does everyone hurt?

[hellalone]

Hey,

I know this probably has been talked about, but...

Do you guys (and gals) have pain in your bodies, most of the time? I often have back pain, headaches, main body pain (in various places). I am thinking that I have pretty bad pain, about 3/4 of the time.

So, do yall experience lots, or little pain. Is your pain always in the same spots. And what do you do for your pain? Just please tell me about yalls pain.

hellalone

[Kritters]

Hellalone,

Do you think your pain is arthritis? Does it hurt in your joints, in your muscles? where exactly or collectively does it hurt you?Have you tried the epsom salts bath yet?

Kritters

[jonsi]

Hi hellalone,

yes, I used to have pain in my joints all over my body. I was thinking about a wheel chair because I could barely stand up, go up/down stairs, open a jar of mayo, peanut butter...

What helped me was getting desensitized to things I was allergic to. www.tbmseminars.com or bioset. Toxins really feed the "M"s. Watch what you eat!

It's hard to find doctors that use these methods. Where do you live? Send a pm if you want.

In the white light,
~jonsi

[kelley]

Hi hellalone---
Yes--I have aching joints. I find that as I treat the morgellons and lyme with various things (herbs, homeopathic, other supplements) I sometimes get an increase in pain.

As near as I can understand, this may be the herxheimer effect---die-of organisms create toxic waste that can make you worse before you get better.

I recently started using a FAR infrared sauna and find that the day after, I have a dramatic increase in pain in my hip joints.

My doctor has told me to increase my detox remedies if I have pain (a few I'm taking: Milk Thistle, Sydetox, Pectasol) and if I get desperate, I take Alleve.

I do a similar desensitization to Jonsi's---something called NAET. It helped hugely with the pain I would when I put clothes on--a sharp, stinging pain.

Kelley

[dizzy dame]

Yes, I do! I have had to go to ER with pain in my back that was so severe I couldn't stand it anymore. I have the joint pain most of the time. The pain can be so severe and then it is gone just like it came.... suddenly! I think it is the morgs mostly, but it could be arthritic pain too. DD

[Jo]

Hi Hellalone,

Skeletal pain was an early symptom for me. Lower back ache and a stiff neck that clicked alot. Then mild discomfort and stiff elbows, shoulders, knees, hips.

I find taking the sulfur based supplements really good for driving the morgs away from joints. Also stretching and exercising all joints in the morning. The products i take are MSM and glucosamine sulphate.

Jo xxx

[hellalone]

Ya know Kritters,

I do have arthritis and have been going to a rheumatologist for years. But before I knew that my illness was morgellons/mycoplasma, my arthritis meds were keeping up with my pain. So, I assumed that the much more pain came from morgellons or the waterfall of symptoms from that (side effects).

Thanks for the insight, I really appreciate that,
hellalone

[hellalone]

Hi,

Kritts, I have not tried the epsom salts soak. Just need to clean out the bathtub!

Jonsi, I live southwest of Houston. I do have a dr. that "believes" and a dermatologist who "believes", also. But I think these wonderful doctors are really learning alot from treating me!
I have a "back/pain"doctor. Which is sort of not good, because they are the only drs. that can give me pain meds. There for: not enuf meds to cover my pains (they do not believe and do not even know what morgellons is!).
I have only dipped my little toe in the eating correctly part. I eat too much sugar and caffeine. I need to try this part of the healing.

Thanks guys,
Hellalone

[hellalone]

Kelly,

What kinds of meds, herbs, or homeopathic meds are best for pain in joints. Where do you get most of your herbs and homeopathic meds?
I think that there have been a few times when I might take an aleve. Not supposed to because of stomach trouble. But when it comes to a lot of pain, push comes to shove.

Dizzy, what does the ER do for you? Give you a shot? Or maybe some thing else? I am afraid my pain would be less or gone, as random as I am!

Jo, what are sulphur based meds? I think I need to set up a program of meds and supplements and the correct foods. Then stretching only, and see where that takes me?!

Thanks to yall,

hellalone

[jonsi]

What stopped my back pain was "icy-hot" and or blue emu oil (products) applied topically, to the skin.

Seriously, I called my mom one night to get a pain pill in trade for my daughter, she took care of my daughter and dropped off the pill...that's how bad it was.

I used to put ice packs on my back and then the pain would move to the front of my body. The pain was worse than labor pains.

Selenium supplements started the back pain, so be careful. I did a test and took a selenium capsule and within 24 hours the back pain came back.

Menthol and emu-oil relieved my back and abdominal pain. Check it out.

itwl,
~jonsi