Hanging out inside the lesion

[chester]

.Miracle Aloe Foot Cream...ten minutes in a pile on the lesion
melts the
callus. Use a 10 x MAGNIFYING cosmetic MIRROR
2.Remove the callus and apply dry baking
soda
3.About 2 minutes later, take an angled tweezer and lift off the
dissolved contents, repeat 20 times or until soda is dry
4.Rinse off soda with water, distilled water for a final
rinse
5. Put silver inside lesion, cover with silver saturated
bandage
Repeat daily for weeks, months til the soda cannot find
anything in the lesion to react
to.

The lesion heals from underneath. It must be
cleaned out. It covers itself in minutes, especially when you are
removing the top layers. Apparently it is stacked in
layers.
This is how i imagine the design. I apologize
if it is incorrect, but after doing so much of this experiment,
this is how i visualize
it.
Lets say you go to the store and buy some peat
planters, say 24 pots in a tray. Each pot gets one white "bean". Now
stack each tray. Put 100 trays on top of each other stacked. This
represents the layering of a deep lesion that has been there for 10
years. All the peat is connected and saturated into the skin,beans
growing in individual pots. Somehow the entire unit is connected to
a blood source. And the whole unit has individual functions. It can
form a rim in seconds, it can create ooze that covers the
unit. I cannot get the entire lesion out in one session
with baking soda. Wish to God i could. The sides of it are soaked
into the facial skin, so i only deal with the inside of the lesion,
removing what the soda softens. Yet, the next day there is more to
remove, kind of like the movie...Ground Hog Day, been there done
that. Yet, progress is made. Often the stacks of
layers get folded over, or raised. Let say by soda session on day 5,
i find that the soda has leveled a side rim that was raised. On day
25, layer number 85, which was doubled over in the center gets
removed, thus alowing puckered skin to have more slack. On day 60,
following this imaginary example....layer number 90 has a fat bean
in one cup, larger than the rest. I wiggle it with tweezers, but it
is stuck solid. I stretch it with tweezers and it retracts, and
snaps back into the cup. It hurts to do anything with it. I put soda
on and let it do its job. By the next day....this larger bean is
sticking out more than the day before. The top of it is stretched
and limp. I wiggle it, but its hooked in deep and wont come out. I
put more soda on it. The next days session i try again. I wiggle it,
and it pops out. I see a deep hole in the magnifying mirror. The
hole looks empty, like an inverted cone. Suddenly blood fills the
entire lesion from that hole. It trickles over the edge of the
lesion. I catch the overflow with soda, the blood saturates the
soda. I remove it and put in more soda. I do this for an hour. Im
putting soda on other lesions, and keep checking on the trickle of
blood. This goes on for hour 2. Finally its done. What is it, and
what is done. I have no idea...im just "going with the flow". ONe
lesion i had on my chin tickled blood for 2 hours one session, and
the next day for 3 hours. Yeah...this is absolutely crazy, and maybe
a big mistake, and i am the fool, but ...alas, i commited to this
soda experiement. And this is what i have experienced with the
behavior of the inside of the lesion.
Finally the last layer of the lesion. I reached the bottom of one of
those today. I put a couple of beans under the microscope. At 200x
they just look like a clear blob, maybe a speck of bright red
inside. They lose the elongated shape quickly. The end that the
tweezers did not touch, often looks like it has a spray of fibers, a
tuft of something whitish clear. I cant tell the detail, would need
a more powerful scope. I put the bic lighter to one of them i was
holding in the tweezers. The tip balled up black, and the rest of it
turned orange. I have no idea what this is, or what that reaction
means.
One report i read, the person used an exacto knife and spent 3
months removing white things from a nickle size lesion and counted
white things. The total....about 495.
I have alot of lesions that have not come back, are not red, are not
scared, but have a slight indentation. Some are only a couple layers
deep and gone by the end of the week. This is true of the ones i got
off the temples, and over the neck vein. Those were about the size
of a quarter, but not deep. I just wore soda on them...they flared
up red around the area then were gone. The cheek ones take the
longest, facial that is, and the ones on either side of the corner
of my mouth took about two weeks and you cant even tell they were
there. One by my cheek bone took about a month and left a small
hole, but not discolored so not too noticable. The one on my stomach
was messy, reacting to the bandage, got about 50 cent size, but
wasnt very deep and done in a couple weeks. Two on the bra line
really hurt with soda on them and were hard to wear a bandage
on...but healed fast, like a week and half. ONe on my back, by
sholder blade is really hard to reach, so i put soda on it in the
shower, tape it off after the shower and put silver on it.It may
take longer, but i think it will finally come out. Its been there
forever, itchy one week, numb the next week.
I hate this, so slow to sit down to the task, but once began, i
forget everything else and my hands seem to know how to help. I
listen to a tv show, get up and do some chores, have a cookie . Im
at a good place in life right now to deal with this. I remember the
beginnings of these sores. I remember thinking the itchy spots had
gone away. In light of what i know now...they embedded. In light of
knowing about the soda...hopefully, this will not get past me if it
occurs again.
One more thing i have noticed, the shape of the lesion seems to be
rounded at one end, pointed at the other. I suspect the black fiber,
which i have found on skin, and on surfaces at times in a circle, or
semi circle, as tho its come together as a target shape. I have also
seen this black fiber on the bed sheets, or in the dust...a short
fiber that is pointed at both ends. Well...i dont know alot, and ive
never seen it move, so i guess the only thing i should say about it
is that it comes off the skin, or whatever, really well with sticky
tape.

[chester]

.Miracle Aloe Foot Cream...ten minutes in a pile on the lesion
melts the
callus. Use a 10 x MAGNIFYING cosmetic MIRROR
2.Remove the callus and apply dry baking
soda
3.About 2 minutes later, take an angled tweezer and lift off the
dissolved contents, repeat 20 times or until soda is dry
4.Rinse off soda with water, distilled water for a final
rinse
5. Put silver inside lesion, cover with silver saturated
bandage
Repeat daily for weeks, months til the soda cannot find
anything in the lesion to react
to.

The lesion heals from underneath. It must be
cleaned out. It covers itself in minutes, especially when you are
removing the top layers. Apparently it is stacked in
layers.
This is how i imagine the design. I apologize
if it is incorrect, but after doing so much of this experiment,
this is how i visualize
it.
Lets say you go to the store and buy some peat
planters, say 24 pots in a tray. Each pot gets one white "bean". Now
stack each tray. Put 100 trays on top of each other stacked. This
represents the layering of a deep lesion that has been there for 10
years. All the peat is connected and saturated into the skin,beans
growing in individual pots. Somehow the entire unit is connected to
a blood source. And the whole unit has individual functions. It can
form a rim in seconds, it can create ooze that covers the
unit. I cannot get the entire lesion out in one session
with baking soda. Wish to God i could. The sides of it are soaked
into the facial skin, so i only deal with the inside of the lesion,
removing what the soda softens. Yet, the next day there is more to
remove, kind of like the movie...Ground Hog Day, been there done
that. Yet, progress is made. Often the stacks of
layers get folded over, or raised. Let say by soda session on day 5,
i find that the soda has leveled a side rim that was raised. On day
25, layer number 85, which was doubled over in the center gets
removed, thus alowing puckered skin to have more slack. On day 60,
following this imaginary example....layer number 90 has a fat bean
in one cup, larger than the rest. I wiggle it with tweezers, but it
is stuck solid. I stretch it with tweezers and it retracts, and
snaps back into the cup. It hurts to do anything with it. I put soda
on and let it do its job. By the next day....this larger bean is
sticking out more than the day before. The top of it is stretched
and limp. I wiggle it, but its hooked in deep and wont come out. I
put more soda on it. The next days session i try again. I wiggle it,
and it pops out. I see a deep hole in the magnifying mirror. The
hole looks empty, like an inverted cone. Suddenly blood fills the
entire lesion from that hole. It trickles over the edge of the
lesion. I catch the overflow with soda, the blood saturates the
soda. I remove it and put in more soda. I do this for an hour. Im
putting soda on other lesions, and keep checking on the trickle of
blood. This goes on for hour 2. Finally its done. What is it, and
what is done. I have no idea...im just "going with the flow". ONe
lesion i had on my chin tickled blood for 2 hours one session, and
the next day for 3 hours. Yeah...this is absolutely crazy, and maybe
a big mistake, and i am the fool, but ...alas, i commited to this
soda experiement. And this is what i have experienced with the
behavior of the inside of the lesion.
Finally the last layer of the lesion. I reached the bottom of one of
those today. I put a couple of beans under the microscope. At 200x
they just look like a clear blob, maybe a speck of bright red
inside. They lose the elongated shape quickly. The end that the
tweezers did not touch, often looks like it has a spray of fibers, a
tuft of something whitish clear. I cant tell the detail, would need
a more powerful scope. I put the bic lighter to one of them i was
holding in the tweezers. The tip balled up black, and the rest of it
turned orange. I have no idea what this is, or what that reaction
means.
One report i read, the person used an exacto knife and spent 3
months removing white things from a nickle size lesion and counted
white things. The total....about 495.
I have alot of lesions that have not come back, are not red, are not
scared, but have a slight indentation. Some are only a couple layers
deep and gone by the end of the week. This is true of the ones i got
off the temples, and over the neck vein. Those were about the size
of a quarter, but not deep. I just wore soda on them...they flared
up red around the area then were gone. The cheek ones take the
longest, facial that is, and the ones on either side of the corner
of my mouth took about two weeks and you cant even tell they were
there. One by my cheek bone took about a month and left a small
hole, but not discolored so not too noticable. The one on my stomach
was messy, reacting to the bandage, got about 50 cent size, but
wasnt very deep and done in a couple weeks. Two on the bra line
really hurt with soda on them and were hard to wear a bandage
on...but healed fast, like a week and half. ONe on my back, by
sholder blade is really hard to reach, so i put soda on it in the
shower, tape it off after the shower and put silver on it.It may
take longer, but i think it will finally come out. Its been there
forever, itchy one week, numb the next week.
I hate this, so slow to sit down to the task, but once began, i
forget everything else and my hands seem to know how to help. I
listen to a tv show, get up and do some chores, have a cookie . Im
at a good place in life right now to deal with this. I remember the
beginnings of these sores. I remember thinking the itchy spots had
gone away. In light of what i know now...they embedded. In light of
knowing about the soda...hopefully, this will not get past me if it
occurs again.
One more thing i have noticed, the shape of the lesion seems to be
rounded at one end, pointed at the other. I suspect the black fiber,
which i have found on skin, and on surfaces at times in a circle, or
semi circle, as tho its come together as a target shape. I have also
seen this black fiber on the bed sheets, or in the dust...a short
fiber that is pointed at both ends. Well...i dont know alot, and ive
never seen it move, so i guess the only thing i should say about it
is that it comes off the skin, or whatever, really well with sticky
tape.

[pez1103]

I used to get lesions with white "rice-like" things inside. I removed several from one lesion. The derm gave me antibiotics, which I've been on now for 6 months. They haven't come back since.

[pez1103]

I used to get lesions with white "rice-like" things inside. I removed several from one lesion. The derm gave me antibiotics, which I've been on now for 6 months. They haven't come back since.

[chester]

I have added st johns wort to my soda sessions for the last week. I "wear the wort" on the lesions for several hours......then put the aloe on top of them to melt the wort. I wipe this off and start the soda. This greatly accelerates the debriding of the lesion. When i first looked at my face with a blacklight several years ago(listed under other reports i have made), i could see glowing orange in the pores mostly around my nose and chin. This was before i found out i had hidden lesions. Since trying out the st johns wort, i have looked at my face with the blacklight again. I see that the lesions look cleaned out, but encircling each one is an irregular ray of bright orange. This is different than seeing the orange glowing in each pore. Something in this proceedure is drawing the orange toward the lesions, and i believe , once in the lesion it is lifted out or absorbed by the soda. I have tried wiping the orange off with a tissue, with soap, and with silver on a q-tip, but it will not wipe off. Today i found this article written and posted (not by me).....in 2000! Perhaps the identity of this orange glowing stuff would help in unraveling this mystery of morgellons..........."ORANGE MARKER" QUESTION
AUGUST 17 2000

Over the course of several months, many individuals that participate within the message board attached to www.carnicom.com have become aware of the following unusual event. Under ultra-violet light (i.e., blacklight), there are bright flourescent orange spots on the face of the observer, and especially so in the nasal area. It is reported commonly that the orange spots are difficult, if not impossible to remove, through normal cleansing. The appearance of these bright orange spots, visible only under ultra-violet radiation, was confirmed by myself several months ago. More recently, one participant, by the name of "Moose", has recorded that the material can be extracted by a forced squeeze of the skin surrounding the orange spots. The extended curiosity of this particular researcher is appreciated, and I have been able to easily confirm his results. As he states, the flourescent material extends beneath the surface of the skin layer, and apparently the nasal oils are permeated at depth with the unusual color.

It has been suggested by many of these observers that this unnaturally bright flourescent orange color may be a biological marker of some sort. I am not aware of any historical record of bright flourescent orange spots on the facial area of the human species. As such, the question of a biological marker being used without an individual's knowledge presents itself as a reasonable claim to investigate.

Two micro-photographs of this extracted material will be presented on this page. The materials shown are oils of the nasal area removed as described above. Magnification of the images is at 60x. An image is also presented under the microscope under ultra-violet light. The ultra-violet light available for microscopy is insufficiently bright to reveal the bright orange color of the material, however, the flourescent nature of it can be seen. The bright orange color is easily visible to the naked eye under ultra-violet light. While it is understood that these micro-photographs may not be especially visually appealing, they are presented in the broader context of the goal aimed at the scientific explanation of the observations recorded.

It would be beneficial for anyone with adequate knowledge in the health professions to expain what is being recorded by numerous observers that have had the motivation to investigate this phenomenon. It would also be helpful for anyone with laboratory resources to identify the source of the bright orange color that is commonly being reported and observed. Any comments regarding this research question can be posted publicly on the message board attached to www.carnicom.com, or email can be sent to cecarnicom@hotmail.com.

The observations described and recorded can be investigated by naked eye observation from anyone with access to ultra-violet light (e.,g. a blacklight). Please also refer to the numerous posts on this subject by many interested parties on the message board attached to www.carnicom.com, especially under the Physical Samples Research forum topic.

The microphotographs referred to above now follow:



Extracted Oils from Nasal Region
Visible Light - 60x
Appears Bright Orange Under Ultra-Violet Light


Extracted Oils from Nasal Region
Ultra Violet Light - 60x
Luminance Sufficient Only to Demonstrate Flouresence
Appears Bright Orange To Naked Eye


Clifford E Carnicom
August 17 2000

[chester]

I have added st johns wort to my soda sessions for the last week. I "wear the wort" on the lesions for several hours......then put the aloe on top of them to melt the wort. I wipe this off and start the soda. This greatly accelerates the debriding of the lesion. When i first looked at my face with a blacklight several years ago(listed under other reports i have made), i could see glowing orange in the pores mostly around my nose and chin. This was before i found out i had hidden lesions. Since trying out the st johns wort, i have looked at my face with the blacklight again. I see that the lesions look cleaned out, but encircling each one is an irregular ray of bright orange. This is different than seeing the orange glowing in each pore. Something in this proceedure is drawing the orange toward the lesions, and i believe , once in the lesion it is lifted out or absorbed by the soda. I have tried wiping the orange off with a tissue, with soap, and with silver on a q-tip, but it will not wipe off. Today i found this article written and posted (not by me).....in 2000! Perhaps the identity of this orange glowing stuff would help in unraveling this mystery of morgellons..........."ORANGE MARKER" QUESTION
AUGUST 17 2000

Over the course of several months, many individuals that participate within the message board attached to www.carnicom.com have become aware of the following unusual event. Under ultra-violet light (i.e., blacklight), there are bright flourescent orange spots on the face of the observer, and especially so in the nasal area. It is reported commonly that the orange spots are difficult, if not impossible to remove, through normal cleansing. The appearance of these bright orange spots, visible only under ultra-violet radiation, was confirmed by myself several months ago. More recently, one participant, by the name of "Moose", has recorded that the material can be extracted by a forced squeeze of the skin surrounding the orange spots. The extended curiosity of this particular researcher is appreciated, and I have been able to easily confirm his results. As he states, the flourescent material extends beneath the surface of the skin layer, and apparently the nasal oils are permeated at depth with the unusual color.

It has been suggested by many of these observers that this unnaturally bright flourescent orange color may be a biological marker of some sort. I am not aware of any historical record of bright flourescent orange spots on the facial area of the human species. As such, the question of a biological marker being used without an individual's knowledge presents itself as a reasonable claim to investigate.

Two micro-photographs of this extracted material will be presented on this page. The materials shown are oils of the nasal area removed as described above. Magnification of the images is at 60x. An image is also presented under the microscope under ultra-violet light. The ultra-violet light available for microscopy is insufficiently bright to reveal the bright orange color of the material, however, the flourescent nature of it can be seen. The bright orange color is easily visible to the naked eye under ultra-violet light. While it is understood that these micro-photographs may not be especially visually appealing, they are presented in the broader context of the goal aimed at the scientific explanation of the observations recorded.

It would be beneficial for anyone with adequate knowledge in the health professions to expain what is being recorded by numerous observers that have had the motivation to investigate this phenomenon. It would also be helpful for anyone with laboratory resources to identify the source of the bright orange color that is commonly being reported and observed. Any comments regarding this research question can be posted publicly on the message board attached to www.carnicom.com, or email can be sent to cecarnicom@hotmail.com.

The observations described and recorded can be investigated by naked eye observation from anyone with access to ultra-violet light (e.,g. a blacklight). Please also refer to the numerous posts on this subject by many interested parties on the message board attached to www.carnicom.com, especially under the Physical Samples Research forum topic.

The microphotographs referred to above now follow:



Extracted Oils from Nasal Region
Visible Light - 60x
Appears Bright Orange Under Ultra-Violet Light


Extracted Oils from Nasal Region
Ultra Violet Light - 60x
Luminance Sufficient Only to Demonstrate Flouresence
Appears Bright Orange To Naked Eye


Clifford E Carnicom
August 17 2000

[hilly]

Has anyone tried Samento and Cumunda ??? I've just started on the Samento and have ordered Cumunda. I gather they work well together, but would be interested to hear anyone else's experiences. Thanks. Hilly

[hilly]

Has anyone tried Samento and Cumunda ??? I've just started on the Samento and have ordered Cumunda. I gather they work well together, but would be interested to hear anyone else's experiences. Thanks. Hilly

[chester]

Ground Zero of the morgellons lesion. I am at the flat bottom of the lesions on my face. I have stopped using st johns wort. I was sidetracked using make up for the wedding and that put me behind(description in blog). The soda sessions kept things moving, fizzing, erroding. I am at ground zero. How to describe the bottom of the lesion? Looking in the 10x magnifying mirror, i blot the just rinsed -off lesion. I am done with the soda, rinsed in sink water, sprayed with distilled water, sprayed with silver. The inside bottom looks clean , tidy and has a fleshy white texture. The texture is raised lines forming individual pockets. The texture reminds me of the texture in the new blue heavy duty paper towels in the grocery stores. Im using this to dry out the lesion before puttin on a bandage. The paper towel has ridges around depressed pockets. This is a pattern, not rows. Im trying to count the ridges that form the pocket. I think there are 5 ridges, or horizontal "logs"...equal in size that form the pocket. Is that a pentagon in math? It is hard to count the sides that form the pockets with the naked eye even in the 10x magnifying mirror. The network of these ridges covers the bottom of the lesion ,and is surrounded by a rim. The pockets, or depressed areas within each pentagon holds the "beans". Or, it may have a single clear hair. Or, it may hold solid goo. Or, if i pull out the bean, it is a cone shaped hole. Some beans are larger than others, some beans anchored in shallower than others. I remove the shallow beans, i remove the hairs. I put on silver bandages, tomorrow the soda session hopefully will fizz away whats left of ground zero. Horray!

[Brenda]

chester...........your descriptions of your actions make me laugh. i know its not really funny but the way you describe it sounds so familiar it makes my giggle box turn over
brenda