Joni Mitchells song about Morgellons

[zara cybele]

Don't know if this is the right place to post this, but Joni Mitchell has Morgellons.
This is the link to a song she wrote about it. I give you "The Sire of Sorrow."
Lyrics below (as it's hard to make out all the words)
Blip.fm | TheSteadyDrifter | Listen to Joni Mitchell – The Sire Of Sorrow (Job's Sad Song))
Have tissues handy.

The Sire of Sorrow
Let me speak, let me spit out my bitterness-
Born of grief and nights without sleep and festering flesh
Do you have eyes?
Can you see like mankind sees?
Why have you soured and curdled me?
Oh you tireless watcher! What have I done to you?
That you make everything I dread and everything I fear come true?

Once I was blessed; I was awaited like the rain
Like eyes for the blind, like feet for the lame
Kings heard my words, and they sought out my company
But now the janitors of Shadowland flick their brooms at me
Oh you tireless watcher! What have I done to you?
that you make everything I dread and everything I fear come true?

([Antagonists:] Man is the sire of sorrow)
I've lost all taste for life
I'm all complaints
Tell me why do you starve the faithful?
Why do you crucify the saints?
And you let the wicked prosper
You let their children frisk like deer
And my loves are dead or dying, or they don't come near
([Antagonists:] We don't despise your chastening
God is correcting you)

Oh and look who comes to counsel my deep distress
Oh, these pompous physicians
What carelessness!
([Antagonists:] Oh all this ranting all this wind
Filling our ears with trash)
Breathtaking ignorance adding insult to injury!
They come blaming and shaming
([Antagonists:] Evil doer)
And shattering me
([Antagonists:] This vain man wishes to seem wise
A man born of asses)
Oh you tireless watcher! What have I done to you?
That you make everything I dread and everything I fear come true?

([Antagonists:] We don't despise your chastening)
Already on a bed of sighs and screams,
And still you torture me with visions
You give me terrifying dreams!
Better I was carried from the womb straight to the grave.
I see the diggers waiting, they're leaning on their spades.

([Antagonists:] Man is the sire of sorrow
Sure as the sparks ascend)
Where is hope while you're wondering what went wrong?
Why give me light and then this dark without a dawn?
([Antagonists:] Evil is sweet in your mouth
Hiding under your tongue)
Show your face!
([Antagonists:] What a long fall from grace)
Help me understand!
What is the reason for your heavy hand?
([Antagonists:] You're stumbling in shadows
You have no name now)
Was it the sins of my youth?
What have I done to you?
That you make everything I dread and everything I fear come true?
([Antagonists:] Oh your guilt must weigh so greatly)
Everything I dread and everything I fear come true
([Antagonists:] Man is the sire of sorrow)
Oh you make everything I dread and everything I fear come true

[kmar]

If the album was release in 1994, Joni must have wrote that song in or before 1994.

What do you think?

Has Joni suffered with "M" since 1994?

See the link below for the meaning of this particular song.

That Album with the song "The Sire of Sorrow" was released in 1994. She may have written the song even earlier.


Here is a link called "Song Meanings" uner the album picture.

At the end of the Lyrics, people are commenting on what
they think the song is about..

Nobody has mentioned Morgellons.

Perhaps we could/should comment?


Original Release Date: October 25, 1994

The album called: Turbulent Indigo



http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/3530822107858643072/


Here is the FIRST comment:

"So I know this song is supposed to be Job's argument with God. That aside I know. That was the meaning. Whenever I feel like I've been tossed a raw deal, I listen to this song. Joni puts not only her heart on her sleeve, but the hearts of everyone who hears her. This is an example of that work. "

[Baraka Obam]

The song puts doctors on the totem pole, right at the bottom, ha ha ha, LOL,

Dermatologists are the WORST

Go Joni go. sing it baby! sort of sounds like the ******* song

Oh and look who comes to counsel my deep distress
Oh, these pompous physicians
What carelessness!
([Antagonists:] Oh all this ranting all this wind
Filling our ears with trash)
Breathtaking ignorance adding insult to injury!
They come blaming and shaming
([Antagonists:] Evil doer)
And shattering me
([Antagonists:] This vain man wishes to seem wise
A man born of asses)


Jimmy buffet could have known about doctors also he must have seen a doctor for sure,


I have a great idea, before going to the doctors, record this on a CD and after they tell you your DOP, its your nerves, your harming yourself, he does not see anything wrong, WELL then hand him the CD, get a very serious look on your face then hand him the CD and say I think you may need to hear this, LOL, ha ha ha ha. I would love to do this, but alas I do not see doctors anymore. What would it be worth for the look on his/her face, priceless!!!! There is no reason to see that doctor again anyway! If he plays it while you sit there you could sing along.

YouTube - The ******* Song By Jimmy Buffett

[tcmgpt13]

Well, since you brought it up, I had read about the meaning of this song/album in a review earlier when this song was first mentioned by Carla in a post. I did not post the review I found nor what I was wondering at that time. My question was what if this song was dedicated to morgs to encourage more sales of an old song/album? Sorry to question. It may be sad to question this way, but then it is a sad ole world we live in lately. Here's a review of the album where the song Sire of Sorrow is mentioned. And Morgellons does not appear to have been what the song or album were about, at least according to this review which first appeared in 1994:

Turbulent Indigo : Joni Mitchell : Review : Rolling Stone

Joni Mitchell

Turbulent Indigo
RS: 4of 5 Stars Average User Rating:5of 5 Stars

2003

"Let me speak," sings Joni Mitchell on "The Sire of Sorrow (Job's Sad Song)," "let me spit out my bitterness." Few songwriters could write, let alone convincingly convey, such blunt, honest language. Mitchell's words are honed by a life dedicated to the notion that songs, like all great art, can illuminate deeper truths. Plenty has been written about the rockers of the '60s hitting their 50s, but Mitchell is virtually the only female pop star to pass that mark with her artistry undiminished. Turbulent Indigo is Mitchell's best album since the mid-'70s and a work that is highly musical, poetic and very, very sad.

The stark, precise language of Turbulent Indigo will draw comparisons to Blue (1971), but the songs and arrangements also recall the pop rock of Court and Spark (1974) and, to a lesser degree, the meditative jazzy style of Hejira (1976). The sound is spare, with songs anchored by the singer's piano ("Not to Blame") or guitar ("Borderline"). It's on guitar, however, that Mitchell's a true stylist, with a technique characterized by unorthodox tunings and a strum peppered with percussive fills.

The words make the poignant melody of "Not to Blame" sing – and sting. Consider the opening: "The story hit the news from coast to coast/They say you beat the girl you loved the most." It's chilling but ultimately irrelevant that Mitchell wrote this song of domestic violence before somebody slit the throat of Nicole Brown Simpson. "Six hundred thousand doctors are putting on rubber gloves," sings Mitchell. "And they're poking at the miseries made of love."

The spine-tingling "Sex Kills" profits from Mitchell's recent work with synthesized textures. The lyrics to Mitchell's most famous songs evoke a confessional voice, but here she rips horror from the headlines, blending individual crimes ("All these jack-offs at the office, the rapist in the pool") with more universal fears of AIDS and a deteriorating environment. "And the gas leaks, and the oil spills," she concludes. "And sex sells everything, and sex kills."

Turbulent Indigo was produced by Mitchell and Larry Klein, who also plays bass. The soprano sax of Wayne Shorter, a longtime collaborator, provides an emotional counterpoint to Mitchell's voice on five tracks, including the beguiling "Yvette in English," written with David Crosby. Seal sings with Mitchell on "How Do You Stop," a surprisingly compatible cover of a song originally cut by James Brown.

The words are brutally confidential on the closing "The Sire of Sorrow (Job's Sad Song)." Mitchell's background vocals underscore her lead voice – "Man is the sire of sorrow" – like a chorus recruited from "The Magdalene Laundries," her song about an Irish work convent for fallen women. "The Sire of Sorrow" ends with Mitchell drawing blood with three repeats of a line that cuts to the emotional bone – "You make everything I dread and everything I fear come true." Mitchell knows that love hurts – her own marriage to Klein fell apart around the time she was working on Turbulent Indigo – and is living proof that art endures.

Originally Posted by kmar

If the album was release in 1994, Joni must have wrote that song in or before 1994.

What do you think?

Has Joni suffered with "M" since 1994?

See the link below for the meaning of this particular song.

That Album with the song "The Sire of Sorrow" was released in 1994. She may have written the song even earlier.


Here is a link called "Song Meanings" uner the album picture.

At the end of the Lyrics, people are commenting on what
they think the song is about..

Nobody has mentioned Morgellons.

Perhaps we could/should comment?


Original Release Date: October 25, 1994

The album called: Turbulent Indigo



http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/3530822107858643072/


Here is the FIRST comment:

"So I know this song is supposed to be Job's argument with God. That aside I know. That was the meaning. Whenever I feel like I've been tossed a raw deal, I listen to this song. Joni puts not only her heart on her sleeve, but the hearts of everyone who hears her. This is an example of that work. "

[Doc Holliday]

Originally Posted by Baraka Obam

The song puts doctors on the totem pole, right at the bottom, ha ha ha, LOL,

Dermatologists are the WORST

Go Joni go. sing it baby! sort of sounds like the ******* song

Oh and look who comes to counsel my deep distress
Oh, these pompous physicians
What carelessness!
([Antagonists:] Oh all this ranting all this wind
Filling our ears with trash)
Breathtaking ignorance adding insult to injury!
They come blaming and shaming
([Antagonists:] Evil doer)
And shattering me
([Antagonists:] This vain man wishes to seem wise
A man born of asses)


Jimmy buffet could have known about doctors also he must have seen a doctor for sure,


I have a great idea, before going to the doctors, record this on a CD and after they tell you your DOP, its your nerves, your harming yourself, he does not see anything wrong, WELL then hand him the CD, get a very serious look on your face then hand him the CD and say I think you may need to hear this, LOL, ha ha ha ha. I would love to do this, but alas I do not see doctors anymore. What would it be worth for the look on his/her face, priceless!!!! There is no reason to see that doctor again anyway! If he plays it while you sit there you could sing along.


YouTube - The >>>******* Song By Jimmy Buffett

>>>>>LOL way funny Bam! I like it Doc

[posey]

I When I read these Lyrics there are 2 things that come to mind:


The Book of Job

The Book of Psalms.


Anyone else?

[Baraka Obam]

When I read Joni's rendition, it makes me kinda mad, because she is right, the doctors cause so many people pain, and there is no reason for it. When she said the doctors are (A man born of asses) Jimmy Buffets song just popped into my head. LOL, funny how that happens, a bit crude but right to the point.

The CD would be a nice touch, I can see the doctors all getting together now at the convention, This woman comes into my office, she was DOP and she gave me a CD................ME TOO, I got one also, anyone else get Jimmy Buffets song, that would at least get them talking about our plight.

[posey]

zara cybele, sorry I missed a part of your post; Job's Sad Song.

Had a bad day yesterday- I think it may be due to Candida die off. I hope so anyway. I can take the profound fatigue where my eyelids stay closed way too long during blinks and it is extremely hard to keep them open. I can also take going to the bathroom all day long, even though it is a pain. The excess passing of gas isn't too bad since it seems to be odorless. :-)

But if I am truly getting rid of the excess yeast in my body I am glad for these symptoms.

I am now taking doxycyclene (100 mg 1 x day) , azithromycin (250 mg to be taken 2 x day on Mon-Wen-Fri) and nystan (5000,000 U 2 x day).

I am also taking antigen drops for yeast, mold, and dust.

[kmar]

Does anyone know where Joni Mitchell's "dedication" of this particular song to "M" is located?

I have not read it anywhere in Joni's own words where she dedicated it to "M".


So if anyone has the source, .......

I'd sure enjoy reading what "Joni" has to say about this song and morgellons.

Thanks so much!

[zara cybele]

I got my info. from Mr. Common Sense's site, so can't help you with the dedication there. If it is true that she wrote this way back when and it is about Morgellons, then she's been sicker more than 10 years that I'd previously read.

It sure sounds like she's talking about Morgs. but maybe it was about AIDs and her writing in the voice of the person sick with HIV. However, the part of the pompous doctors sounds like the issue is related to morgellons.