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[scabdraggr]

Asking me to put up pics is what I like to hear but make sure that you can look and bear them as they often upset some viewers but is necessary to make all of us well informed which is what the medical community fears from us.In just a bit as my morning was quite productive and difficult to get past.I have a huge library of pics to choose from so any requests will try to be met.

[tcmgpt13]

Sdgr, sometimes I get the impression you think every doctor out there has no idea about infections we may have (besides the mystery of M), yet the infections some of us have are not pseudo based infections. These are real viral and bacterial and fungal infections. The 'pseudo' remarks you make here to those who disagree with your world view of Morgellons are insulting. If you are so recovered why do you continue to have so many, many serious symptoms such as you mentioned here? Gradually over time and by treating with many, many different protocols, some of them involving anti-parasitic drugs I no longer have many of the symptoms you keep mentioning here. Perhaps what you believe might be Morgellons might prove to be only a pseudo parasite you think is there but isn't (and by saying that I am not disputing the possibility of a mystery parasite, just the fact as there is no fact). Let us just agree to disagree, okay? And leave it alone. We all have different opinions here.

Meanwhile I am sorry to hear you aren't feeling so well today.

quote=scabdraggr;88778]Many co infections may be psuedo based but they are real for the sufferer and yes they must be dealt with properly.What I'm after for now is to do what SKY once suggessted to me and that is to break one link in this chain of issues so as to weaken it's hold on us and allow us to defeat it one link at a time.This morning was hell for me as hrx was rough to deal with.Ear ringing,bloated,foggy brain,nausea,and more but out came the material that I cannot totally undewrstand how it got to that point with it's growth and amount.Chunks of hard jelly like cubes that have black fibers inside for one part and the orange paper rollups,skin like sections and many ugly but very interesting specimens and material.I'll post the pics as I have cleaned dried and photod them for the library of M related things that I have created.I feel much beter now but the ear ringing is still with me for a while.[/quote]

[annesco]

There are no absolutes except for the fact that we all have symptoms and are all suffering and searching.

This thing causes many reactions, including associated maladies as TC has stated. Or who's to say that some such past illness or infection weakened the immune system to open the door for this? ...vicious cycle, right?

Scab, you are so intent and focused right now, being at a point in your research which you perceive to be close to a breakthrough. You might keep in mind though, that, until that breakthrough arrives and there is long-term, concrete evidence of it's beneficial effect on this, many will be skeptical.

In the interim, we must all respect each other's opinions and experiences, as well as the variety of treatment paths that have exhibited any level of success in bringing relief.

Right now, it's all theoretical...

Originally Posted by tcmgpt13

Sdgr, sometimes I get the impression you think every doctor out there has no idea about infections we may have (besides the mystery of M), yet the infections some of us have are not pseudo based infections. These are real viral and bacterial and fungal infections. The 'pseudo' remarks you make here to those who disagree with your world view of Morgellons are insulting. If you are so recovered why do you continue to have so many, many serious symptoms such as you mentioned here? Gradually over time and by treating with many, many different protocols, some of them involving anti-parasitic drugs I no longer have many of the symptoms you keep mentioning here. Perhaps what you believe might be Morgellons might prove to be only a pseudo parasite you think is there but isn't (and by saying that I am not disputing the possibility of a mystery parasite, just the fact as there is no fact). Let us just agree to disagree, okay? And leave it alone. We all have different opinions here.

Meanwhile I am sorry to hear you aren't feeling so well today.

quote=scabdraggr;88778]Many co infections may be psuedo based but they are real for the sufferer and yes they must be dealt with properly.What I'm after for now is to do what SKY once suggessted to me and that is to break one link in this chain of issues so as to weaken it's hold on us and allow us to defeat it one link at a time.This morning was hell for me as hrx was rough to deal with.Ear ringing,bloated,foggy brain,nausea,and more but out came the material that I cannot totally undewrstand how it got to that point with it's growth and amount.Chunks of hard jelly like cubes that have black fibers inside for one part and the orange paper rollups,skin like sections and many ugly but very interesting specimens and material.I'll post the pics as I have cleaned dried and photod them for the library of M related things that I have created.I feel much beter now but the ear ringing is still with me for a while.

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[scabdraggr]

I think maybe that I presented the psuedo thing in a poor manner.The coinfections are real and need to be approached as such,yet I believe that this lf can duplicate many of these coinfections and present them as real as they are if one suffers from them.I simply imply that they have come from the M lf's ability to produce them without the inital pathogen being present.This doesn't mean that I'm insensitive to the obvious plight of others rather that I leave open the posibility that M may be totally responsible for their presence.I apologize if I presented myself poorly with my perceptions.No harm done and as we know quite often we disagree but don't allow it to hurt our relationships.Does this make better sense of my position? We can move on as yes there's much to discuss without being stuck on a controversial point.I certainly don't know when M will end for me but I still have some issues at times that steal moments of my life.I do more research with my time than I do properly treating myself and this is a little self defeating but sure does provide great samples for study and photos.I will be cured when all the facts are out but for now a little fumbling in the dark isn't all that bad.This mornings specimens were new and quite interesting to view.I'm already feeling much better but it was hell to go through for a coupla minutes.It's ok to tell me not to beat a dead horse and I also value your perceptions about me.I respect you and believe that you do me.It's all good!

[scabdraggr]

Quite well put Anne and yes I'm too deep in at times and allow it to hurt others perceptions of me.I lost a large part of my ego long ago and would love to get some of it back.I so badly wish for my appearance tobe like it once was as I can't seem to feel good enough about myself to ask a nice lady out to dinner or a movie.Loneliness seems to come with M's presence and it also seems to be compounded with the comprimised appearance of my skin.Like so many others,I wish for it to all be gone,yet parts of it seem to hang on forever.It's kinda like the last step to finish it off is right in front of me.The upcoming vacation with my daughter get's closer each day and it may be just the ticket to calm me down.I've made some great progress with my endeavours but at the expense of my personal life.What you said about a little relaxation and getting away from all this having the possibility of a lot clearing up with a calm mind is probably just what I need.As you ladies can tell,I don't give up on things that matter so much but what good does it do to hurt myself during the process.I haven't seen the ocean in 20 yrs or more and haven't been away from my studies in at least 4yrs so a vacation is definitely in order.Thanks ladies for reminding me to take care of myself and to not allow my dedication to hurt myself or my family.I can tell that you are all good friends and that is so important to me.I'll send a pic from the beach,maybe not as I might be having too much fun.Thanks for your concern.

[Diandie]

Hi. I'm new to the site. I recently diagnosed myself and a friend with this nightmare. I did a bath using the sun detergent and alfalfa and it was scary to see stuff in the water. I actually thought I was going to have a breakdown after reading about all this. I've been trying some things and I actually don't feel to bad now. I work and run an alternative doctors office.