.0

In summary.......the bean lives in a house, usually with a 5 sided fence, with a yard which extends to the neighbors 5 sided fence/house/bean. Interestingly.....the beans can POP UP from its house(*) , and it can retract into its house(.). All the beans can do this simintaneously
At 200x they just look like a clear blob, maybe a speck of bright red inside.

[size=11pt]the Zooicium, the Lophophore, & Communication Ability


Under the microscope they have a thick membrane, are oblong, sometimes have a frey of fibers at the rooted end.

The Tentacles


And the whole unit has individual functions. It can form a rim in seconds, t can create ooze that covers the unit.

Strengthening of colonial wall with Calcium Carbonate


The ability of the particles of this mystery creation causes a lid to form so it can hide......in seconds. Its like super glue!

The Operculum


My observation is that every particle in the lesion has the agenda and ability to recreate itself instantly.

Ability to Regenerate


Lets say you go to the store and buy some peat planters, say 24 pots in a tray. Each pot gets one white "bean". Now stack each tray. Put 100 trays on top of each other stacked. This represents the layering of a deep lesion that has been there for 10 years. All the peat is connected and saturated into the skin, eans growing in individual pots.

Matt-like Colony formation many layers deep


i see that the dark brown wort is down in the lesion in random spots, some around a white "bean" parked in its own "garage" vertically, or the wort is lining a layer of the rim[/size].

Brown Bodies


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Excerpts from Cliff's observations and what he is describing

The full text of personal microscopic observations by Cliff Mickelson can be found here: =http://morgellonsgroup.proboards23.com/index.cgi?board=articles&action=display&thread=115 2243797:

The above described secretion is the cement from which the organism builds its callused fortress. It serves the creature well in both a defensive and offensive capacity. As the callus forms and hardens the adult nematomorph often integrates itself into it.

[size=11pt]Calcium Carbonate


the entire callus is further secured on the underside, (or skin side) not only by the super glue effect of the secretions of the creature, but also by dozens of protuberances that are somehow created as the callus forms and that appear to serve in the capacity of anchors.

Calcium Carbonate & anchoring rootlets, spicules, or rhizooids


It is from here that one of the methods of creeping expansion are accomplished by the aid of further secretion by the creature as it grows and moves outwards in a horizontal and semicircular manner.

Branching type colony formation


A great majority of these objects that are not completely integrated together in a common secretion with others of their kind will exhibit two horn-like projections on the outer or forward leading edge. These "horns" give the removed object a look resembling a flatworm or fluke with the antennae of a slug or snail. It is these extrusions or prior mentioned flaps that can be grasped by tweezers if one is quick enough. They will often slightly extend beyond the edge of the advancing, (growing) callus or lesion and will noticeably extend themselves even further when stimulated by outside pressure slightly behind their location. The pressure required to achieve this end is that which occurs when the callus is repeatedly and lightly stroked or rubbed with any foreign object. Should one attempt to seize this flap but then miss in the attempt, the extrusion will likely retract or curl back under the callus with impressive speed.

the Lophophore


In advanced infections these calluses are highly overlaid in a scalelike manner, overlapping one upon the other in great number.

Matt-like colony formation



Each of these creatures will posses a single needlelike appendage that is inserted into the body of the host.

the Stylet


The skin above where it is located is perforated with hundreds of tiny holes. Out of these holes the organism occasionally extrudes filii or podia that can be plucked with tweezers.

Typical characteristic of some bryozoans


This mucus like substance appears to be exactly like that produced by the body, except is will usually be full of colored fibers and also contain hundreds of the tiny black "pepperlike" specks that many have speculated are a form of "seed."

This particular form has a remarkable way of moving itself around. It will somehow throw a slender thread of mucus across the gap it wishes to bridge and then transfer itself in consecutive "blobs" to the new location by moving through the inside of the thread of mucus the way that water moves in a pipe. As an aside, one interesting phenomena that I am currently investigating is that when Polysul is applied to the fluke form, it appears to break apart into a number of inert pieces that resemble a sort of "tapioca." This is a consistant reaction and one that I am most curious to understand.

A characteristic usually associated with Porifera


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An organism collected from hair, further research ahas lead me to conclude the organism in this video is a mite, note, mites are known to be one of the organisms that can be "associated" with the bryozoan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83n3g06tfkU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83n3g06tfkU

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The Protocol of a Bryozoan

Reanalysis of the literature and comparison with Brachiopoda and Bryozoa allows the hypothesis that a protocoel is lacking in all Lophophorata, and that merely two unpaired coelomic cavities, one tentacle and one trunk coelom, can be assumed for the ground pattern of this taxon.

http://www.springerlink.com/index/C9UBMJPHGNJV2M5Y.pdf


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Bryozoan References

http://earthlife.net/inverts/bryozoa.html


Under Construction

[tcmgpt13]

Safrey (aka Steve)

Yeah, a lot of what I have seen looks like what is being identified by you as bryozoa. And I did eat fish, so it becomes even more plausible this could be a part of the problem. Still, I saw other parasites which would not be explained by this, including some which flew off my head in the beginning. Some of which looked like flies. I feel that there is more than one parasite involved, at least for some folks. At the start I had something which looked like a large, wound up twig (at least three inches long) come out of my skin. Left a couple big holes (there were two). Then there was the day I saw a tadpole shaped critter swim by in the tub. Talk about hopping out! Ah hem. Anyway... I also had one critter shaped like a small jelly fish come out of my foot when I was using a foot detox machine. Then the ones like black pepper. I have found one description of a fish parasite which looks like black pepper. Here is one discussion. There are other references about a fresh fish version as well, but it had a very scary picture.

http://saltaquarium.about.com/cs/com...a/aa041701.htm

So I still feel that the parasite you describe could be the hardest to get rid of, but there may also be other parasites involved depending of course upon were it was contracted and how.

I also feel that that some parasite (could be the bryozoa in a small form I guess, don't know) gets in the lymph and blood systems in minute forms. I know this because I have used sunspot es to dig them out of lesions. When first started the little parasites come out in the blood and lymph (it looks like both at times). It hurts a lot to treat, and when treatment in this manner is first started it bleeds a lot. It takes sometimes 3-5 months before the lesion clears up. At the same time I do the sunspot es a couple times a day, I next apply curaderm cream to the whole thing when done digging. The edges will develop a brown hard critter which I believe lays the eggs or whatever this stuff is. The curaderm allows me to get off the more adult form(or so I believe) as treatment progresses (it will try to close back, but I don't let it until no more stuff comes out--which does take some months in my case). The adult version (I guess it is adult, don't know for sure) looks transluscent light tan with darker spots or maybe eggs glued in between. At the beginning this stuff was all over my lips and it would rise up and move to look like over two inch ragged edged butterfly wings. If pulled there would be a thread and another would emerge. Extremely frightening--glad I had a TCM practitioner. This practitioner also used herbs to clear out the spleen, liver and colon as much as possible. Anyway by using the sunspot es and the curaderm cream in conjuction with each other (the curaderm burns down into the lesion and also does not allow the main harder critter to close up the spot until almost healed--then I had to dig it out a couple times). I use tooth picks and q-tips to treat the area--the curaderm cream is sealed with a micropore strip to keep it on and to keep the area softened. I do this morning and evening when I have a spot. When cleaned and healed this stuff leaves no scarring, unlike some other cancer herbal salves which do scar. The other salves used in the beginning are stronger and work more quickly. Reveals a central worm with a hair. Still this other salve does scar. I did not do that by myself. I do not know what the salves are, but they worked to clear out areas more quickly--and greatly reduced my severe outbreak at the beginning. I was extremely ill. No repeat episodes on the skin areas treated with either treatment. As curaderm and the other herbal salves may be used for skin cancer (no prescription needed for curaderm, sunspot es just says it is for brown spots in skin caused by sun exposure) it could be possible that there is something cancer like in these parasites (I am no expert in this area) or else it is spreading something as a toxin it has or has viral components. I don't know anything for certain.

[tcmgpt13]

Safrey (aka Steve)

Yeah, a lot of what I have seen looks like what is being identified by you as bryozoa. And I did eat fish, so it becomes even more plausible this could be a part of the problem. Still, I saw other parasites which would not be explained by this, including some which flew off my head in the beginning. Some of which looked like flies. I feel that there is more than one parasite involved, at least for some folks. At the start I had something which looked like a large, wound up twig (at least three inches long) come out of my skin. Left a couple big holes (there were two). Then there was the day I saw a tadpole shaped critter swim by in the tub. Talk about hopping out! Ah hem. Anyway... I also had one critter shaped like a small jelly fish come out of my foot when I was using a foot detox machine. Then the ones like black pepper. I have found one description of a fish parasite which looks like black pepper. Here is one discussion. There are other references about a fresh fish version as well, but it had a very scary picture.

http://saltaquarium.about.com/cs/com...a/aa041701.htm

So I still feel that the parasite you describe could be the hardest to get rid of, but there may also be other parasites involved depending of course upon were it was contracted and how.

I also feel that that some parasite (could be the bryozoa in a small form I guess, don't know) gets in the lymph and blood systems in minute forms. I know this because I have used sunspot es to dig them out of lesions. When first started the little parasites come out in the blood and lymph (it looks like both at times). It hurts a lot to treat, and when treatment in this manner is first started it bleeds a lot. It takes sometimes 3-5 months before the lesion clears up. At the same time I do the sunspot es a couple times a day, I next apply curaderm cream to the whole thing when done digging. The edges will develop a brown hard critter which I believe lays the eggs or whatever this stuff is. The curaderm allows me to get off the more adult form(or so I believe) as treatment progresses (it will try to close back, but I don't let it until no more stuff comes out--which does take some months in my case). The adult version (I guess it is adult, don't know for sure) looks transluscent light tan with darker spots or maybe eggs glued in between. At the beginning this stuff was all over my lips and it would rise up and move to look like over two inch ragged edged butterfly wings. If pulled there would be a thread and another would emerge. Extremely frightening--glad I had a TCM practitioner. This practitioner also used herbs to clear out the spleen, liver and colon as much as possible. Anyway by using the sunspot es and the curaderm cream in conjuction with each other (the curaderm burns down into the lesion and also does not allow the main harder critter to close up the spot until almost healed--then I had to dig it out a couple times). I use tooth picks and q-tips to treat the area--the curaderm cream is sealed with a micropore strip to keep it on and to keep the area softened. I do this morning and evening when I have a spot. When cleaned and healed this stuff leaves no scarring, unlike some other cancer herbal salves which do scar. The other salves used in the beginning are stronger and work more quickly. Reveals a central worm with a hair. Still this other salve does scar. I did not do that by myself. I do not know what the salves are, but they worked to clear out areas more quickly--and greatly reduced my severe outbreak at the beginning. I was extremely ill. No repeat episodes on the skin areas treated with either treatment. As curaderm and the other herbal salves may be used for skin cancer (no prescription needed for curaderm, sunspot es just says it is for brown spots in skin caused by sun exposure) it could be possible that there is something cancer like in these parasites (I am no expert in this area) or else it is spreading something as a toxin it has or has viral components. I don't know anything for certain.

[maryok]

tcm, sorry if this is off-topic by could you tell us what a TCM practitioner is? I'm really curious. Thanks!

[maryok]

tcm, sorry if this is off-topic by could you tell us what a TCM practitioner is? I'm really curious. Thanks!

[tcmgpt13]

Hello, maryok,

IMHO it is not off topic to ask a question about a post's abbreviation. Sorry I forgot. Usually at least the first time I use an acronym I try to put it first in words, followed by the letter abbreviation. I apologize for this slip.

Anyway, TCM means traditional Chinese medicine. I have used about three practitioners of this art over time. I am impressed by the knowledge contained in this medical system which looks at individual symptoms. It does not use diagnosis names for treatment. Same disease different treatment, different disease same treatment is often their motto. A paradox I know.

tcmgpt13

[tcmgpt13]

Hello, maryok,

IMHO it is not off topic to ask a question about a post's abbreviation. Sorry I forgot. Usually at least the first time I use an acronym I try to put it first in words, followed by the letter abbreviation. I apologize for this slip.

Anyway, TCM means traditional Chinese medicine. I have used about three practitioners of this art over time. I am impressed by the knowledge contained in this medical system which looks at individual symptoms. It does not use diagnosis names for treatment. Same disease different treatment, different disease same treatment is often their motto. A paradox I know.

tcmgpt13

[suzzie38]

Safrey.
I'm patiently waiting for your next post..I see you're trying to help yourself, your family, and others in the process..with morgellons itself being such an illogical disease manifested by illogical symptoms then it makes sense the causative agent will likely follow suit and also be illogical/unknown. From the outside looking in, morgellons looks irrational (BUT IS REAL) and whether you're right or wrong I admire you for trying..The basic principals of learning is first keeping an open mind and start excluding..you eliminate the easiest and work your way to the most difficult..I have not had a chance to study Bryozoa but am interested..feel free to send me what information you have. In the interim I'm going to google it...suzzie38@gmail.com..thanks

[suzzie38]

Safrey.
I'm patiently waiting for your next post..I see you're trying to help yourself, your family, and others in the process..with morgellons itself being such an illogical disease manifested by illogical symptoms then it makes sense the causative agent will likely follow suit and also be illogical/unknown. From the outside looking in, morgellons looks irrational (BUT IS REAL) and whether you're right or wrong I admire you for trying..The basic principals of learning is first keeping an open mind and start excluding..you eliminate the easiest and work your way to the most difficult..I have not had a chance to study Bryozoa but am interested..feel free to send me what information you have. In the interim I'm going to google it...suzzie38@gmail.com..thanks